Depression Part Two

I remember being endlessly entertained by the adventures of my toys. Some days they died repeated, violent deaths, other days they traveled to space or discussed my swim lessons and how I absolutely should be allowed in the deep end of the pool, especially since I was such a talented doggy-paddler.


I didn't understand why it was fun for me, it just was.


But as I grew older, it became harder and harder to access that expansive imaginary space that made my toys fun. I remember looking at them and feeling sort of frustrated and confused that things weren't the same.


I played out all the same story lines that had been fun before, but the meaning had disappeared. Horse's Big Space Adventure transformed into holding a plastic horse in the air, hoping it would somehow be enjoyable for me. Prehistoric Crazy-Bus Death Ride was just smashing a toy bus full of dinosaurs into the wall while feeling sort of bored and unfulfilled.  I could no longer connect to my toys in a way that allowed me to participate in the experience.


Depression feels almost exactly like that, except about everything.

At first, though, the invulnerability that accompanied the detachment was exhilarating. At least as exhilarating as something can be without involving real emotions.


The beginning of my depression had been nothing but feelings, so the emotional deadening that followed was a welcome relief.  I had always wanted to not give a fuck about anything. I viewed feelings as a weakness — annoying obstacles on my quest for total power over myself. And I finally didn't have to feel them anymore.

But my experiences slowly flattened and blended together until it became obvious that there's a huge difference between not giving a fuck and not being able to give a fuck. Cognitively, you might know that different things are happening to you, but they don't feel very different.


Which leads to horrible, soul-decaying boredom.



I tried to get out more, but most fun activities just left me existentially confused or frustrated with my inability to enjoy them.


Months oozed by, and I gradually came to accept that maybe enjoyment was not a thing I got to feel anymore. I didn't want anyone to know, though. I was still sort of uncomfortable about how bored and detached I felt around other people, and I was still holding out hope that the whole thing would spontaneously work itself out. As long as I could manage to not alienate anyone, everything might be okay!

However, I could no longer rely on genuine emotion to generate facial expressions, and when you have to spend every social interaction consciously manipulating your face into shapes that are only approximately the right ones, alienating people is inevitable.


Everyone noticed.


It's weird for people who still have feelings to be around depressed people. They try to help you have feelings again so things can go back to normal, and it's frustrating for them when that doesn't happen. From their perspective, it seems like there has got to be some untapped source of happiness within you that you've simply lost track of, and if you could just see how beautiful things are...


At first, I'd try to explain that it's not really negativity or sadness anymore, it's more just this detached, meaningless fog where you can't feel anything about anything — even the things you love, even fun things — and you're horribly bored and lonely, but since you've lost your ability to connect with any of the things that would normally make you feel less bored and lonely, you're stuck in the boring, lonely, meaningless void without anything to distract you from how boring, lonely, and meaningless it is.


But people want to help. So they try harder to make you feel hopeful and positive about the situation. You explain it again, hoping they'll try a less hope-centric approach, but re-explaining your total inability to experience joy inevitably sounds kind of negative; like maybe you WANT to be depressed. The positivity starts coming out in a spray — a giant, desperate happiness sprinkler pointed directly at your face. And it keeps going like that until you're having this weird argument where you're trying to convince the person that you are far too hopeless for hope just so they'll give up on their optimism crusade and let you go back to feeling bored and lonely by yourself.


And that's the most frustrating thing about depression. It isn't always something you can fight back against with hope. It isn't even something — it's nothing. And you can't combat nothing. You can't fill it up. You can't cover it. It's just there, pulling the meaning out of everything. That being the case, all the hopeful, proactive solutions start to sound completely insane in contrast to the scope of the problem.

It would be like having a bunch of dead fish, but no one around you will acknowledge that the fish are dead. Instead, they offer to help you look for the fish or try to help you figure out why they disappeared.


The problem might not even have a solution. But you aren't necessarily looking for solutions. You're maybe just looking for someone to say "sorry about how dead your fish are" or "wow, those are super dead. I still like you, though."


I started spending more time alone.


Perhaps it was because I lacked the emotional depth necessary to panic, or maybe my predicament didn't feel dramatic enough to make me suspicious, but I somehow managed to convince myself that everything was still under my control right up until I noticed myself wishing that nothing loved me so I wouldn't feel obligated to keep existing.


It's a strange moment when you realize that you don't want to be alive anymore. If I had feelings, I'm sure I would have felt surprised. I have spent the vast majority of my life actively attempting to survive. Ever since my most distant single-celled ancestor squiggled into existence, there has been an unbroken chain of things that wanted to stick around.


Yet there I was, casually wishing that I could stop existing in the same way you'd want to leave an empty room or mute an unbearably repetitive noise.


That wasn't the worst part, though. The worst part was deciding to keep going.


When I say that deciding to not kill myself was the worst part, I should clarify that I don't mean it in a retrospective sense. From where I am now, it seems like a solid enough decision. But at the time, it felt like I had been dragging myself through the most miserable, endless wasteland, and — far in the distance — I had seen the promising glimmer of a slightly less miserable wasteland. And for just a moment, I thought maybe I'd be able to stop and rest. But as soon as I arrived at the border of the less miserable wasteland, I found out that I'd have to turn around and walk back the other way.


Soon afterward, I discovered that there's no tactful or comfortable way to inform other people that you might be suicidal. And there's definitely no way to ask for help casually.


I didn't want it to be a big deal. However, it's an alarming subject. Trying to be nonchalant about it just makes it weird for everyone.


I was also extremely ill-prepared for the position of comforting people. The things that seemed reassuring at the time weren't necessarily comforting for others.


I had so very few feelings, and everyone else had so many, and it felt like they were having all of them in front of me at once. I didn't really know what to do, so I agreed to see a doctor so that everyone would stop having all of their feelings at me.


The next few weeks were a haze of talking to relentlessly hopeful people about my feelings that didn't exist so I could be prescribed medication that might help me have them again.


And every direction was bullshit for a really long time, especially up. The absurdity of working so hard to continue doing something you don't like can be overwhelming. And the longer it takes to feel different, the more it starts to seem like everything might actually be hopeless bullshit.


My feelings did start to return eventually. But not all of them came back, and they didn't arrive symmetrically.

I had not been able to care for a very long time, and when I finally started being able to care about things again, I HATED them. But hatred is technically a feeling, and my brain latched onto it like a child learning a new word.


Hating everything made all the positivity and hope feel even more unpalatable. The syrupy, over-simplified optimism started to feel almost offensive.


Thankfully, I rediscovered crying just before I got sick of hating things.  I call this emotion "crying" and not "sadness" because that's all it really was. Just crying for the sake of crying. My brain had partially learned how to be sad again, but it took the feeling out for a joy ride before it had learned how to use the brakes or steer.


At some point during this phase, I was crying on the kitchen floor for no reason. As was common practice during bouts of floor-crying, I was staring straight ahead at nothing in particular and feeling sort of weird about myself. Then, through the film of tears and nothingness, I spotted a tiny, shriveled piece of corn under the refrigerator.


I don't claim to know why this happened, but when I saw the piece of corn, something snapped. And then that thing twisted through a few permutations of logic that I don't understand, and produced the most confusing bout of uncontrollable, debilitating laughter that I have ever experienced.


I had absolutely no idea what was going on.


My brain had apparently been storing every unfelt scrap of happiness from the last nineteen months, and it had impulsively decided to unleash all of it at once in what would appear to be an act of vengeance.


That piece of corn is the funniest thing I have ever seen, and I cannot explain to anyone why it's funny. I don't even know why. If someone ever asks me "what was the exact moment where things started to feel slightly less shitty?" instead of telling a nice, heartwarming story about the support of the people who loved and believed in me, I'm going to have to tell them about the piece of corn. And then I'm going to have to try to explain that no, really, it was funny. Because, see, the way the corn was sitting on the floor... it was so alone... and it was just sitting there! And no matter how I explain it, I'll get the same, confused look. So maybe I'll try to show them the piece of corn - to see if they get it. They won't. Things will get even weirder.


Anyway, I wanted to end this on a hopeful, positive note, but, seeing as how my sense of hope and positivity is still shrouded in a thick layer of feeling like hope and positivity are bullshit, I'll just say this: Nobody can guarantee that it's going to be okay, but — and I don't know if this will be comforting to anyone else — the possibility exists that there's a piece of corn on a floor somewhere that will make you just as confused about why you are laughing as you have ever been about why you are depressed. And even if everything still seems like hopeless bullshit, maybe it's just pointless bullshit or weird bullshit or possibly not even bullshit.


I don't know. 

But when you're concerned that the miserable, boring wasteland in front of you might stretch all the way into forever, not knowing feels strangely hope-like. 






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Anonymous said...

Thank you for sharing. You've made me laugh and cry in ways I've never experienced before, and there are so many of us who are grateful that someone can explain it better than we can. <3

Odin said...

I know this shit so well. It's nice to see someone else use words and metaphors that resonate with me. My own thoughts don't always suffice.

KatieM said...

My Name is Katie. I've been depressed and sad since October when I was Diagnosed with MS because...there is no hope. This disease will eventually make me cripple and there is nothing I can do about it. This post gave me hope. Thank you. <3

Anonymous said...

Thank you so much for your description of depression. You nailed it. This is how I have felt since I finally had to retire for the last time. Well people cannot understand the absence of feelings or the struggle to try to find them again. I am so glad you are better. Some days will be worse but the crawl out of the pit is worth it. I think. Don't know yet. Still crawling. Thanks you for being here.

Zhoen said...

Corn = corny. I think it's funny.

I was diagnosed with depression because I cried, but I was really depressed. Anti-depressants didn't work, anti-anxiolitics did. Now I just drink beer moderately. I've been suicidal since childhood, imagining some little kid finding my body - and deciding I didn't want to do that to anyone, kept me from decisive action many times. Just wanted to stop. I'd be very sad and dismayed if you offed yourself, but I'd get it as well.

At 50, I managed to get enough training and insight to stop those thoughts. I always take a walk. I read Pema Chodron. It's not that it gets better, but with a lot of work, you get better at it.

Ashley said...

Thank you for being so open and brave in posting this.

Absinthe said...

I've never read something that describes depression so well and the frustration that comes with everyone trying to ask you to get over it and see hope when it's not that simple. I'm really glad you're back.

kchalk said...

Oh the corn. Oh how I understand the corn.

I've been through two bouts of depression that seem like they may be comparable in intensity to yours.

I hate how much I laughed at "can I get you some juice or something?"

After approx 6 years of my suicidal thoughts usually feeling more distracting than threatening, due to medication, they started to feel real again. Once again I found myself unable to move on from "just wanting it to be over" or "not wanting to do this anymore," but this time with more selfharm/cutting impulses mixed in (because I'm not that deep in not being able to care right now).

The point of this is that I eventually realized that I was scared to tell my support systems about how strong my suicidal thoughts were because of some certainty that to do so would be emotionally manipulative and attention seeking. I'd had the thoughts for years. I was used to ignoring them, so I became convinced that to tell me friends that we really shouldn't leave me alone near sharp things would be to demand that all their energy and consideration be diverted to me in a completely unfair way.

Someone told me some things and I am now less certain that I am unfairly stealing attention they don't want to give me, but it was really strong for a while.

I'm starting to wonder the point of this comment... Initially it was to warn you away from having similar feelings yourself, but now I think it's more that I'm using your sharing as an opportunity to get some of my pain out at the same time...

Well, the more useful moral is that I get you. The solidarity of that single piece of corn, standing alone, wrinkled, but unable to be anyway/where else is funny. Many of us are laughing with you.

Just keep swimming. There is/will be more corn. <3

Luxxxxxxxxx said...

This post made me have all the feels. I was so numb for so long, and this is exactly how it felt. The only reason I didn't kill myself was because the pain of dying seemed slightly more tedious and obnoxious than not dying. I mostly just lied around alternating between hate and nothing. You are so fucking beautiful and I am so glad that you exist.

Wandering the wasteland with you. <3

Unknown said...

I TOTALLY LOVE THE FISH!!!! And the shrivelled corn made me LAUGH OUTLOUD!!! I was right there on the floor with you and laughed and cried and laughed again. You are wonderful and you can put depression into words people can understand. I have been there and so many people think you can just snap out of it and be happy. I Love the drawings ...they are how I have felt so many times..

Anonymous said...

Bahahahaha. Silly corn.

Morgan Fraser said...

I get it, and I'm sorry you feel so badly. I'm glad you found a glimmer of hope in that piece of corn. There are a lot worse places to look than under a refrigerator. ;)

Anonymous said...

Yaaaay! So happy you're getting better!

Amanda

maidel said...

Spot on! And thank you, Allie. Are you worried now that you will be getting an avalanche of corn, a positive outpouring of corn, a cornucopia of corn? Corm.

Unknown said...

I'm glad you're back. I was someone who read your blog only when I remembered, but I've thought about you these last 18 months and worried and hoped for you. I'm so glad you're here.

Anonymous said...

You are completely brilliant and I've missed you!

Anonymous said...

The corn said to tell you welcome back.

Angie Romines said...

This feels kind of silly to admit, but this was actually really informative and helpful. I think mental health can be confusing for a lot of people (including myself) because everything's happening on the inside. I guess that can be true of some purely physical diseases, but there just seems to be more mystery and hush-hush with mental health. As someone who's never experienced depression, I feel like I can definitely be more empathetic and understanding based on this post. Don't want to be an accidental asshole!

Heloisa said...

You NAILED IT.
It's so weird when you start to feel things again because it's so random and people ask why you're crying/laughing and you don't know why.
I remember one time where I saw people waiting in line at the bank and I had the urge to cry because I felt so sorry for them...

Sero said...

Wow.. a lot of this I can relate to. You are amazing with your words and as a person.

I think the part that really hits home with me- is the part about suicide.. trying to talk about it. Even if it's a comic, the face that your mom makes.. it very much reminds me of the exact look I got from someone who I finally confided in. And from other people when I made an attempt.

For what it's worth coming from a complete stranger, thanks. For choosing to keep going. ♥

Kelly said...

This and part one are so spot on. It's so hard to try to articulate the feeling of nothingness to people and I'm so tired of feeling nothing, even thought I've been on various antidepressants for 8 years.

I completely feel the "not wanting you kill yourself, but not wanting to be alive" feeling. When you feel nothing about anything, the idea of even expending that effort sounds exhausting and drawn out. I just want to fade away like I was never here in the first place.

I used to enjoy doing so many things, but now, even though I'm surrounded, I feel overwhelmed by choice and bored.

That's how nothing I feel - I got a prickle of tears but I think I'm still stuck in the beginning stages of the "i hate everything" phase. I really hope I have my shriveled corn moment soon.

Seeing stuff like this helps though.

Vanspoor said...

Allie, you're in inspiration to us all--especially me. It's because of you that I started drawing comics, too. Still have yet to seriously blog with them, though.

http://24.media.tumblr.com/9b54f053d6ee2b285e05455b50193a23/tumblr_mk2en3Vn2w1qi8b42o1_500.png

Anonymous said...

I think what a lot of people fail to realize is that depression isn't a product of something. If you're depressed, it doesn't mean something "happened", or that a chain of events led up to you feeling this way. When people ask "what happened? What in your life is so terrible that you feel the need to act this way?" The act of judging someone's depression is selfish, and I don't feel like I should have to justify why this illness has chosen me.

Nothing *happened*. It wasn't one specific thing that led me to feel this way. Your life doesn't have to be terrible, or sucky or miserable...it's just completely out of your control. The idea that someone is asking you to justify why this is happening to you is so not the point, and not how depression works.

Thank you for putting in to words what so many people struggle with and have never been able to express.

Anonymous said...

I was happy to see you had a couple new posts up, but I'm excited that you are feeling better. Thanks for sharing! You bring brightness to the dark internet.

Unknown said...

Nothing about the piece of corn is funny, but the way you tell that story, this is the funniest story ever! OMG, I love you, oh wait, no... go away, don't ever talk to me, you would ruin my life! I just want a hug maybe.

The Dragon Lady said...

For 11 years did not think words could explain my malaise yet here you are telling my story. Glad the murk did not get you either.

MarieC said...

Brilliant. Absolutely spot on. I've shared with my friends who have experienced it and still struggle, as well as my friends who might not understand when their suggestions don't help. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

HeidiMCF said...

Thanks for posting this! I burst into tears reading it. It speaks so much about what I have been going through with chronic pain and depression for the past two years. For me it wasn't a piece of corn, but have a breathing treatment for bronchitis that left me unable to breathe. All I could do was laugh hysterically and something snapped, which had left so long ago. You are right, maybe everything isn't hopeless bullshit.

Anonymous said...

You word everything so well. Thank you for being you, and I'm sorry your fish are dead.

Anonymous said...

hey at least you can draw!! As for people helping -- I can't tell anybody except my shrink -- the rest is acting and avoiding -- but the rest of your story is the same as my story.
No corn, but a dog to take care of keeps me from ultimate oblivion

ReaderOfBooks said...

Hi Ally!

This was totally my life from the time I was seven until a couple of years ago, so for literally 20 years I went through this and either because of my age or really good drugs, my hormones finally evened out, although I still have bouts every now and again. Because I was so young when it started, though, I thought it was normal to hate myself, to cry for no reason, not want to get out of bed, everything you've written. I won't say if it will get better or not, because everyone is different, but I hope things work out for you. Good luck!

Anonymous said...

This is not depression at all.

You're feeling normal, perfectly normal.

There are hardly any people that feel happy and positive all the time, and those who do feel such a way are not considered normal, in-fact they're pretty fucking nuts, I refer you to the Grizzly Man.

Depression is the exact opposite of these kings of rare people; it is about feeling absolute sadness and anguish, hatred towards oneself and everything. The issue with this feeling is not really knowing why they feel such a way, and most times it is because of a biological reason or childhood trauma.

this is not depression, this should be called Normal Part Two. Everyone feels this way, and this is can be obviously seen by taking a look at the comment section where everyone commenting is exclaiming, in one way or another: "I FEEL EXACTLY THE SAME!".

Anonymous said...

This is not depression at all.

You're feeling normal, perfectly normal.

There are hardly any people that feel happy and positive all the time, and those who do feel such a way are not considered normal, in-fact they're pretty fucking nuts, I refer you to the Grizzly Man.

Depression is the exact opposite of these kings of rare people; it is about feeling absolute sadness and anguish, hatred towards oneself and everything. The issue with this feeling is not really knowing why they feel such a way, and most times it is because of a biological reason or childhood trauma.

this is not depression, this should be called Normal Part Two. Everyone feels this way, and this is can be obviously seen by taking a look at the comment section where everyone commenting is exclaiming, in one way or another: "I FEEL EXACTLY THE SAME!".

Colleen said...

Just, thank you. Your depression is like my depression and you are able to articulate it so beautifully that it feels validating of my own experience. Thank you.

Heather said...

I have worried about you, despite not actually knowing you. I've been in a milder version of the feel nothing place for a while and am finally coming out of it. I'm glad you're coming back too.

Kathryn Weller said...

Thank you for you! We missed you!!

Colleen said...

Just, thank you. Your depression is like my depression and you are able to articulate it so beautifully that it feels validating of my own experience. Thank you.

Che2re2le said...

Hey Allie.
So much feels for this. I'll be honest - it's not over - took me a year to stop thinking that bus-hugging was a new, fun, fatal sport to take up - but the way you're dealing with this will make things speed up so much.

I tried being super cereal about my brain taking leave of emotions. It didn't work. Eventually I went home one day and my house was tidy, and my brain, (possibly related to your mischievous matter) decided that the room was still messy because it had a me in it and you know what would be easy... if the me just disappeared.

It sucked. Massively. For about six months I awkwardly tried to explain to people that, you know what would be awesome? If I just ceased to exist in any tangible way. I wondered that if I thought about infinite paradoxes, would I spontaneously combust because I simply didn't give enough shits to go out a different way. They were messy. I'd ruin the carpets. Meh, if I did go, I'd probably just come back as a ghost and get stucked bored and emotionless FOR EVORH!!!

And then the cry-face happened. I'd just cry because it was the only thing I knew. Hey - something good happened... cry... hey, you're fed up - cry, hey... rainbows - cry... hey... CRY.

I finally hit the angries about 4 months ago and I was very much in the mind of SMASH ALL THE THINGS!!!

Then suddenly, I was sleeping again. And I started eating properly. And it wasn't corn that got me... it was my bearded dragon. There was a locust sat on her back and I don't know why but it just cracked me up. There was probably some odd parallel on a deeper level, but at the time, it was the funniest thing I'd ever seen.

It took me... maybe 2 and a half years to get here, but I did it. And not because friends told me I could (which they did, which was lovely), but because I just got bored of being so grey all the time.

It's good to see you back. Keep plodding on. You won't spot the light till it hits you in the eyes and it'll be blinding at first, and bloody terrifying, but it's sunny out here and there's cake.

I'll save you a slice.

Anonymous said...

My heart lept when I saw a new Hyperbole and a Half, "she's baackk..." You are a helper on so many levels, but nailing it like this is the best one. Realizing that others know what its like is such a relief. And your humour and hilarious drawings are a piece of corn for many of us who read your awesome stuff. Thank you!

Sarah said...

You are a FUCKING HERO.
I was genuinely afraid you were dead. I'm really glad you're not (I'm probably more glad than you are, and that's totally okay on your end- maybe a little weird on mine).

I've never found anything that explains how I feel so well as your work. You are extremely talented as an artist, and even if you don't believe me, you are important. Your work matters and is making a tangible difference in the world, and even if that sounds totally ridiculous, it's the truth.

I'm going to go take my handfuls of dead fish and cry on the floor, now, and hope I find my own piece of corn somewhere. I don't think I'm there yet this time around, but this came pretty damn close.

Treefrog said...

I am crying. I'm so glad you are back. It scares me a little how much I was worrying about you since we've never met. And no, I'm not a stalker, just another human seeing important parts of myself and those I love in the mirror of you.
Thank you.
And welcome back.
And I totally see a market for tiny bronzed kernel-of-dry-corn lapel pins as a kind of "I'm here" affirmation for those of us who have or have struggled with depression.
That might be something that isn't total bullshit right there.

Anonymous said...

I LARVE YA
I'm so happy you're back, and especially with this comics. I mean, it's exactly how I was (and maybe a little still am) But I'm taking pills and it's a little better.
Glad to hear it ended for you like this, I mean, not keeping being all nothing and alone.
<3

Diane said...

Allie!! You're back. :) The Internet is hopeless bullshit without you in it.

You crawled into my brain and wrote about my life in this post. I just want to +1 every single word in it. Especially corn. +1 to finding my shriveled up hilarious kernel of corn.

I've missed you. Write soon, write often. xo

Molly Tucker said...

I have more words to say, evidently. I just want to tell you that I know so, so well that feeling of disappointment and anger that comes along with realizing suicide is no longer an option. I have attempted suicide but at some point that stopped being a Thing I Could Do, and it pissed me off and made me angry and, strangely, more hopeless than I had been before. Like, suicide had in it this idea that the hell of being alive could end, so when I took suicide off the table I had to face that there were just going to be a number of soul-sucking empty years of suffering before I could finally rest.
I have never talked about this. I had no idea anyone else, anywhere, felt the way I did. Thank you. So much.

Anonymous said...

Oh, it just hit the spot. Especially about the part where you have to tell people. And the fish.

Ian said...

Can't say I've ever quite gotten as bad (Majoring in engineering gives you reasons to feel like shit), but I've definitely been there. And I couldn't help but laugh at the dead fish metaphor, because aside from 1 person (Thankfully a therapist), everyone around me was convinced that I just needed to be happy. Like magic.

Welcome back! Glad to see you're at least going somewhere, and I hope that "going somewhere" gives you a good break from the monotony so you can figure out where to go.

Also, I totally cracked up at the piece of corn. Before you tried to explain how it was funny. It's just one of those things.

Clandestine Road said...

This is so painfully accurate to all of our experiences, it seems. Allie, I am so glad you are posting again. We all love you, feelingless, corn happy, all of it.

Angela

Meldon / STD said...

Can you please make a large poster of the "maybe everything isn't hopeless bullshit" drawing? I want you to take my money, and I want that on my wall.

Thank you for this post.

L_Mac said...

Depression is a disease. It is a chemical imbalance in the brain. The fact that it affects feelings and emotions makes people *think* they're helping you by simply saying "cheer up!" But it doesn't work that way, unfortunately.

You wouldn't just offer "hope" to fix someone who has a heart condition or diabetes or any other chronic problem, would you? Of course not! You'd tell them to see a doctor and get the appropriate medicine to help.

It's the same thing with depression. Prescription medication is what helps it. All the "hope" and "good feelings" in the world won't cure diabetes or heart disease -- why do people seem to think it should cure depression?

It takes time to find the right medication for your specific depression, sometimes. Keep looking, and you'll find it eventually. Once you do, the disease will be cured (or at least managed) and you'll feel a thousand times better. Then you can resume your normal life. I've been through all of this, so I know for a fact it can be done. Sucks while you're going through it, but once you find the right treatment, you'll be better.

hierophanta said...

I think the corn made you laugh because no one cares about the corn. I'm happy you are writing again Allie.

Unknown said...

I'm super stoked to see that you're back. For whatever it's worth, we're pulling for you. I teared up a few times reading this. Thank you for sharing.

May said...

I'm overwhelmingly glad that you have re-emerged. I'm also really grateful, because your post is the best explanation of depression that I have ever seen. Thank you.

Unknown said...

This may be in the 400 previous comments, but....you are the piece of corn. That's why it was funny.

Unknown said...

Oh my God. This is the most amazing description ever of the whole circle. My sweetcorn moment was a conversation about a little place called Opava near Prague.

David said...

Thank you.

Thank you for the goldfish metaphor. I think I will be using that for the rest of my life.

Anonymous said...

Thank you for doing this. You're going to help a lot of people, possibly including me.

Anonymous said...

my mom has suffered with depression for a great portion of her life and it really is hard to understand if you're not going through it yourself. thanks for making it more comprehensible and by the way, I totally get the corn thing. it's so good to see a post from you again and who knew a post about depression could bring so much joy. keep up the good work
xxx

Verick said...

It's incredible how accurate this is to my own experience - massively psychotic and inexplicable laughter included.

I still struggle with the crushing joy-deafness myself, but I can say that my perspective on what the future holds definitely changed from my most depressed to my moderately depressed/kinda cheerfulish phases.

It's wonderful to see you back. While your fish may be dead, it's good to hear you have the tiny Snail of Laughter hanging around your tank.

Take care! And thank you for bringing us some laughter as well.

Carly Maria said...

Hi Ally, I know what this feels like. I think you hit the head on the nail... I feel like forwarding this to every person who told me to 'just cheer up' and 'think happy thoughts'. I remember reading the first half of your depression entry and just wanting to hug you and be bleh with you. People who've never felt this level of nothingness don't have a clue- not even a smidge of a clue as to the depths of murk you have to swim through to go through the actions of being happy. I felt like a liar to everyone I ever smiled to or frowned at. I'm not happy but I am okay- which is fine for now... I hope that you have found your okay and hopefully, that you'll find your happy- even if it is just a tiny shriveled up piece of corn under your fridge. *hugshugshugs*

Anonymous said...

Love this. As with others, you put into words what i've "felt" but never knew how to explain. I snort laughed at the "I don't want to KILL myself, I just want to be dead somehow" intended to be comforting...yep. In laughing, My b.f. wanted to know what was funny...I knew he wouldn't get it, but I explained it to him and his response was "oh" which made me laugh more. :) If you haven't experienced it, you can't find the humor in it (and yes, I'm on the upside and have my have humor back and I'll take it. I love that I have humor back, it makes me feel more "enlightened" than others in that I find shit funny that they can't understand. :) Glad you're back!

Anonymous said...

This is awesome. My son deals with deppresion and sometimes I get so mad, he is talented and funny and seriously lovable. He is popular and has a ton of friends. But something says "Whatever I am not worth it and the world would be better off without me"

You put all of that into a way that someone who has not dealt with or had a close relationship with someone who has that makes sense.

I wish you nothing but success.

hh said...

I am very sorry your fish died, and glad you're getting some new ones.

Unknown said...

Thank you for putting in to words what I have experienced but haven't been able to truly explain.

Unknown said...

Im happy to see you back but this actually made me sad. I too have felt this way and it turned out to be a tumor. Keep strong Allie

Anonymous said...

Yes Yes Yes. You nailed it. This is what I needed to read right now. You are not alone and you described the feelings of so many other people. Thank you for finding the strength to write this and keep trudging through the muck.

Anonymous said...

One interesting thing here is how different people experience depression differently.

I mean, for me, the "I don't feel emotions about anything" state was something I had to painfully claw my way to by years of mental discipline, because it was better than the "everything hurts, all the time, and I have been clinging by my teeth to not killing myself for the past ten years."

But... I guess this is one of those things where the guy who's on fire looks over at the guy in the pool of acid, and thinks about how nice and soothing that seems.

Lacey said...

Thank you so much for sharing this. It captures everything about the experience in a way that I was never able to put into words for those who asked me. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Dave Fry said...

Thank you for writing this.

Barbara said...

Yay!!!! You are back. I understand the depression spiral and hope you continue to find random pieces of corn in your life. You were missed.

Atia said...

This post was beautiful. I'm really glad you explained how it feels to go through depression, because I always felt bad when I couldn't react the right way to loved ones with depression.

Welcome back ♥ You make the Internet a better place :)

Mellie said...

Amazing. Thank you. I really needed to read this today.

Unknown said...

I have no idea how depression (doesn't) feel. However, your description of it puts it into perspective.

I'm very sorry you felt like everything was hopeless bullshit, and am glad to see/know, even though you are a complete stranger, that things are on the up and up for you.

aidiistwoisandnofuckingu said...

I would have literally done anything to make you feel even a little bit better

Denise said...

Not knowing is what slogs me through the bad days. And something my neighbor, Richard, told me helps, too: "Believe you will emerge."

Thank you, Allie, for being able to create a story of how a lot of us feel.

Anonymous said...

Oh my god the peice of corn had me balling chunks of laughter.. I'm happy you are back, this is gold! FUCKING GOLD!!!

Unknown said...

The corn symbolizing you is a pretty crazy breakthrough. I found it funny as well and prolly would've thought it hysterical had I been in your shoes as well.
Glad to see you back posting :)

Anonymous said...

thank you

Jo said...

Just wanted to add a little more love to the stream of it here, and a thank you for helping me understand something that I've watched from the outside multiple times but never really known how to respond to.

Anonymous said...

Happy for you wether you can be happy or not!

Anonymous said...

Thank you for writing this. I've been feeling this way for years and I never knew how to explain it to people, and when I tried some would be jealous of my inability to feel anything because "then there wasn't any pain or sadness". I don't know how that would be considered a good thing, but I wish I could go back and send this comic to them so they might understand what I was going through and stop being downright insulting. I hope someday we can both break through this completely. As much as I don't ~feel~ anything, I know that this is wrong. It's just hard to find the motivation to change. You seeking help is making me realize I should probably get some as well. Thank you.

Unknown said...

I am glad you are back and starting to feel better. I hope things will continue to improve for you. On another note, everyone is weird, myself included, the important thing is to embrace it. If someone calls me weird I take it as a compliment.

Anonymous said...

Thank you.

Unknown said...

I am happy that you are back. Somehow you have been my corn when you have started posting years ago. You are wonderfull. I wish you the best. Thank you :)

Unknown said...

Oh my God. This is the most amazing description ever of the whole circle. My sweetcorn moment was a conversation about a little place called Opava near Prague.

Anonymous said...

I'm so glad you found your piece of corn. My piece of corn ended in me moving across the country. Depression is indescribable to those who haven't experienced it, but you have succeeded in doing just that. The bit about you not having feelings and everyone else having feelings at you when you have to tell someone that you are not safe by yourself was one of the worst parts for me. And the platitudes are almost insufferable. SO glad you're feeling better!

Anonymous said...

Ohhh been there done that... "Oh been feeling kinda suicidal" they freak, "WHAT OMG DO we need to /DO/ something?!" and I am like "Naaa not yet it is just **% more intense then usual we don't need to worry till it hits **%"

*Gives spare shriveled corn* just for the giggles

Anonymous said...

Sorry you had to go through this. I'm on this life long journey/battle myself and I would not wish it on anyone. Well, okay maybe a few select people I really, really don't like... Thank you for writing about it and making it more real for people who haven't been there and don't have a clue. While my experience was a bit different it was also out of body, out of control and the only people that truly understood were the few that had actually had a similar experience. Most people are well meaning but seem to think clinical depression is the equivalent of the casual "I'm depressed because my team lost or it's raining today". Not the same, not even close. I think they need to re-name it something else like out-of-body-total-self-alienation syndrome or something so people can stop saying "think positive" or "snap out of it." Keep up the good fight and keep educating people!

Node Based said...

Benign violation theory suggests that the corn was benign, and a violation of the norm. And, you perceived both at the same time. So the fact that there was this one lone corn, is funny. How does one lone kernel get anywhere unnoticed? It's benign, the corn will not attack you. It's not normal, the floor is clean in every direction. There you were, laying on the floor like a piece of corn. You probably had more in common with the corn than you have ever had. I think empathy struck. At some levels you identified with the corn. Anyway, that was a really long winded way of saying, "yeah, i think i get it." I hope you keep feeling things.

Lizzi said...

Oh, my gosh, I think most of this has happen to me before. I also think I have portrayed both parties.
For my friends, I'm pretty much the blonde chick.
I tell them to look positive, smile, and throw away all those problems.
Funny thing is, my friends couldn't treat me with the same respect.
Instead of having annoying gnats saying "What's wrong?" they would ignore me and not care.
I do agree the positive people can be annoying, but for me, I'd like people to know that they care about me.
A simple look of concern helps.
The corn incident has happened to me, too.
Life seems shitty for me, but that's because everyone makes me feel like shit.
Everyone made me get a form of depression.
I felt/feel useless.
It's kind of like now depression is a pandemic. One whiff of it and it could harm you.
Hate to play the blame game, but that's how it is for me.
TL;DR: I feel you.

Anonymous said...

Thank you for being you

Saffire said...

I just hope that wasn't your therapist you were drawing who was so insistent on being optimistic. I would've fired her on the spot.

Gives me some guidance on how to be a good/better therapist. My dysthymia has dipped into depressive episodes much like you described, so I only hope I can do a service the way you are here by posting this. Thank you.

The Hatmaster said...

So.... You probably won't read this, but this is extrodinarily similar to how I feel. Sometimes I have random depression that feels like nothing and nothing is wrong, it's just all notingness. I often feel like, while I have no desire to kill myself, I would absolutely love to just not exist. And in the morning, or sometimes if I'm tired and grumpy, I simply hate everything forever, and kindness is dumb, and people are dumb, HOW THE F*** DOES SHE FEEL LIKE SHE HAS ANY RIGHT TO SAY HI TO ME!!!!!!!! SAYING HI AND CHEERFULNESS AND ASKING IF I'M OKAY IS NOT OKAY EVEN A LITTLE BIT. EVEN SLIGHTLY. SHE IS DUMB AND I HATE HER WITH A FOREVER-HATE. So yeah. And I am supposedly well-balanced. So you probably won't read this, but if you do, I feel you bro.

Anonymous said...

It's like you live in my head. Thank you for putting into words what I have not been able to! I've been medicated for some time now, but it still feels strange. I don't even know what "it" is, but "it" still feels strange... Glad you're back!

Lisa the Mad said...

I didn't know how I was going to explain to my people why I'm going to be checking into a psych hospital, but now I have this. I hope it helps them understand why they need to stop telling me to smile. :/

Allie Brosh, I really like that you exist. The things you say make more sense to me than the things I try to say myself. Thank you. <3

KellyLynn said...

You're amazing and so is the corn. I'm not going to be all optimistic because, fuck that, but I will say that we have all hidden in hoodies and scowled at life before. I'm happy you're back though, regardless of how gloom and doom you may feel. :-)

Unknown said...

That's pretty accurate description of depression. Right now I have dead fish, and everyone keeps asking "why don't you smile any more, you use to smile." yep.

Nal said...

YES. This is literally the best thing that has happened all year so far. So happy. Glad to see you back, even if this post was pretty worrying.

Dana Defelici said...

The fish metaphor is indeed brilliant. Perfect. You have a way with words I wish I had! I'm so happy you're back :D

Felidae said...

I just discovered your website a couple months ago and was deeply disappointed when I realized how long it had been since your last post. Then, you post the day after my birthday. I'm just going to ignore all logic and call it a present. Somehow, you both make depression hilarious and hit on so many truths. Also, I can't even think the word "parpy" without giggling. Thank you for being awesome!

Anonymous said...

Finally, a way to describe to my friends and family about the crap I've been dealing with. I'm certain you know exactly what this post means to me. Thank you.

Anonymous said...

Thank you for writing this, I hope eventually you start to realise that life is actually ok (ish) and one day you should get some new goldfish.

Liz said...

While my depression has never been as bad as this, I can totally relate to the idea of crying just for crying and not really having any idea why. I am so glad that things are going better for you. <3

jjnkknmkkl said...

So, so happy that you are back,m and so so sorry that you've been depressed. I know how it feels so won't be annoying, but - glad you are back. And I managed to laugh and cry at the same time about the corn.

Unknown said...

I think you just changed my life.

Anonymous said...

Something similar happened to Eckhart Tolle in the "Power of Now"...maybe give the audiobook a listen.

Anonymous said...

Keep on rollin'.

Anonymous said...

Right now, including mine, you have 3615 comments.

Not bad for an 18~19 month hiatus.

I'm glad you are posting again, I've missed your stories.

If it helps, though it might become addicting, what pulled me out of mine was Minecraft. Something about isolation in a world of your own creation always helped me feel more at ease. And hey, four years later and I'm doing pretty good!

anna flixion said...

Wow, it's absolutely amazing how familiar this all is. So much of this is exactly what I went through--almost twenty years ago. It was the most soul-crushing thing ever. It was like being in a black hole any time I reached for the things I used to use to make me feel better (books, music, movies, boyfriends)I just pulled them into the hole and they meant nothing. But after therapy and meds I got better. Now I look back in utter amazement because I can't believe I've come so far, or how good I feel today. Best wishes for everyone else who is struggling with this numbing horror. It really can get better!

Anonymous said...

Is it wrong to hope there is a tattoo of a shriveled piece of corn in your future? Yours could be the first!

Anonymous said...

I have been walking around with handfuls of dead fish for a few months now. Today you gave me hope for corn. Thank you, and like everyone else, so glad to see a post from you. It sucks that you can't absorb a little of the joy you have brought to so many other people through your work. My wish for you is that you eventually will.

Christina said...

Your entry really spoke to me. So much that I saved it to my computer so I could show it to people who are trying to understand what my depression was like. Thanks for being refreshingly, boldly, brutally honest. It's a really f*king hard road to walk, but I made the journey twice, and have learned so much. It was worth the work. I hope your journey is similarly fruitful.

Kristal Singletary said...

I so want to print this out and hand it to people I meet. Unbelievably familiar. Hoping to one day find my piece of corn. Thanks.

Missyerthanyou said...

You know what my turning point was? Shaving my legs in a psych ward. There was this nurse standing there watching me in all my naked second-time-failed-suicide glory, and I thought, "Why do I give a fuck about my leg hair if I want to end it all?" So, I realized maybe I did give a fuck, after all.

I'm so glad you're writing again. I was actually just thinking about you the other day in this whole "I miss that funny girl on the internet that I don't actually know, but am still concerned about her" kind of way.

You're alive, Allie. I'm glad.

Anonymous said...

I have tried to feel love when holding the children that I know I do love but I just don't know where that feeling is anymore. Your explanation is perfect and maybe I should see a doctor again and go back on medicine again and see if that helps since drinking a lot of beer isn't.

Kiyara said...

I think we're all a hive mind.

Kate said...

When I fail to find comprehensible words, I just link to your comics like this and say: "It's like that. Just less colourful and funny."

Spikey said...

Thanks for making me cry, laugh and feel. Been in similar places, similar moods.

No mushy stuff. Just, Thanks Xx

Anonymous said...

Yeah, as others have said, I have tears in my eyes after reading that. It's so familiar to me and I had a long road out of depression - I still deal with it every day.

I realised I'd been to your blog before and laughed at your story about the scared dog and the silly dog, and that was really funny, but this is a true work of art and I'm sure it will be helpful for many people.

I don't know you, Allie, but I wish you well in your recovery and I hope you know that you've touched many people with this post.

Shauna said...

Welcome back- thank you so much for sharing your experience :)

Dazzle Awesomepants Rowland said...

argh tears in my eyes! EVERYTHING ABOUT THIS POST, EVERYTHING has been my past year and a half? two year? but with a little more drunk, because I got to the point where I wanted to feel something, anything, after not being able to feel for so long. And then even that wasn't working. Shit got bad. My goldfish died and everyone was giving me bullshit solutions.

This is the most honest, truthful, and easily relatable post on depression I have ever read. <3

Anonymous said...

From another who laughs at corn . . . Thank you

moof said...

I laughed myself into a coughing fit, because I know all too well what you're talking about.

I hope you bronze that piece of corn or create the the fabled Corn Shrine or something (especially for if and when the roller coaster goes screaming down again.)

Megan Schuitema said...

Holy shit I'm so happy you're back, I thought you weren't ever going to post again. Sweet.

Anonymous said...

Here I thought that since I'm no longer desperately sad & don't need to use all my energy to not kill myself meant I'm cured. I thought not being in pain was so wonderful, it didn't occur to me to expect something more. Y'know feelings really are over-rated.

Bonnie said...

This story is my piece of corn.

Oh god, I am so glad you wrote and drew that. I sobbed and cackled. I laughed the most at the slumped-in-stained-sweatshirt drawing compared to the yoga/sunrise suggestion, and at the corn.

And you just nailed it. This is the most eloquent, articulate, humane, lucid gorgeous text on depression that I have ever read.

No matter how long it takes until your next post, I will keep checking. It's like your dog said.

Anonymous said...

those were some seriously dead fish, and we still like you. maybe on your journey back you can pick up new, pretty fish.

thanks for this. glad you found a corn.

NotAMeanGirl said...

I know the odds of you reading this in the 8 BILLION comments being left are slim and none, but Thank You. Thank you for being brave enough to talk about it. Thank you for saying it so well. Thank you for helping me remember I'm not alone or a freak or a monster when I... Just... Can't.

You're my hero and I'm so very, very ... inspired? Hopeful? That you're finding your way back. That you can. However slowly. However tentatively.

Anonymous said...

Thank you so much for writing this.I've never read a description of depression that so reminded me of my own struggle with the illness. Really glad that you've posted again, and I hope things continue to improve for you.

Agent J said...

Missed you - welcome back, from me and my whole family!

Sandra Dena said...

I know this isn't legal in most states, and I'm a heterosexual woman, but will you marry me?

You're awesome, happy or unhappy.

KonThaak said...

Allie, I love you. As always, you have a way with words and pictures that transcends the average mortal. And the way you opened up and left yourself vulnerable like that--I admire your courage. I have a lot of diary entries like that, lately, but they're not so funny... There's a lot of gratitude in here, though. I'm glad to still be alive, myself.

Took a helluvalot more than a shriveled piece of corn for me, too. I'm glad you managed to find that for yourself. <3

I'm glad to see you back.

Take care!
-Katie

shannon said...

No words, my friend. Your description of despression is incredible. I was diagnosed with it at age 13 and have never heard someone describe it so well.

Wow. Thank you for being brave enough to write that down and share it with the world. <3

- said...

Glad you're back Allie. The internet has been a dull place without you!

Anonymous said...

Today is my birthday. Your explanation of "The Black Dog" is as good as any I have ever read. Thank you for the best birthday present ever.

Enough said...

Thank you. And just... Thank you.

Anonymous said...

Amazing post!! And so true! It's good to see you back. Thanks for sharing your story, Allie.

Anonymous said...

Aww look you showed back up and did the EXACTLY SAME FUCKING THING AS LAST TIME.

If you're that depressed, don't bother posting in the future you whiny bitch.

Jordan said...

I totally get why the corn is funny. I'm glad you're not dead and things are getting a bit better.

Deanna said...

I have been in that wasteland. It got better for me - thanks to Prozac. Thanks for sharing your experiences...

Anonymous said...

thanks, allie.

Lauren said...

Thank you for sharing Allie! This is totally relatable and you have written a wonderful post to describe it. I'm glad you're back!

Anonymous said...

Thank you Allie! You've inspired me to go to the doctor today.... maybe it won't all be hopeless bullshit for me too :)

emma said...

"But my experiences slowly flattened and blended together until it became obvious that there's a huge difference between not giving a fuck and not being able to give a fuck"

This just summed up my life.
I've been struggling with depression for 25 years (but only tried to commit suicide once, so there have been improvements) and trying to explain to people what it is like is so useless. Its like trying to describe a rainbow to a blind person. They think they understand, but they can't. Having the feeling "depression" exist at the same time the condition "Depression" exists doesn't help.
I'm rambling.
Since I didn't read all 3000+ comments before me, I'm going to recommend you read The Bloggess who also talks about dealing with depression, although I suspect I'm probably the 1501 person to do so.
Thanks for talking about this.

Kendal White said...

HOORAY! Allie's alive!

Thanks for continuing to write and draw stuff. For totally selfish reasons, I hope it's something you enjoy doing for a long time.

Susan said...

I'm sorry your fish are dead. It's not your fault (although I know it's still hard).

A doctor told me that the brain is just like a kidney. It's just an organ. If your kidney wan't working right, you would go to the hospital and get dialysis and no one would think you were broken or a bad person. We can think of our brains in the same way: sometimes they don't work right, and we get depression, but it's not our fault and it doesn't mean we're bad people -- we just need to see someone and try to get it fixed.

Thank you for articulating what so many of us have felt. I hope you can find some equilibrium.

KatieP said...

The fish metaphor is the best thing I've ever seen. It's so true; I know dem feels hard. And that feeling of "it might not all be bullshit" is the first step. Feeling anything is better than feeling nothing. I know for a fact that the hatred sometimes keeps you warm. And that corn can be the funniest damn thing ever.

K. White said...

Thank you for this. The husband (one of those perpetually optimist types) sent this to me, saying that it's helping him to see what I feel and go through with my depression.

Jedi hugs (tm Capt. Awkward)

Unknown said...

May we all find corn and corniness.

24-7-365 mom said...

I can relate so hard. Only it wasn't a piece of corn, it was a picture of a donkee with a pancake on its head that brought back the laughter... in fits...where I almost couldn't breath. ♡ so glad you are back.

Unknown said...

Best. Post. Ever.

Karla said...

I'm sitting here sobbing my guts out because yeah, this is totally it. I wish I could say something good, but I can't. I can only thank you and hope that you get to a better place.

Anonymous said...

Been there. It sucks. Glad things are improving for you. It really does get better. Trust the people who are trying to help you, even if you don't know why.

Anonymous said...

I don't even have words. I'm sorry to be feeling all my feels at you (I hope that's okay) but your story has just moved me to beyond words, so that's all I can do. The internet and I have been waiting so so so long for your return! And now you're finally back and I'm so happy! Thank you for having the courage to share yourself with us. We're all super happy you did. I hope to be hearing a lot more from you soon. We love you Allie!!! <3

Alice H. said...

Thanks for writing this ( and the earlier one)- when people don't seem to understand what I have gone though is like, I'll just refer them to your blog.

Jess said...

I was linked here from a depression chat room (yes, in 2013). Agreed with some people above: this is the best description of depression I have ever seen. It's genuine, honest, has concrete examples and perfect metaphors (the fish metaphor: spot on), and made me want to scream "YES!!!!! FINALLY, SOMEONE GETS IT!"

I've felt paralyzed by depression since last year. I feel like my IQ has dropped 40 points. My friends either shower me with well-meaning platitudes and then wonder why I'm still depressed, or just grow wary and back away Kool-Aid Man style. But you get it and you were able to make something horrible into something awesome. I think I'll show this to the ones who have stuck around.

Thanks for posting this--you have made some random depressed girl in Florida happy for a second. Wishing you lots of corn and kiwi and grasshoppers and pink plastic monkeys!

Tam said...

I've been there. Hysterical laughing, hating everything, the big grey nothing...all of it. It got better for me. I'm almost normal now...or at least good at faking it. Good luck. I hope you find your way out, too. I missed you and worried about you, even though I never said a word. Funny how the internet works sometimes.

Anonymous said...

Don't be so spoiled and kill yourself, because you're the only person on the known internet I can relate to in terms of absurdity and honesty melding together to make it in this life. If you can't do that, it questions my own ability to cope in the way that's been serving me (us) well so far. Besides, you're obviously my brain doublet, and who the hell knows what would happen if you were gone? 0.o

Anonymous said...

Missed you so much x

Unknown said...

I understand just crying. I did mine on a art studio table where I no longer made art. I still don't and wonder if I ever will again. This is so true. The 'pull yourself up by your bootstraps and look at how wonderful the world is" crap drives me so insane. I am so glad you are back. I still buy skittles in bulk just for you. Hugs.

Anonymous said...

Yeah. People don't get it. All the hope is so tiring. I simultaneously want to stab people in the eye and give them a hug (so they feel better - not me, I know I won't) when I get "hope" talks. And they.never.end. Everyone thinks they can find that ONE THING that will bring you back. It's exhausting. That's why I want to be alone all the time. Or dead. One and the same, seems like.

Gigi said...

Wonderfully well said!

Anonymous said...

Glad you're back. Your posts are inspirational and I can't tell you what a relief it is to see you writing again - I was worried you stopped for good. Sounds like you're moving in the right direction anyway, good for you.

Anonymous said...

Totally spot on. And you will learn to trust yourself again. To trust your instinct to survive.

dinsquared said...

So much this. If my soul could write all the things that have happened to me, it would write this. But instead, you wrote it. And that is so fucking amazing. With depression, I don't tell people to get better. I tell them to take it day by day. And if you can't do that, take it hour by hour, or minute by minute, or second by second. Just keep breathing. Sometimes that's all you can ask of yourself. I don't know you, but I love you.

Brianna Zani said...

I'm at the "trying to explain that my fish are dead to my family and friends" stage. It is exhausting. Or would be, if I could feel exhausted.

Reuben Fergusson said...

Glad youre back and still kicking.

Unknown said...

Thank you for sharing your experience. You're incredible and so is that piece of corn!!

Anonymous said...

The entire internet missed you while you were away. Very glad you are back.

Little Ghost said...

I'm crylaughing through all of this. Thank you for this amazing post!

Anonymous said...

I know no one will read this, there's so many comments! But I remember getting the "hope of hope". "Things still suck bad, but maybe one day they won't for some reason?" was more than I'd felt in what seems like years.

I love your depression posts. Not that you're going through depression, of course! I wish it didn't exist. But you managed to articulate exactly the feelings and lack thereof that I've been through and fear returning. It makes me feel slightly less afraid to think "even if I am broken, at least I'm part of something." Thank you so much for sharing.

I hope it helps you to hear that your work is amazing.

chitheatergirl said...

Crying at work is something I try not to do. Obviously I should have saved your post for home-viewing. I'm sure thousands of commenters will tell you they know just how you feel, and that's absolutely true, but mostly I want to say thanks for putting this out there.

keight dukes said...

with 4000 comments i cant be the first to go here, but all i can think is that your corn is the perfect mascot for this whole thing.

it goes into the pit, gets packed into the shit and then rides the turd out the other side. shriveled? yes, but still corn.

not that your corn was ever pooped out by anyone...or that you are indigestible, but i dont know. feels like something's there.

now i'm afraid that i'm a feeling monster trying to assign meaning and emotions to stuff that is yours alone.

all i care about is that youre through the shit and that youre still corn. because i probably love you.

Sarah said...

I FEEL LIKE I JUST READ MY OWN THOUGHTS IN SOMEONE ELSE'S VOICE!
Everything, it's exactly right. The fog, the wanting to be dead, the wanting everyone to stop caring about you so you don't have to feel bad about wanting to be dead, the hating everything, the meaningless crying. Thank you for writing this, and posting it. I see how dead your fish are. My fish are dead too.

The CilleyGirl said...

I remember well my year of unfeeling. Seemed great at the time until the reality sinks in, and then it all went pretty much like you described it. No corn though. Went back down the rabbit hole a few years later to where I not only wanted to not be alive anymore but figured out how to do it. Thankfully have an understanding doctor with a fabulous prescription pad. I love my antidepressants. Love love love them and plan to take them forever. Because some days (weeks/months/whatever) there is still endless nothing and I do not matter in the slightest to it. Like now. I hope it goes away soon.

mary said...

!!!! Thank you for this. You are clever and resilient! Proud of you for writing and expressing and generally DOING something because I know how hard that can be.

Phillip said...

So accurate, it burns. The next time I have to explain my feelings (or lack thereof) to somebody, I'm just going to make them read this entire thing while I maybe get some juice.

Grumpy said...

God, I missed you.

Brianne said...

You made me smile. Even as I was sad and reading what your last year has been like... I laughed. Literally, out loud.

I liked this post very much. I liked it, Alot.

Stan said...

THAT'S IT EXACTLY!! Next time my meds cut out, I'm sending all those well-meaning friends HERE.

Andrea said...

Here I am, being so angry and sad on the floor. At least I'm not that piece of corn that is also sad and angry. That corn is probably way more sad and angry than I am. Wait, corn doesn't have feelings. I don't have feelings! I am the corn under the fridge. Yes! I relate to corn! -maniacal laughter-
Get it... because the corn is me... so it's funny... guys?

(is how my brain usually works about corn-type situations)

Anonymous said...

you nailed it exactly - the isolation, the inability to convey that people are helping at all with their unrelatable positivity, and then feeling responsible for their reaction to you, how everything that used to be fun turns to 'ashes in your mouth'...your pictures help keep it a funny and entertaining read. You're helping people understand depression by making the description palatable. Why are creative people so often depressed???!!!??

Anonymous said...

I know. Thank God for my Simple Dog whom I knew woud despair without me!

BFBS said...

Good lord, I have so been here. Not so bad now. but EVERYTHING resonates. So glad you are back. Love this blog. Keep posting if you can about your ups AND downs-you obviously have a massively supportive audience. xx

Chelsea said...

You have a way of explaining how crippling depression is really well and making it funny. It's so hard to talk about and explain what's going on when your brain just...stops working the right way. I've been right where you are, and things do get better eventually. It's not easy or quick, but getting help is one of the best steps you can take. Soon, things that aren't tiny pieces of corn will also make you laugh. Like tiny pieces of watermelon or something.

Kerri said...

yes, yes, yes, yes, yes - thank you, thank you, for putting into words and pictures what I try to explain and just can't - thank you for sharing this

Unknown said...

"...the possibility exists..."

Yep. There it is, right there.

It's so hard to see when the light is turned off, but when they light comes back on? Whoa! There's that kernel. Right there.

Caitlyn K. said...

Oh, welcome back to the internets! Or maybe you've been here for a while but just been kinda quiet. I still like you when you're gone, and I so appreciate that you're so honest and genuine. You might not mean to be, but you're an activist and I think that's awesome. I've actually sent some of my clients with depression to your blog. It's Mental Health Awareness month, you know :)

Anonymous said...

As someone embarking on a similar recovery path, I just want to say thank you for posting this (and everything). I've never seen a better explanation of what this feels like that your last few posts and it has been comforting for me. I hope you're doing well and continuing to climb out of it. It's an odd thing to have to be so brave in the face of what feels like so much meaninglessness and misunderstanding. I look forward to reading more!

Anonymous said...

this is exactly how it feels, thank you thank you for finally giving me words to explain to people!
lots of love to you <3

Anonymous said...

Why can't I hold all these feels? I wish I could give some to you

I'm glad you're starting to feel again. My thoughts will be with you - I hope that one day you will experience every emotion again, but most of all, happiness. You deserved it, Allie.

Anonymous said...

I used to judge depressed people and say to myself "man up, dude". But one time I got addicted to painkillers and on withdrawal I fell into what you described. Never again will I judge.

Jessie said...

This whole post is eerily like what's been happening to me lately. The corn is making me both laugh AND cry. I'm so glad you posted again and that you decided to stay alive!

Candace said...

I hope that you have scattered frozen succotash around the house. You know, as a form of laughter-breadcrumbs to find your way back from the Evil Brain-Eating, Candy-House-Living Witch in the Woods. Just imagine, dried peas, dried corn, and dried carrots... maybe a lima bean or two at EVERY TURN!

This cannot fail.

Chris said...

I don't know exactly what it's like to share all of this with all of us but I'm glad you did. I probably can't empathise (thought some of your inner monologue sounds so familiar) but I am very sorry that this happened to you. I hope these comments are a testament to how -not- meaningless you are to so many, and I also hope this feeling awkwardly lodges itself somewhere in your brain and gets all up in your cranial feng-shui.

Unknown said...

All of your writing--your drawings, your funny stuff, the serious stuff--makes me feel good. So thank you.

ALLIE'S BACK!

tiffanized said...

Thanks for the part about hatred being your first re-feeling feel. Recently mine was anger and I really thought it meant that the depression had finally broken me and I was just going to grump around angry and hateful forever. I haven't found my dried up piece of corn yet but I trust now that it's there.

Anonymous said...

I just called my psychiatrist's office to schedule my first appt in years because of this post. Thank you. You really nailed it.

Lara said...

I love how brave and awesome you are!

Joanna said...

Omg, I really do love you because you have this great way of articulating what is happening inside my head.

Seriously, thank you so much for staying with us, even as it all feels like bullshit (annoying as hell, i know)

I am very glad you wrote --thank you! <3

Anonymous said...

Thank you for this one...a lot. This is something I really needed to see today.

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