Depression Part Two

I remember being endlessly entertained by the adventures of my toys. Some days they died repeated, violent deaths, other days they traveled to space or discussed my swim lessons and how I absolutely should be allowed in the deep end of the pool, especially since I was such a talented doggy-paddler.


I didn't understand why it was fun for me, it just was.


But as I grew older, it became harder and harder to access that expansive imaginary space that made my toys fun. I remember looking at them and feeling sort of frustrated and confused that things weren't the same.


I played out all the same story lines that had been fun before, but the meaning had disappeared. Horse's Big Space Adventure transformed into holding a plastic horse in the air, hoping it would somehow be enjoyable for me. Prehistoric Crazy-Bus Death Ride was just smashing a toy bus full of dinosaurs into the wall while feeling sort of bored and unfulfilled.  I could no longer connect to my toys in a way that allowed me to participate in the experience.


Depression feels almost exactly like that, except about everything.

At first, though, the invulnerability that accompanied the detachment was exhilarating. At least as exhilarating as something can be without involving real emotions.


The beginning of my depression had been nothing but feelings, so the emotional deadening that followed was a welcome relief.  I had always wanted to not give a fuck about anything. I viewed feelings as a weakness — annoying obstacles on my quest for total power over myself. And I finally didn't have to feel them anymore.

But my experiences slowly flattened and blended together until it became obvious that there's a huge difference between not giving a fuck and not being able to give a fuck. Cognitively, you might know that different things are happening to you, but they don't feel very different.


Which leads to horrible, soul-decaying boredom.



I tried to get out more, but most fun activities just left me existentially confused or frustrated with my inability to enjoy them.


Months oozed by, and I gradually came to accept that maybe enjoyment was not a thing I got to feel anymore. I didn't want anyone to know, though. I was still sort of uncomfortable about how bored and detached I felt around other people, and I was still holding out hope that the whole thing would spontaneously work itself out. As long as I could manage to not alienate anyone, everything might be okay!

However, I could no longer rely on genuine emotion to generate facial expressions, and when you have to spend every social interaction consciously manipulating your face into shapes that are only approximately the right ones, alienating people is inevitable.


Everyone noticed.


It's weird for people who still have feelings to be around depressed people. They try to help you have feelings again so things can go back to normal, and it's frustrating for them when that doesn't happen. From their perspective, it seems like there has got to be some untapped source of happiness within you that you've simply lost track of, and if you could just see how beautiful things are...


At first, I'd try to explain that it's not really negativity or sadness anymore, it's more just this detached, meaningless fog where you can't feel anything about anything — even the things you love, even fun things — and you're horribly bored and lonely, but since you've lost your ability to connect with any of the things that would normally make you feel less bored and lonely, you're stuck in the boring, lonely, meaningless void without anything to distract you from how boring, lonely, and meaningless it is.


But people want to help. So they try harder to make you feel hopeful and positive about the situation. You explain it again, hoping they'll try a less hope-centric approach, but re-explaining your total inability to experience joy inevitably sounds kind of negative; like maybe you WANT to be depressed. The positivity starts coming out in a spray — a giant, desperate happiness sprinkler pointed directly at your face. And it keeps going like that until you're having this weird argument where you're trying to convince the person that you are far too hopeless for hope just so they'll give up on their optimism crusade and let you go back to feeling bored and lonely by yourself.


And that's the most frustrating thing about depression. It isn't always something you can fight back against with hope. It isn't even something — it's nothing. And you can't combat nothing. You can't fill it up. You can't cover it. It's just there, pulling the meaning out of everything. That being the case, all the hopeful, proactive solutions start to sound completely insane in contrast to the scope of the problem.

It would be like having a bunch of dead fish, but no one around you will acknowledge that the fish are dead. Instead, they offer to help you look for the fish or try to help you figure out why they disappeared.


The problem might not even have a solution. But you aren't necessarily looking for solutions. You're maybe just looking for someone to say "sorry about how dead your fish are" or "wow, those are super dead. I still like you, though."


I started spending more time alone.


Perhaps it was because I lacked the emotional depth necessary to panic, or maybe my predicament didn't feel dramatic enough to make me suspicious, but I somehow managed to convince myself that everything was still under my control right up until I noticed myself wishing that nothing loved me so I wouldn't feel obligated to keep existing.


It's a strange moment when you realize that you don't want to be alive anymore. If I had feelings, I'm sure I would have felt surprised. I have spent the vast majority of my life actively attempting to survive. Ever since my most distant single-celled ancestor squiggled into existence, there has been an unbroken chain of things that wanted to stick around.


Yet there I was, casually wishing that I could stop existing in the same way you'd want to leave an empty room or mute an unbearably repetitive noise.


That wasn't the worst part, though. The worst part was deciding to keep going.


When I say that deciding to not kill myself was the worst part, I should clarify that I don't mean it in a retrospective sense. From where I am now, it seems like a solid enough decision. But at the time, it felt like I had been dragging myself through the most miserable, endless wasteland, and — far in the distance — I had seen the promising glimmer of a slightly less miserable wasteland. And for just a moment, I thought maybe I'd be able to stop and rest. But as soon as I arrived at the border of the less miserable wasteland, I found out that I'd have to turn around and walk back the other way.


Soon afterward, I discovered that there's no tactful or comfortable way to inform other people that you might be suicidal. And there's definitely no way to ask for help casually.


I didn't want it to be a big deal. However, it's an alarming subject. Trying to be nonchalant about it just makes it weird for everyone.


I was also extremely ill-prepared for the position of comforting people. The things that seemed reassuring at the time weren't necessarily comforting for others.


I had so very few feelings, and everyone else had so many, and it felt like they were having all of them in front of me at once. I didn't really know what to do, so I agreed to see a doctor so that everyone would stop having all of their feelings at me.


The next few weeks were a haze of talking to relentlessly hopeful people about my feelings that didn't exist so I could be prescribed medication that might help me have them again.


And every direction was bullshit for a really long time, especially up. The absurdity of working so hard to continue doing something you don't like can be overwhelming. And the longer it takes to feel different, the more it starts to seem like everything might actually be hopeless bullshit.


My feelings did start to return eventually. But not all of them came back, and they didn't arrive symmetrically.

I had not been able to care for a very long time, and when I finally started being able to care about things again, I HATED them. But hatred is technically a feeling, and my brain latched onto it like a child learning a new word.


Hating everything made all the positivity and hope feel even more unpalatable. The syrupy, over-simplified optimism started to feel almost offensive.


Thankfully, I rediscovered crying just before I got sick of hating things.  I call this emotion "crying" and not "sadness" because that's all it really was. Just crying for the sake of crying. My brain had partially learned how to be sad again, but it took the feeling out for a joy ride before it had learned how to use the brakes or steer.


At some point during this phase, I was crying on the kitchen floor for no reason. As was common practice during bouts of floor-crying, I was staring straight ahead at nothing in particular and feeling sort of weird about myself. Then, through the film of tears and nothingness, I spotted a tiny, shriveled piece of corn under the refrigerator.


I don't claim to know why this happened, but when I saw the piece of corn, something snapped. And then that thing twisted through a few permutations of logic that I don't understand, and produced the most confusing bout of uncontrollable, debilitating laughter that I have ever experienced.


I had absolutely no idea what was going on.


My brain had apparently been storing every unfelt scrap of happiness from the last nineteen months, and it had impulsively decided to unleash all of it at once in what would appear to be an act of vengeance.


That piece of corn is the funniest thing I have ever seen, and I cannot explain to anyone why it's funny. I don't even know why. If someone ever asks me "what was the exact moment where things started to feel slightly less shitty?" instead of telling a nice, heartwarming story about the support of the people who loved and believed in me, I'm going to have to tell them about the piece of corn. And then I'm going to have to try to explain that no, really, it was funny. Because, see, the way the corn was sitting on the floor... it was so alone... and it was just sitting there! And no matter how I explain it, I'll get the same, confused look. So maybe I'll try to show them the piece of corn - to see if they get it. They won't. Things will get even weirder.


Anyway, I wanted to end this on a hopeful, positive note, but, seeing as how my sense of hope and positivity is still shrouded in a thick layer of feeling like hope and positivity are bullshit, I'll just say this: Nobody can guarantee that it's going to be okay, but — and I don't know if this will be comforting to anyone else — the possibility exists that there's a piece of corn on a floor somewhere that will make you just as confused about why you are laughing as you have ever been about why you are depressed. And even if everything still seems like hopeless bullshit, maybe it's just pointless bullshit or weird bullshit or possibly not even bullshit.


I don't know. 

But when you're concerned that the miserable, boring wasteland in front of you might stretch all the way into forever, not knowing feels strangely hope-like. 






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Ben Rausch said...

Welcome back!!!

SHS said...

I really liked the one cartoon where the yoga person is trying to sell her well being shtick to the depressed girl. Also, this blog made me feel like my depression was surmountable simply because, without accepting the seemingly mindless positivity of those around her, she was still able to lift herself up. I think that's what people who haven't lived through it don't understand. You have to convince yourself to keep going regardless of whether or not it gets better just so it can get better.

Anonymous said...

That was awesome. I'm so sorry about all of that. Nothing worse than feeling like you're in a big hole and wondering if you will ever get out of it and feel right again. I'm glad things have started to come back, and I'm really glad you put this together, because now I have something I can send to people who need to see it and at least they will know they aren't alone.

And the corn totally made me laugh.

Hannah @ Once Upon A Time said...

Spot-fucking-on. And how the fuck did you make me laugh about something so horrible? HOW DO YOU DO THAT?! I laughed at the corn, too, by the way. Thought you'd like to know. Funny corn.

Karenkool said...

A PIECE OF CORN!!! Baaahahahaha, it makes no sense, but that's just it! Thank you for the peak into your journey of depression. Who knows the enormous impact your story will bring to this world!!!

Ken in OKC said...

My partner went through several years of debilitating depression. It was agony for me and hell for him. Thanks for sharing your experience. Yes, this describes depression to a T. I will say though that meds greatly helped break the spiral black hole that was sucking the life force from him. They weren't the only solution, but they did indeed act as a life preserver to keep him from drowning.

I am glad you are doing better. I wish you well and hope things get easier for you. I know it is an unbearable burden.

Jeana said...

Thank you for sharing your story. Bonus that it's in Hyperbole and a Half format and is not only insightful and honest but also hilarious.

You're helping give other people with depression something hope-like as well.

Emmajay said...

EXACTLY. I am a wimp and a pussy, according to everyone else, but this stuff is impossible. I was numb for years and years and years and now I've been in the crying (for no reason) stage for almost two years... It never ends.

Anonymous said...

This should be required reading for psychiatrists. Seriously nothing I've read has captured what depression is like better than you have.

My poor special dog does the same thing when I'm depressed, and I want to scream at him, "Why do you love me you stupid mutt?"

Keep getting better. I takes plenty of work, but remember your stupid dog needs you around.

Anonymous said...

Absolutely wonderful.

Unknown said...

P.S. You did make me laugh, and it was uncomfortable. I liked it.

also, corn*-laughter-journey

Happydog said...

This should be required reading for everyone who is dealing with depression and everyone who has someone in their life that's depressed. Especially the part about trying to explain feelings of wanting to just not exist.
I had the same experience of feeling like crap and having to reassure others at the same time...bullshit.
And I have had the equivalent corn experience and for something unexplainable you have actually nailed it.
Glad to see you decided to stick around and share this bullshit with all of us.
Something I told myself in the darkest times was "Just keep breathing." Please, just keep breathing...

Arthur Salm said...

Years ago I read William Styron's "Darkness Visible," a brilliant, searing, psyche-wrenching account of his battle with depression. Well, this post is BETTER. It should be published as a stand-alone book. (By Simon & Schuster, of course. You & I have the same publisher!)

Unknown said...

Gosh. You break my heart, and you make me very happy! Missed you and I'm so glad you are here again.

Anonymous said...

I'm so glad that you're back and (I assume from your post) that you're feeling a little bit better.

As I read your story, though, it made me think of one of my favorite authors: Haruki Murakami, and particularly two of his stories: The Wind Up Bird Chronicles and After Dark. Quite an interesting connection, really, and brilliant. So, if you have never read Haruki Murakami, I honestly believe you might based on this post; they resonate a similar tone.

Kristin said...

Welcome back, Allie. I missed your posts. Thanks for sharing this with the world.

David Shipman said...

Your closing picture beautifully illustrates my exact feelings about beating my own case of depression. I just never knew how to put it in words. Thank you for this post. I hope you find your way out of the wasteland soon enough.

Stacey said...

I knew I liked corn for a reason. Also? Brilliantly written as always. You made me get it.

Rob said...

This is the most accurate description of depression I've ever read. Brought me to tears because I'm still experiencing this. But I'm glad your piece of corn is helping you along! Maybe I should spend more time looking under kitchen appliances...
PS: Welcome back!

BaronSamhedi said...

Thank you for saying everything about depression that I ever wanted to say and doing it much better than I ever could.

Aileen said...

I'll get back to you when I've figured out how to type out the sound the human body makes when it laughs and cries (and then sort of burps) at the same time for 20 minutes.

Jen W said...

Thank you. You are an eloquent person who totally expressed the feelings many of us go through. Thank you for sharing.

Koriann said...

Thank you, Allie. Thank you for sharing, for being honest, and for being you.

Tara said...

I know exactly what you mean re: corn! When I was little I had this weird vision when I was sick, of a tiny perfect flower...the tiniest most perfectest flower there ever was, just sitting waving placidly in a nonexistent wind...each tiny teensy perfect petal bobbing gently over its perfect tiny innocent little leaves...then THE BIGGEST MOST GIGANTIC UGLY BOULDER WOULD SMASH THE FUCK DOWN ON IT like a million-ton anvil in a cartoon and completely obliterate it- and then I would laugh hysterically. It still makes me laugh when I think about it...something about the total senselessness of the situation, the hyperbolic overkill of using a god-sized boulder to smash a nearly-microscopic plant, idk. But the boulderflower is my corn.
Glad to know you're crazy too! ;)

Pavel said...

Your ability to be able to put feelings into words and pictures is an amazing gift. Thanks for sharing it with us again.

Antonio said...

Nailed it.

C said...

I can relate.

I have a cat. said...

Dear Allie -

I've been there. I know that border. I've seen that corn (for me, it was half-cleaned cat hairball).

I'm so glad you're doing better, and that while "better" is subjective to each person, that it's there for you.

Welcome back. The internet loves you. <3

Ian said...

Freakishly accurate and it does get better in the sense that "better" is just another way of saying you're more aware and GI Joe says that's half the battle.

Anonymous said...

Three words: The Bell Jar.

This is a poem I wrote that is a tribute to that book.

http://wherethewillowweeps.wordpress.com/2013/04/26/esther/

For whatever it's worth, you're not alone.

Anonymous said...

You hit the nail on the head and I thank you from the bottom of my heart. I shared this and sent it to people i know because this will help people who aren't dealing with depression to deal with those who are.

Anonymous said...

Today I was driving to work and thought to myself, "Everything is just a huge ball of bullshit." I was thinking of how I'm tired of dealing with it all. I was trying to sum up my "feelings" or the reason for their lack of existence. Then I saw this post. This is EXACTLY how I feel.

Anonymous said...

I'm so sorry you're going through this. I've been there. I love your blog.

Gemma said...

Yup, cloorn, makes total sense. Glad you're on the rollercoaster of feelings towards whatever the world around you considers normal. I'm still at the dead fish stage myself... everyone seems convinced that I'm Superwoman and can't possibly feel like I feel... I may just have to go find a dead fish to slap them with... or something. Anyway, I rambled off on a tangent. Glad you're back with us :)

Kris Claire said...

Well said. Thanks for helping so many to understand. Thanks for taking the time. Thanks for putting yourself out there, again. So many feel what you do ("What's the point?" - "What's the meaning of life? ... What if there is no meaning?") and struggle to crawl through the muck alone. You just made thousands of other people feel a lot less alone and the universe has this thing it does that we aren't in control of called Karma ....

May the blessing return to you 100 fold without any effort at all on your part.

XOXO,

~ Kris (and Macy and Maddy)

Cynical Nymph said...

Very happy to see word from you, very sorry that things have been masquerading as hopeless bullshit for so long.

Very glad you saw that piece of corn.

Anonymous said...

I just want you to know that I've been feeling... or not feeling something very similar lately, and have also started experiencing feelings again. I get the uncontrollable laughter sometimes too. Anyway, I can't tell you what it was like to read this. I'm not sure exactly what the feeling is, but it seems like a good one.... Thank you!

Lisa Page Rosenberg said...

I super get you. Super.

Anonymous said...

I'm so incredibly glad to see your post today.
I've been there, so I totally know this won't help or anything but it can get better.
I'm so amazingly happy that you're still here and I want you to know I laughed like crazy about the corn.

Jeffrey said...

I read The Savage God, by Alvarez, a well-researched book about the subject of suicide from the perspective of literary figures who also suffered from severe depression, using long passages of their works as illustration (not the cute-dog and cuter ponytail-girl kind). Not hope, not paths, just examples. It was my turning point from desperate rock-bottom.

What Val said: "Embrace the corn."

I missed you. But take your own time.

Anonymous said...

I can only partially relate, having experienced some mild PPD before, but I want to say thank you for sharing, and.... more than that, thank you for recognizing that sharing can help other people. Already so many people have said that they can relate, so I'm hoping that the people who are not even aware that there's corn waiting for them, might find hope that they will.

Don't give up! What you do makes a difference.

Unknown said...

I love this! I've been there a few times and you describe it so perfectly. I laughed, I cried, I can relate. I found my corn and I'm glad to hear you have found yours. Great post!

Riki said...

I hope you find other pieces of corn in your life, but maybe not corn - just corn pieces. ((hugs))

Anonymous said...

I've been there. Still am there sometimes. You're not alone :)

Megan Marie said...

This is absolutely beautiful. Anyone that has never experienced depression just assumes it's full of drama, angst, and crying. I have never found anything describe how it feels so well until this ;__; it's so perfect. Best of luck to you, and know that this post not only will cast a little ray of sunshine on any of us going through the same thing, but also to help raise awareness of what this feels like.

Serena said...

Bravo, Allie.

Ryan said...

Thank you for sharing this Allie, it is such a hard thing for some to talk about and even harder for most to understand.

I've been trying to write something hopeful and happy, but maybe I just need to say thank you, you are awesome.

Morgan Sosa said...

<3 You are amazing.

Anonymous said...

This. Is. Brilliant. I laughed out loud on my own (in a spot-the-corn-under-the-fridge sort of way.) Every word rings true with me. Hope things better for all of us.

Moonofsilver said...

I know I've never dealt with depression before--but I wanted to say that I love your blog and no matter what you go through I will always love it!

I'm sorry that your "fish are dead" and you know what--its okay! people deal with things all the time. and its okay even if it feels like its not.

God loves you. I'll be praying for you. and thank you for sharing your story.

lchaston said...

This is brilliantly written. I have not lived in depression (although I have visited from time to time), but I spent most of my childhood living with it, while my mom lived in it. There are a lot of pieces of depression that I have thought I understood, even though I know that I can't comprehend what it is like to wear that cloak every minute of every day. Your dead fish analogy was genius. I feel like I get it.

Your frank (and strangely funny) explanation of suicidal feelings was also spot on. It's like speaking a different language without any interpreter.

And the corn? Just like there is no explanation for why we feel sad . . . or why we feel nothing . . . sometimes there's no explanation for why we feel happy. We just do. We feel what we feel ... or we feel nothing. That is our reality, no matter what anyone else's reality is. What we do with that reality is the key, and your bravery and willingness to do something when all you wanted was nothing is heroic.

Thank you for opening your life up to us. I've been enlightened and inspired. And I laughed.

Anonymous said...

It's like you're drawing MY LIFE. Thank you for this. Also? Welcome back :)

Dave said...

Sorry about how dead your fish are. I'm really glad things are getting better.

Vore said...

I laughed all the way through, up until the end where I let out a sob. I went through pretty much everything there minus medication. It's not over really but it's ok now. Things work. I can laugh!

colleenislove said...

Allie it is so wonderful to hear from you. Thank you for sharing how you feel. You don't know it yet, but you just helped a lot of us understand our own loved ones a little better.

Jonie said...

so, the key it's to seek for help uh? ;/

Jonie said...

so, the key it's to seek for help uh? ;/

Anonymous said...

I usually don't comment on things but this was so, so, so good and spot on. Everything from the words to the drawings are just spot on. I have always had trouble expressing depression to people who aren't depressed or have never suffered from it. I feel like I just want to send this to everyone who doesn't understand.

Anonymous said...

Thank you thank you thank you! I've never been able to quite explain what depression feels like until I read your post...good to know someone gets it!

Anonymous said...

Welcome back to the interwebs - we missed you. Keep on keepin' on.

Stacy @bklynstacy said...

I TOTALLY get the corn. Except in my case it was CRUMBS of who knows what under my FRIDGE. After the billionth night of lying on my kitchen floor crying myself empty, after I stopped crying I saw the crumbs for the very first time. And I thought, "Huh, crumbs. Wonder if I should get them out of there. Wonder if they've been there a really long time." And that, for some reason, is what catapulted my brain back into living: just the notion that crumbs get made, get swept up or don't, and that I would get off the floor and eventually stop finding myself on the floor and that that WAS ALL COMPLETELY NORMAL. And not proof that I should not live. *sigh* Who knew so much widsom could be discovered in unclean homes? I'm never vacuuming again. Thanks for always saying and showing things in the just-right way, and I am happy you are feeling even a little bit different. I give you no hope or wishes; I just witness your shit and say Namaste, sister.

Anonymous said...

In all the years I've dealt with depression and struggling to find the words to tell people why their solutions couldn't help, I never found an explanation as brilliant as this. Fucking genius!!

I knew you'd be back and that you'd find a way to beat the depression. No words of encouragement here, just happy emoticons! :) =) :D =D :] =] :}=}

Did I get them all? Ok, I'm done.

Todd said...

Love and huge virtual hugs coming your way.

Please continue to stay vigilant and take care of yourself, and don't be afraid to ask for help again if you need it. My stepdad ended his life because he wasn't able to tell anyone how bad he'd been feeling. The fact that you're able to discuss these things, especially in such a candid and public way, is a very good sign. Thank you for sharing. We're all rooting for you.

XOXOXO

Michael Muto said...

YES! That about sums it up!

matthew said...

good job man. you used your talent and humor to explain what this kind of mental illness feels like in a really compelling way. you helped other people by helping the people in their life understand them. that matters!

Zena Zee said...

This is one of the best descriptions of depression I've ever seen, and I'm currently going through it myself. Have been for a while now. Next time people ask, I'm just going to send them this.

I'm so happy you're doing better, even if that is a relative term. I'm glad you're back, and wish you luck and well in become yourself again.

I've started telling people I'm "suicidal" matter-of-factly, because why not? I don't want to be alive, but I don't want to make the effort to kill myself, so I'm waiting for it to just end. Eventually. I'm only trying, a little, at life because I have the vague idea I'm supposed to. Somethings can make me happy, so I guess I'm doing better (yay medication) but some days, weeks at a time, months at a time, it's that feeling of nothing. Numb. I cried without knowing why, because I felt nothing.

Thank you so much, thank you for existing and being alive and posting here. I can't guarantee everything will turn out okay in the end, hell, I don't know if you're going to read this, but even if all directions are bullshit, maybe, eventually, the world will just run out of bad things to throw at you. That's my hope anyway, if I'm capable of still feeling hope.
-Me <3

Anonymous said...

Thank you, Allie! This post is all so, so true and are my feelings finally put into words. Thanks for making me not feel so alone.

Anonymous said...

Thank you so, so much.

Ino the Mighty said...

welp, clearly all anyone will ever have to do to explain what depression is like is link them to this page. done. now you know, mr not depressed. =|

Heather said...

1. I can't describe how happy I am to see you back and to know that you're okay.

2. I also can't describe how much you nailed what I've been feeling lately. Especially the internal coaching needed to register an appropriate emotion. I feel completely numb inside. It may be related to my meds, though, so I'm seeing a doc on Tuesday. But thank you for putting this experience into words. It's horrible.

Be well...

Anonymous said...

Thank you. Last night I had a moment of clarity, realizing that the desire to no longer be alive, was in fact, not a reasonable reaction to being alive. It felt REALLY good to laugh at those feelings this morning. I am going to get help, and knowing I am not alone in the wasteland helps against the hopeless bullshit.

Anonymous said...

Are you me? I swear this is like I'm reading my memories written down by someone else. It's still hard to relate to others, but I'm getting there. Glad to hear it's going better for you as well!

Anonymous said...

I am in the exact same situation as you have been. I can't feel anything. I don't go out with people anymore because I'm unable to relate to anything they say or want to do. I want to end it, all the time. I desperately need to hospitalize myself, but I can't afford it, and also I'm afraid my boyfriend will stop loving me if he finds out. I don't want to keep going. But reading that you had the same non-feelings as I have, and that you are able to start getting better, gives me hope. Something I havn't had in a long time. Thank you for writing this.

Myra said...

Hahaha, this is fantastic! How accurate!!!!

Anonymous said...

This was one of the greatest things I have ever read. I cannot put into words how much this means to me.

Thank you.

Anonymous said...

I can completely relate - I've been in your shoes before & you've described it so well.
Glad you're back - I love your storytelling and wonky humor
Linzi

Unknown said...

Thank you so much for sharing, Allie. I really needed to read this.

And I'm so glad you're able to feel hope-like feelings again. You're a beautiful person, and you deserve to feel that.

Def said...

It's okay. I also live in a dark void bereft of feelings alot.

Tyler said...

Not a word was wasted and not a word was missing from this. You put a name to something I haven't yet been able to process fully for myself which helps me in some strange way to start to deal with it. I think that's worth something.

Shawndy said...

I'm really glad that your feels are starting to come back, and hope that things line up again for you. It's nice to see you again!! :o)

Felixitous said...

I'm glad to see things are improving in any way for you c: This really hits home, for me and my girlfriend. I don't really know why it's comforting, but it is. Thanks, I guess. Welcome back.

Murk said...

Yes. This. A thousand times this and more. I'm sorry about your dead fish, and I hope you continue to find replacement fish even if they make you laugh hysterically at floor corn. And, fish or no fish, you are amazing.

Unknown said...

From now on, I will find corn funny, thanks for that.
Happy you're back!

ChaosRu said...

I am frequently in the grip of depression, too, although never this unfathomably deep. I am so glad you are back.

Your fish metaphor was absolutely brilliant.

Anonymous said...

Wonderfully done. As someone with depression, I am now angry that you can describe it better than I can.

Anonymous said...

Thanks so much for making these. Your first depression comic was actually the thing that got me to seek treatment for my own depression - the "HA my life is exactly like Hyperbole and a Half" jokes suddenly got uncomfortably real. SO HEY. You're making insanely great comics, you're kicking your depression's ass, AND you got a random grad student to start taking meds and stop numbly staring at the ceiling for hours. YOU ARE A HERO, THANK YOU.

Anonymous said...

Just here to say I cried of laughter because of that bit about the piece of corn... All truths.

Tiaja said...

Thank you so much for writing this. Depression is probably one of the least creative places a person can be. It's part of the reason that it is so difficult to explain to people. But you've artfully expressed what depression is like for you, and that is such an incredible and beautiful feat.

Meriwether_R said...

Like others have said, I've totally been here before and think you've provided a better description in both of your posts on depression than I've seen anywhere else. This is coming from a soon-to-be counselor, and I can say that none of the theory textbooks have ever been close to encapsulating the experience. I've been surprised to find some of the techniques that some (key word) of my peers in my master's program think would work for someone as down as I was at one point -- it was obvious that they were clueless.

I think the most helpful thing for me has been to reframe depression as grief. In the clients I have worked with, this experiment has held up thus far, as this word usually resonates with most of the depressed people I've worked with. From my personal experience with it, I believe this is because the implication of the word "grief" over "depression" is that grief gives the sense that it's something to work through rather than get around. I remember a nagging frustration when people would try to cheer me up that there was a complete misunderstanding of the nature of the thing. And I realize now that I sensed that there were deeper roots to the problem than were being acknowledged by others. My biggest turning point, then, may have been acknowledging that I had grieving to do and that I was going to do it.

I found that people were more sympathetic to me when I called my state a grieving process rather than depression as well. The word "depression" also has more of a medical feel to it, which in our society makes people think in quick fixes. I absolutely believe that there was a chemical change in my brain after having unresolved grief for so long, and I did need medication to reset these as well. However, I never would have come out of the state completely without acknowledging that I had grieving to do.

For me, this was something as simple as grieving my parents' divorce. Something that I felt ridiculous for being so affected by, considering how commonplace this is in our culture. However, I was never really given the space to grieve it, as I was somehow nonverbally deemed the strong one during the ordeal. Through my own therapy (both individual and with my wife and dad), I was able to actively grieve this and discuss it with my family.

I want to be careful not to assume that my story is the case for everyone else out there, but in my experience thus far as a counseling intern, comparing my experience with others, it has thus far held true that at least a majority of depression is unresolved grief. As I mentioned in my case, this can cause chemical changes in the brain that only serve to keep you more stuck, so medication may be the first step. However, I would encourage those of you out there who are going through this horrible beast named depression to evaluate what in your life you might have to grieve and to grieve it unabashedly.

Eli said...

I am so glad that you are back, and I know that this might sound corny and lame sauce, but the way that you've explained depression and just the bluntness of it is so encouraging to me right now. The not being able to care is something I haven't been able to pinpoint for a while, and other humans just don't get it. I hope that you continue on the road of "recovery", which again, sounds lame, but it's the best way I can convey my hopes that things become less bull then they are now for you. Hang in there, and know that - even though you can't see us or know us - you have THOUSANDS of creepy people who want to be a part of your life and absolutely love you and everything that you share with us, because we're creepy like that. Peace, girly!

e said...

I heart the corn!

I heart you, Allie, welcome back. Sorry the pretend fish are dead. Super glad that you are not.

xoxoxoxooxxo

Anonymous said...

Thank you for writing this, Allie. My Aunt has been clinically depressed her entire life and is going through a particularly bad bout right now. My Mom (her sister) is trying to help, but has never dealt with depression herself, so doesn't know what to do. I've sent this along to my Mom to help her understand what my Aunt is going through. Again, thank you so much for being so candid, and please keep fighting.

Unknown said...

See I laughed at this just like I laughed at the first depression post because I have been there and done that. I suspect my husband wil be horrified again.

I'm stable now and can seem almost normal. It's not all flowers and rainbows but there is a grim satisfaction in pulling yourself out of the pit. Keep going, we missed you :)

Heather said...

your post was outstanding. you've fought the battle and you've earned the scars to show how hard you fought. I admire the hell out of you... not just because I can relate to your depression, but because you took the huge step of taking leave from us, and then the even more huge step of coming back. you are the most amazing person I know right now. I was in a bad place today, and because of you, I feel better... thank you my hero! :-)

Anonymous said...

So happy you're back! Stay strong kiddo :D also, yoga with sunrises, not all its cracked up to be anyway

David Stein said...

Having been through similar bouts, I'll say the only thing that has any meaning for your condition: I understand.

Welcome back. :)

Rebecca said...

Allie, as so many others have said, simply Thank You. Your description is letter-perfect at every step. The total anhedonia, the dead fish, the inexplicable kernel of corn - all of it, spot-on. I'm so sorry you've been in crappy depression-land, and I feel really selfish for how grateful I am that you've produced something that the rest of us can direct well-meaning friends to and say, "THIS. THIS is what I'm living. Read it, get it, and stop trying to fix my dead fish."

Thank you so much for your awesomeness. Be well -

Kristina said...

Your blog was my corn. So you know...stuff.

BreeT said...

After squeeing all over the internet about how happy I am you've returned, I sat down to read this and... it's a wonderfully, scarily accurate depiction of depression.

So glad you chose to come back, and share this with the interwebs.
Thank you for being you.

Ayameow said...

I almost wrote you several times over the past year. In fact, I think I have several versions saved in my draft email. Never sent them. Mainly probably because of crazed social anxiety about trying to write someone I don't actually know: wondering. So um, yeah. Glad to see you around.

Anonymous said...

So glad to have you back. Thank you for sharing all of this. Also, for me bubbles were my shrivelled up corn. :)

colleen said...

Allie, it is good to see you back. Corn is some funny shit, keep laughing. xoxo

Christy@SweetandSavoring said...

I got out of the shower a few minutes before reading this. The combination of my hair dripping and the tears falling from my face both hitting my legs was...strange.

Thank you. I'm proud of you for getting help and writing about it. This speaks to me, so much. <3

Penuski said...

I've tried so hard to explain this to people before and I usually give up. Here you are making it so clear and also so funny. Glad to have you back blogging. This may sound weird, but if you ever need to talk to someone who will answer with "yeah, I know, sometimes everything sucks or is just pointless" drop me a line.

Chelsea Rae said...

I truly love this post, I'm so happy that you're back, and I will be passing this post on to anyone who asks me what depression is like in the future. Stay well and thank you so much for the glorious post.

Anonymous said...

That took a lot of guts to share - thank you!!! Depression runs in my family. My mom, sisters, uncle, my 2 sons all are on anti-depressents. My oldest son tried to kill himself at age 14, thankfully he had a girlfriend that cared enough to go to her mom and told her, who then came to me. He's doing awesome now (he's 23)... know that you will be whole and awesome again too. You are lucky to have a HUGE support group!

Cheryl said...

It's completely irrational, because you're a stranger I'm not entirely sure you're... human. Okay, that was a joke, but still... I've been so worried about a freaking stranger. Your words have lifted me up, helped me relate to others' lives, and made me laugh (or at least smile) that your absence caused me to worry many, many times and even pray for you a couple of weeks ago when I wondered if you were alive. I'm glad you're alive. It takes a great deal of strength and endurance to deal with that kind of psychological trauma, and it will help you be even stronger as time goes on. Really though, I'm glad you posted.

Sarah said...

Welcome back. Ya gotta keep looking for the odd, random, shriveled pieces of corn in this world. You just gotta.

Rhonda said...

I'm so very glad to see you back, Allie. I've been in that bullshit hope spot. Many thoughts and warm fuzzies heading your way <3

qubodup said...

1. I love you
2. Because you're inspiring

Unknown said...

All of this. Yes. Every bit. Except the corn. I think I laughed at grass. Or something. Anyway. SPOT ON.

You rock. And I think you might be onto something. Maybe it ISN'T all hopeless bullshit. It's something to work with anyway.

<3

Anonymous said...

Well, this made me cry far more than I expected. For those who have never experienced true, clinical, suicidal depression, they should consider themselves lucky. It's not "having a bad day." It's not even having a bad week. It's something that invades you down to your cellular structure and rips years of your life away, against your constant protestation. It destroys your friendships, because some people are determined that you just WANT to be sad. It creates vast, insurmountable canyons of loneliness, between you and anyone else with a pulse.

As you said in your last post, sometimes there's no reason for it, and that, somehow, makes it even worse, when you have no way to justify your sadness and nothing or no one to blame it on. It makes everything seem so fruitless and worthless.

I'm glad you found the corn. I can no longer pinpoint when I found my "corn," when my depression finally dissipated. I have no idea when it will be back. For the time being, I'm surrounding myself in corn and trying not to be haunted by depression's unexpected and constantly untimely arrival. And it will be back. It always comes back. I'm just trying to make the most I can, with the time I have. It's like repeatedly experiencing death when it comes back. You're doomed to wander the earth as a corpse, yet everyone keeps talking to you like you're normal, until you're granted freedom and the privilege to be imbued with life and emotions once again. It's a terrible, vicious, shit-filled cycle.

Glad you're back. You truly are a beacon and an outlet of humor for so many of us, whether you want those titles or not. I'm just glad you're finding your way. It takes time, and there's always the potential to backslide. (Yes, it would be easier if there was a handbook to this shit. Depression for the Depressed, perhaps?) But you're still working your way through the fog, and all I can tell you is good luck. I, too, hope everything isn't hopeless bullshit. =)

Heather said...

your post was outstanding. you've fought the battle and you've earned the scars to show how hard you fought. I admire the hell out of you... not just because I can relate to your depression, but because you took the huge step of taking leave from us, and then the even more huge step of coming back. you are the most amazing person I know right now. I was in a bad place today, and because of you, I feel better... thank you my hero! :-)

Gracee said...

We love you!

MollieRMS said...

I did laugh. And I cried a little. So keep 'em coming, and we'll be here to take it all in.

Kat said...

I don't think I've read any other attempt to describe what depression is like that I actually found to be relatively accurate. I only say relatively because each and every person feels - or doesn't feel - things differently, and I never like to say "I KNOW HOW YOU FEEL" for that reason. But the essence of your not-feeling description was so dead-on. Dead-on. Yep.

I don't know that I've found my "piece of corn" so precisely; sometimes I think the moment when things start to suck less is not so pivotal and immediate, but slow and gradual. Or maybe it's still out there, waiting for me.

All personal relating aside, as usual the update was brilliant and insightful, and wonderfully written. Glad to hear you've found that upward slope. Also glad you're still writing marvelous things on the Internetz.

We still like you, no matter what.

Leslie said...

Thank you :)

Linkums said...

It's been six years and I need to find some corn.

Anonymous said...

So glad you're back. So glad you're getting better. So grateful for this post because my boyfriend is going through this right now, and I feel confused and shut out and not helpful. He's getting help and I think he's getting better, but this has helped me at least get closer to understanding what he's dealing with. I can't wait for more posts and I hope you continue getting healthy.

Anonymous said...

I am so grateful you are back! You describe the void perfectly--it is the loneliest place of all. You've been in my prayers.

Grimsqueaker said...

Just adding my voice to the rest of the Internet being ecstatic that you are back. :) Thank you for existing as a being with whom I can empathize so directly.

"I don't necessarily want to kill myself... I just want to become dead somehow."
How are you inside my head??? That is something one either understands or doesn't, I'm not sure it can be explained.

Isaac said...

Thank you.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for doing this, it's perfect. Maybe we should have a badge or something to wear that says: "stop asking me how I am" or; "no you can't fix it, please don't try, you will just end up frustrated." or; "Warning - Anything this person says may leave you confused and slightly alarmed". It certainly would have helped me sidestep some of those awkward conversations with friends.

Anonymous said...

This was very moving. Thank you for sharing your experience. I can only state how incredibly talented you are that you can translate something indecipherable to most and so hard into something both moving and funny.
You made my day.

Momcat said...

Depression sucks all the "givashit" out of you. I know. I have to take a "Givashit" pill every day just to give even the tiniest of shits about almost everything. Then I have to take a "Getshitdone" pill, to be able to go do the things I am now capable of giving a shit about.

It works though, mostly. I still have days where I can't find any shits to give, but then there are dogs. Dogs don't allow you to not give a shit. If you have no shits to give, they will happily give you some of theirs.

Anyway; I'm glad you seem to have managed to make it back to the top tier of the abyss. {{virtual not creepy at all hugs from a random stranger}}

I hope you find your hope soon.

Shauna said...

Dear wonderful, wonderful Allie,

Thank you, more than I can ever express, for sharing all of this with us. Thank you for the honesty that makes me love everything you have ever written because it is REAL.

I have ADHD, and my girlfriend has anxiety and depression, so we both send you our love and empathy as you deal with the roller-coaster of brain chemistry. This post, and your first one about depression, have been my window into understanding what my girlfriend's world is like. I'm usually one of those relentlessly positive people, and I know that so many of my intuitive reactions to her symptoms are not helpful to her. So I want to thank you profusely for painting a picture we could both relate to and learn from.

You are a truly remarkable person. I love you and everything you have ever posted. I am so glad to see these new posts from you and to have a glimpse of how you are doing, even though it's still not where you would rather be. Every day I send you thoughts and hugs, with the wish that there will be more corn kernels. I can't even write how much love and gratitude I am sending to you. Thank you, thank you, thank you.

Unknown said...

I'm SO GLAD you're back. Seriously, seeing this post made my whole day better. Thanks.

Rhonda said...

Also, I wanted to thank you for mentioning the difference between killing yourself and wanting to die. So very true and so very overlooked in these discussions.

Dave Jones said...

Interesting how it is different for everyone. Here's what I wrote to Tumblr last night:

I don’t understand…

I have a good job, a nice home and a wonderful wife. I truly have everything I could want. I have a great family, and two very, very special friends.

So why do I feel every second of every day that I am verge of tears, that no one cares even though I know they do? That I always have ideas tumbling around of putting a bullet in my own brain? That I’m all alone and things will never get better? That I go the doctor every week and have to tell him that I am the same as my illness, that it is not something I have, it is something I am? That no one will truly understand or they will judge or try to lock me away and so I have to put on a happy face and work so damned hard at being fine fine fine?

That’s what depression is like, what being me is like. (I'm bipolar, though, not strictly depressed)

Anonymous said...

I love you, Allie. Missed you <3 :)

Kristie said...

Welcome back- we missed you. I'm sorry you got trapped in the dull gray sponge of nothingness. Thank you for writing about it- I tend to be the Glad Good Fairy of Sparkly Hope and the Dance of Joy, and you've helped me to see that there are important times to just say, "Wow, that really sucks. I'm sorry your fish are so really, very dead." I think I'll cook some corn today, in celebration of your tale. My family may wonder why the corn makes me smile, but I think I'll just let them wonder. :)

Anonymous said...

I like to think I'm on the upswing of depression now, although I don't think it was as severe as yours. For a little over a year I lost myself. It didn't help that we were in terrible debt, and school was crushing. I didn't even try to maintain my connections, I just withdrew. I never told anyone how I was feeling, I just walked through that desert every day alone. I thought every day about how nice it would be to simply stop. Sit down and never get back up. Suicide would inconvenience those around me too much. And then I found my piece of corn. I lost my job. It was totally fair, for the last year I had been withdrawn and detached at work and not had the best attendance record. But for some reason I was mad. Not at the company, not even at myself. I think that ancient survival instinct kicked in and suddenly, for the first time in over a year, I had a real, strong emotion. I took a step back and was indignant of the situation in which I found myself. My life had been in a serious downward spiral completely of my own design (Almost failed out of school). I'd known it for months but somehow never been able to change anything. On that day something inside me rebelled. I finally had the push I needed.
Today, I've been happier, I found a new job, appealed my failing out of school successfully, and am attempting to ace these finals right now. Today, while reading your post I also realized for the first time that I've been struggling with depression my entire life. I remember being 5 and telling my mother definitively that Santa Claus was bullshit. Being 8 and trying to convince my classmates that life was meaningless. Being 10 and getting suspended for fighting. Being 12 getting thrown out by every counselor in town. When I think about it now the signs have been there for as long as I can remember. All I can say is "Thank you" You don't just provide hours of entertainment and adorable drawings, but real insight in to life. I wish I could help you out of your desert, but I couldn't even tell you how I found the slow path out of mine. All I can say is that you are a wonderful person for all that you've done, and I hope some day you wake up and are able to see that for yourself again. Thank You

Anonymous said...

I MISSED YOU.

Anonymous said...

gosh I'm so happy you're back!!!!

zak said...

Holy shit that's a lot of comments.

But only ONE CORN!

Steph said...

I'm laughing and sad crying and sympathetically smiling all at the same time, and then crying again because of the irony of having all these emotional responses to this post. I'm going to go wash my face now.

It's so wonderful to have you back.

Rose said...

"No, see, I don't necessarily want to KILL myself... I just want to become dead somehow." I never thought there would be anyone who could understand this let alone feel the same way. Thank you, Allie, for being so brave and putting this out there. There is something special about a person like you who can put such indescribable things into words. Even though you might not have people in your life who understand, there are people out there in the world who do.

Momblin said...

So glad to see you back! I've never experienced depression myself, but have lived with someone who has. It is a terrible jouirney from the dark back into the light. Good luck to you!

Anonymous said...

Based on your description of depression, I think I may have gone through it at some point in my life. Maybe not full blown depression, but for about a year or so I just...didn't. I didn't anything. Couldn't really feel much and I was really confused as to way. My parents were as well but I refused to accept there was something wrong. It'll pass. Eventually.

And to be frank, yes, it did pass. But it was really hard. I would sit in my room for hours on end, just staring at the ceiling with my tv droning in the background. Everything just felt so...dull, I guess. I rarely talked to anyone, I drew myself in more, and just started not wanting to interact with people.

I never fully reached the suicidal part, but I did feel a "not wanting to be" kinda thing. Then...I snapped. People were daring me to hit them while I was on the bus, so when we got off I just grabbed a tree branch and screamed at them. They ran, I smashed the branch apart then went home and just felt anger.

Like Allie said. Being told it gets better sucks. Sometimes it does, but it's not fun. Just know that not everything is shit. Not everyone is shit. And you're not alone.

Anonymous said...

CORN. :)

Cranberry Mars said...

The voice of Charlie Brown is on TV crying and going to rehab after stalking a plastic surgeon. ALSO, this graphic short story is a SHEER WORK OF GENIUS.

Surviving Limbo said...

I can't even process how perfect this is! You nailed it and probably have given a great deal of solace and relief to a number of people who are in the thick of it. I made it out as well. But, oh wow was it impossible to convey what was happening, to get help, and to find insight that didn't patronize and arouse shame for my inability to be positive.

I'm seriously humbled by how good this is. Wish I had written it (never mind the AMAZING illustrations).

And by the way, as much as is humanly possible, I think I get the kernel of corn thing! At least in my own way.

Glad you made it back. :)

CJ said...

First off, welcome back, I'm really glad to read more posts by you.

Second, thank you.
There is a time in my life that I think I might have been on the borderline of depression. However, I was young, so for better or for worse, it got brushed off, yet I got through it. Nevertheless, those early feelings you mentioned resonate with me.

At the moment, though, I have friends who have depression, and while I thought I could kind of relate, I never understood the full extent of their feelings, nor whether what I was saying/doing was helping or hurting. I know not everyone is the same, but your post has given me some things to think about.

So I repeat, Thank You.

(Also *internet hugs*, just because.)

Anonymous said...

This is the most insightful thing I've ever read about depression. The internet really IS a better place when you're in it, and this post might have just made me a better person.

mamacasz said...

Damn glad that Cloorn found you. Laughing along side of you. Feeling hopeful and happy that you're back.

Beth Stoneman said...

I've never been there, but from what I've seen from my mom, this was scary accurate. I cried during parts of this, and just like you said I would on your previous post, I laughed and felt wrong about it, but I think the laughter was okay. I'm glad things are turning up for you, and I hope they continue to do so. I fell in love with your blog while you were on your hiatus. It's good to see you post again.

Andi said...

THANK YOU! Thank you for surviving and writing this. Every dark place that I have been through thanks you for giving it the voice, validation and explanation that I never could.

Anne said...

This is amazing. If you don't mind, I would like to share it with my Intro to Psychology classes.

Anonymous said...

I was in that hole many years ago. Spent a couple years there, wondering why god put me on this planet, what was wrong with me, why couldn't I be gone, dead, over with this. My folks saw I was teetering on the brink, so they sent me to a lady who gave me an alternate set of thoughts that were equally as valid as mine, and I used her tools to crawl out, finally. I hope you will find tools that will work for you. It's definitely a good life for me now, and I'm glad I survived. I will think of you, and send you invisible support, but you can feel it if you try. <3

Anonymous said...

Thank you. For being brave.

Run for President?

A Western Guy

Pearl said...

thank you, no one else could see my dead fish.

Glad the corn could give you a kernel of something shiny in the distance.

Nice to hear your POV again.

Anonymous said...

So brave of you to post, and we're all so happy you've returned. This post was more than some of your previous posts that gave readers a momentary joy, this post was hope. You may not see it, Allie, but this piece impacts others. Thank you.

Sarah said...

I'm so happy you're back! I hope you continue to work through things, the world is a better place with you in it. :) Mine is, anyway. I know you don't know me...So maybe that doesn't matter...Anyways, you make me happy. I hope you find what makes you happy again.

Kate said...

Welcome back, the Internet missed you!

And may I just say, I have been having the same dead-fish-solution problem, and now I'm just going to show people this post. This is brilliant and I love you forever.

May the corn be with you.

Blah said...

Allie, Thank you so much for sharing this with us. I have never heard someone describe depression better. I've totally been in the place of not wanting to kill myself, but not wanting to be alive anymore. I'm not quite there anymore, but the blank, mind numbing bleakness rears its ugly head from time to time.

Thank you for being brave enough to share this chapter of your life with us. I certainly love you all the more for it, and just want to give you the biggest hug. Bravo for having the energy to be able to write and draw - I know it takes shit-tons of energy.

I am so glad you're back. Thank you just for being you, and for making my life, and the lives of many others that lil bit brighter.

vanessa aleji said...

I think I've finally figured out why I love the word "cornhole." In one post, you've managed to explain something I've struggled to articulate since I was in the womb. Allie Brosh, I love you! Glad you're on the upswing of a downward spiral. I hope it keeps getting better. Thank you for sharing!

Vanessa Lozada

Shauna said...

Also, you have probably been sent this dozens of time, but just in case I wanted to be sure you saw it. She's writing from a similar place that you are, and my girlfriend found it really helpful:
http://www.diycouturier.com/post/47249603128/21-tips-to-keep-your-shit-together-when-youre

Faye said...

It really takes a strong person to find humor in their pain and humor that people can relate to at that. I laughed hysterically while being close to tears through much of this because I UNDERSTAND SO MUCH ALL OF YOUR WORDS. I think you are awesome and welcome back!

Anonymous said...

I was nodding my head through this whole post, I can relate to every little piece of it. Although I'm not sure what exactly was my piece of corn under the fridge, I can say that things did (and have) turned around. So, just know that it can happen for you too!

Stefanie Snider said...

Welcome back. I missed you.

Anonymous said...

So glad you're back. Walk towards the light... the light of the living. Sharing your experience and giving others hope will help heal you too.

Anonymous said...

I am glad you got help. I understand. Best of luck.

Paige said...

This was so riveting that I almost missed my bus stop -- even though I was only riding for two stops up a big hill.

In other words, thank you for this, and for being courageous enough to talk about it so openly.

Anonymous said...

I've never heard IT explained better! Thank-you and good luck.

Rebecca said...

So glad you're back! Thank you for sharing your story with us! <3

Muthahun said...

Of all the treatises on depression I've ever read, this is just THE BEST. Plus, it's freakin' illustrated!! I hope that your brain is allowing you to feel appreciated again. And useful! So very useful! I hope your brain can get wrapped around the kernel of truth (yes, that's a corn reference) that you are not only talented, you are also courageous. I'm off to pop corn and toss a piece beneath my fridge in your honor.

KB said...

Yes. This. Thank you for writing this.

The fish metaphor is perfect... as is the "Are you TAUNTING me?" graphic! ♥♥♥ I had several *coff* friends who acted like giant, desperate happiness sprinklers when I went through my last severe bout of depression. They've since stopped talking at me - more or less. I think I'm better off.

Glad you found that piece of corn!

DirtyBlue929 said...

*Getting Dressed, dum-dee-doo*

Mom: OH MY GOD, ALLIE POSTED!

Me: WHAT?!

*Sprints to the computer*

Me: HOLY FUCK!!!

I just wanna say, my mom checked your blog every day. EVERY. DAY. Just in case. It paid off.

I know exactly what you're going through - that's why I find all your posts so great. You put all these things that I can't put into words because I'm not creative enough, and you not only express them in a way that gets the message across PERFECTLY, but you manage to make them the most hilarious things since chickens decided to start crossing roads.

No matter what happens, we support you. We understand you. Some more than others.

Anonymous said...

Thank you. I've been there. It really, really sucks.

"The problem might not even have a solution. But you aren't necessarily looking for solutions. You're maybe just looking for someone to say "sorry about how dead your fish are" or "wow, those are super dead. I still like you, though.""

I completely understand this. I've told people, "No, you can't fix it. I don't even want you to try and fix it. I just want a hug." You can't analyze depression, because like you said, it's *nothing*. You can't analyze, fix, or remove nothing. It just *is*.

I don't want to offer something syrupy optimistic, because I know that doesn't really help. I just want to say, thank you, for explaining this in a way that is so much more eloquent than I ever could, in a way that I can share with others, so maybe they will know to give hugs, and not go looking for the dead fish.

Shannon said...

I laughed, I cried, I related, I shared. I'm really glad to see you back.

Shannon said...

I laughed, I cried, I related, I shared. I'm really glad to see you back.

Tolkien Polyglot said...

I woke up kind of depressed today for a number of reasons. Then I read this post. So I looked under my refrigerator. I found the torso of a long-dead cockroach. ... it definitely did fuck up my pity party, but not in an exciting way. More like a OH MY GOD IT COULD MAYBE STILL TWITCH GET OUT NOOOOOOWWWWWWWW sort of way. :3

Anonymous said...

I'm so glad to see you.

Robyn said...

Thank you so much for posting this. You've captured so much so well, whether you think so or not. So many parts resonated with my own battles with depression and things. I hope you are able to stick around more. You're an awesome, truthful, honest person and you have such a way with words and MS paint that just speaks to so many.

I know it's dumb to say you aren't alone when you feel so very alone, but there are a lot of us who have felt this and could never put it so perfectly as you just did. You're so much more than you think. I hope you come around more often, you were very missed!

Gracee said...

Corn is fucking hilarious, OBVIOUSLY. There is no other reason necessary to laugh at it.

Unless maybe that corn was like you and you were laughing at all the bullshit that was making it shrivel up by itself under the refrigerator.

hartman said...

Thank you! I wish people could see the dead fish, but I'm happy they don't have to experience it too...

Again, thank you for your words. May you continue to find pieces of corn!

(ps, as a therapist, I really hope you have someone -- not an optimistic friend -- to talk to! Sometimes just expressing nothingness can be helpful.) :)

So glad you're back!

Anonymous said...

I am impressed with the outpouring of comments on this post. We all missed you out here in the interwebs.

Anonymous said...

I feel like I should go and look for my piece of corn...
...but I can't be bothered :(

Anonymous said...

I sort of hate how well I can relate to this, but I guess I find some comfort in knowing I'm alone. I think it's pretty terrifying to admit your depressed, and probably more so to do it so publicly, but I appreciate your honesty. Thanks for explaining how so many of us feel and suffer quietly or deny all together. I sincerely hope that you get better.

maynwinter said...

I don't know why, but that corn totally IS funny. It's supposed to be corn! Why is it being there? You can't ever know how corn got under the fridge!

Chris DB said...

You just blew my mind away with so much of how I feel. I've yet to find my piece of corn, but everything else is so spot on.

I hope you are doing well, and thank you so much for this beautiful piece of work.

Jessica Stillie said...

Thank you Allie for this entry. You have taken the words out of my crazy-filled brain. I still feel like it's all bullshit, but bullshit that may at times be exciting or...not the current bullshit I'm feeling...which is a plus. <--- look! a positive word! yaaaaaaaaay. It's been awhile since I've used one of those.
Also Allie, I'm glad you're back and so is everyone else BUT... don't feel pressured to do more than you can. I know how all the compliments and such can put a damper on things if you already feel like poop. I know it wouldn't be intentional grief, but more so the "I just can't do it but everyone wants me to do it so I really should do it". Only do what you can, when you can, if you can. We'll support you.
Thanks again Allie for communicating my innards so well.

Schnauzer said...

Your two depression posts put into words what a lot of people can't say.

Anonymous said...

That was beautiful. And so nice to know that someone else gets it.

Anonymous said...

Wow, I'm so glad I read this today. I laughed till I cried over your "I'm interacting with you" line, I loved it. This whole article comforted me, and you should know that you really helped me today. Thank you :)

Pete Darby said...

Well, I just laughed out loud at the corn bit. Because, oh sweet jeebus yes. Now the students in the library are looking at me funny. FUCK YOU STUDENTS. Love, the IT Helpdesk Guy.

Miss Mary said...

Excellent. Excellent for my own selfish reasons of missing your opint of view and excellent for you. Excellent. And corn.

Anonymous said...

Welcome back, slowly and steadly!

Thank you, piece of corn!

Anonymous said...

Im sorry your fish are dead. Im glad that you aren't. I hope you're still climbing up. Also, i like you. Feel better.

Anonymous said...

Brilliant. Sad. Hilarious. Motivating.

Anonymous said...

I thought the corn was VERY funny. Then again, I laughed at weirder things. Once I was home sick so my dad decided to use me to help build the kitchen. We got the sink stuck because it was half a centimeter too big. It was just floating there crooked and I laughed for about fifteen minutes before my dad sent me back to bed.

Olga said...

So glad to have you back, Allie!

I can relate to this so much, and it feels comforting to know someone else has gone through the same things at some point in their life. Thank you for posting this and I hope you get better soon.

Anonymous said...

Thanks for being brave and sharing this with us. The way you described how it is to interact with non-depressed folks is spot on. Dead fish metaphor rocks! *hugs*

Sol said...

you made your last post on depression right around the time i was starting to suspect something might be wrong with me. Other friends read it at the time and laughed a lot, and I just. stared. Because it wasn't funny to me, because it hit too close to home, because I couldn't feel anything anymore.

And up to that point H&AH had been A Big Thing for me and my mom. Usually the things I find hilarious was merely a tickling amusement to her, but we would both laugh until we cried at every post.

During your hiatus I was struggling with depression for well over a year. At one point my mom sent me a mug from your shop, the one that says "responsibility champion: i get shit done!" And I just lay there, tears leaking out of my eyes because it wasn't true, I didn't care enough to get shit done. I don't have to go into it because you know there's too much to sum up, that the experience can't be covered in a blog comment, but it. was rough.

I've been in recovery for the past six months. And I'm really glad to see you back, and I hope that the same can happen for you. I'm not gonna give you platitudes because fuck that shit, but thank you. I laughed at this post, I cried at this post, and I'm just. you get it. And while I wouldn't wish this on anyone, it's nice when people get it. Thank you for getting it, for being funny and for not being funny when you're not up to it.

Kristin Ingersoll said...

WORD! I am so glad you're back. I'm in that fecking wasteland right now. I gotta go check under my fridge... NOW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Anonymous said...

Yea corn!

Anonymous said...

Thank you. Besides enjoying and relating to your last two posts, I am so happy to hear that you have sought out help. Like everyone else, laughter and tears.

Anonymous said...

I am so happy you posted again. Stay healthy!

Anonymous said...

Illuminating.

This will help me be a better friend to the people in my life who are suffering (or faced with the endless expanse of nothing) with depression.

Thank you.

Allison said...

So glad you're still around. I'm sorry you've had to go through that - what a shitstorm. Yay corn!

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