Depression Part Two

I remember being endlessly entertained by the adventures of my toys. Some days they died repeated, violent deaths, other days they traveled to space or discussed my swim lessons and how I absolutely should be allowed in the deep end of the pool, especially since I was such a talented doggy-paddler.


I didn't understand why it was fun for me, it just was.


But as I grew older, it became harder and harder to access that expansive imaginary space that made my toys fun. I remember looking at them and feeling sort of frustrated and confused that things weren't the same.


I played out all the same story lines that had been fun before, but the meaning had disappeared. Horse's Big Space Adventure transformed into holding a plastic horse in the air, hoping it would somehow be enjoyable for me. Prehistoric Crazy-Bus Death Ride was just smashing a toy bus full of dinosaurs into the wall while feeling sort of bored and unfulfilled.  I could no longer connect to my toys in a way that allowed me to participate in the experience.


Depression feels almost exactly like that, except about everything.

At first, though, the invulnerability that accompanied the detachment was exhilarating. At least as exhilarating as something can be without involving real emotions.


The beginning of my depression had been nothing but feelings, so the emotional deadening that followed was a welcome relief.  I had always wanted to not give a fuck about anything. I viewed feelings as a weakness — annoying obstacles on my quest for total power over myself. And I finally didn't have to feel them anymore.

But my experiences slowly flattened and blended together until it became obvious that there's a huge difference between not giving a fuck and not being able to give a fuck. Cognitively, you might know that different things are happening to you, but they don't feel very different.


Which leads to horrible, soul-decaying boredom.



I tried to get out more, but most fun activities just left me existentially confused or frustrated with my inability to enjoy them.


Months oozed by, and I gradually came to accept that maybe enjoyment was not a thing I got to feel anymore. I didn't want anyone to know, though. I was still sort of uncomfortable about how bored and detached I felt around other people, and I was still holding out hope that the whole thing would spontaneously work itself out. As long as I could manage to not alienate anyone, everything might be okay!

However, I could no longer rely on genuine emotion to generate facial expressions, and when you have to spend every social interaction consciously manipulating your face into shapes that are only approximately the right ones, alienating people is inevitable.


Everyone noticed.


It's weird for people who still have feelings to be around depressed people. They try to help you have feelings again so things can go back to normal, and it's frustrating for them when that doesn't happen. From their perspective, it seems like there has got to be some untapped source of happiness within you that you've simply lost track of, and if you could just see how beautiful things are...


At first, I'd try to explain that it's not really negativity or sadness anymore, it's more just this detached, meaningless fog where you can't feel anything about anything — even the things you love, even fun things — and you're horribly bored and lonely, but since you've lost your ability to connect with any of the things that would normally make you feel less bored and lonely, you're stuck in the boring, lonely, meaningless void without anything to distract you from how boring, lonely, and meaningless it is.


But people want to help. So they try harder to make you feel hopeful and positive about the situation. You explain it again, hoping they'll try a less hope-centric approach, but re-explaining your total inability to experience joy inevitably sounds kind of negative; like maybe you WANT to be depressed. The positivity starts coming out in a spray — a giant, desperate happiness sprinkler pointed directly at your face. And it keeps going like that until you're having this weird argument where you're trying to convince the person that you are far too hopeless for hope just so they'll give up on their optimism crusade and let you go back to feeling bored and lonely by yourself.


And that's the most frustrating thing about depression. It isn't always something you can fight back against with hope. It isn't even something — it's nothing. And you can't combat nothing. You can't fill it up. You can't cover it. It's just there, pulling the meaning out of everything. That being the case, all the hopeful, proactive solutions start to sound completely insane in contrast to the scope of the problem.

It would be like having a bunch of dead fish, but no one around you will acknowledge that the fish are dead. Instead, they offer to help you look for the fish or try to help you figure out why they disappeared.


The problem might not even have a solution. But you aren't necessarily looking for solutions. You're maybe just looking for someone to say "sorry about how dead your fish are" or "wow, those are super dead. I still like you, though."


I started spending more time alone.


Perhaps it was because I lacked the emotional depth necessary to panic, or maybe my predicament didn't feel dramatic enough to make me suspicious, but I somehow managed to convince myself that everything was still under my control right up until I noticed myself wishing that nothing loved me so I wouldn't feel obligated to keep existing.


It's a strange moment when you realize that you don't want to be alive anymore. If I had feelings, I'm sure I would have felt surprised. I have spent the vast majority of my life actively attempting to survive. Ever since my most distant single-celled ancestor squiggled into existence, there has been an unbroken chain of things that wanted to stick around.


Yet there I was, casually wishing that I could stop existing in the same way you'd want to leave an empty room or mute an unbearably repetitive noise.


That wasn't the worst part, though. The worst part was deciding to keep going.


When I say that deciding to not kill myself was the worst part, I should clarify that I don't mean it in a retrospective sense. From where I am now, it seems like a solid enough decision. But at the time, it felt like I had been dragging myself through the most miserable, endless wasteland, and — far in the distance — I had seen the promising glimmer of a slightly less miserable wasteland. And for just a moment, I thought maybe I'd be able to stop and rest. But as soon as I arrived at the border of the less miserable wasteland, I found out that I'd have to turn around and walk back the other way.


Soon afterward, I discovered that there's no tactful or comfortable way to inform other people that you might be suicidal. And there's definitely no way to ask for help casually.


I didn't want it to be a big deal. However, it's an alarming subject. Trying to be nonchalant about it just makes it weird for everyone.


I was also extremely ill-prepared for the position of comforting people. The things that seemed reassuring at the time weren't necessarily comforting for others.


I had so very few feelings, and everyone else had so many, and it felt like they were having all of them in front of me at once. I didn't really know what to do, so I agreed to see a doctor so that everyone would stop having all of their feelings at me.


The next few weeks were a haze of talking to relentlessly hopeful people about my feelings that didn't exist so I could be prescribed medication that might help me have them again.


And every direction was bullshit for a really long time, especially up. The absurdity of working so hard to continue doing something you don't like can be overwhelming. And the longer it takes to feel different, the more it starts to seem like everything might actually be hopeless bullshit.


My feelings did start to return eventually. But not all of them came back, and they didn't arrive symmetrically.

I had not been able to care for a very long time, and when I finally started being able to care about things again, I HATED them. But hatred is technically a feeling, and my brain latched onto it like a child learning a new word.


Hating everything made all the positivity and hope feel even more unpalatable. The syrupy, over-simplified optimism started to feel almost offensive.


Thankfully, I rediscovered crying just before I got sick of hating things.  I call this emotion "crying" and not "sadness" because that's all it really was. Just crying for the sake of crying. My brain had partially learned how to be sad again, but it took the feeling out for a joy ride before it had learned how to use the brakes or steer.


At some point during this phase, I was crying on the kitchen floor for no reason. As was common practice during bouts of floor-crying, I was staring straight ahead at nothing in particular and feeling sort of weird about myself. Then, through the film of tears and nothingness, I spotted a tiny, shriveled piece of corn under the refrigerator.


I don't claim to know why this happened, but when I saw the piece of corn, something snapped. And then that thing twisted through a few permutations of logic that I don't understand, and produced the most confusing bout of uncontrollable, debilitating laughter that I have ever experienced.


I had absolutely no idea what was going on.


My brain had apparently been storing every unfelt scrap of happiness from the last nineteen months, and it had impulsively decided to unleash all of it at once in what would appear to be an act of vengeance.


That piece of corn is the funniest thing I have ever seen, and I cannot explain to anyone why it's funny. I don't even know why. If someone ever asks me "what was the exact moment where things started to feel slightly less shitty?" instead of telling a nice, heartwarming story about the support of the people who loved and believed in me, I'm going to have to tell them about the piece of corn. And then I'm going to have to try to explain that no, really, it was funny. Because, see, the way the corn was sitting on the floor... it was so alone... and it was just sitting there! And no matter how I explain it, I'll get the same, confused look. So maybe I'll try to show them the piece of corn - to see if they get it. They won't. Things will get even weirder.


Anyway, I wanted to end this on a hopeful, positive note, but, seeing as how my sense of hope and positivity is still shrouded in a thick layer of feeling like hope and positivity are bullshit, I'll just say this: Nobody can guarantee that it's going to be okay, but — and I don't know if this will be comforting to anyone else — the possibility exists that there's a piece of corn on a floor somewhere that will make you just as confused about why you are laughing as you have ever been about why you are depressed. And even if everything still seems like hopeless bullshit, maybe it's just pointless bullshit or weird bullshit or possibly not even bullshit.


I don't know. 

But when you're concerned that the miserable, boring wasteland in front of you might stretch all the way into forever, not knowing feels strangely hope-like. 






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Ouid said...

ALLIE! YOU ARE OUR CORN!!

Anonymous said...

"I don't necessarily want to KILL myself . . . I just want to become dead somehow." This and so much more. I read this post this morning and I have never in my life read anything that explained my experiences better. The part about wishing my dog would quit loving me so much. The attempts to comfort other people. The awkwardness of trying to tell someone you want to be dead and then having to deal with their overwrought EMOTIONS about you saying such a thing. And the recovery, the HATE oh man, that came back first for me, too and it actually felt so good to feel it, to feel anything, after not being able to give a shit for so long. I feel like nobody could explain it better.

Anonymous said...

I'm glad you're back. I've lived with someone with depression and I've experienced short bouts myself, nothing like what you've experienced, but i certainly know the feeling of just not wanting to exist, thankfully the thought of my dog being alone kept me hanging on.

So I wouldn't have offered to help you try and find the dead fish you have in your hands, but you need to know that I love you and hundreds, probably thousands of others do too.

So happy to know you have gotten help and can feel again.

You've made me laugh so much, your brilliance at comedy is a rare thing. Thanks!

Unknown said...

Ooooh, and I have some water you should put your fish into when you find them.

Kim said...

I think everyone in the world should read this post so that they can maybe understand just a little bit about how depression is. It's not just "being sad"- this is such an excellent post! I am glad you found that piece of corn.

Sasha said...

Thank you for that. I know exactly how wonderful it feels to see that piece of corn. Catharsis is triggered by the strangest of circumstances.

I find recurring doses of absurdity help me remember that yeah, it's all bullshit, but it's hilarious bullshit.

Always look on the bright side of life!

Dracowin said...

Thank you for this! It is so hard to try to explain to people what its like being depressed and you have done a wonderful job here.

Anonymous said...

Spot on, I just want to know where is my corn.

Anonymous said...

i understand about the corn

Anonymous said...

Thanks for coming back. I'm glad you're on the road toward "normal" brainwaves.

I've been working on "normal" emotions for years now... I'm really fucking sick of it (and really bored ALL OF THE TIME, NO MATTER WHAT, which /is/ bullshit).

I'm jealous of people who can't wait to get working on their latest hobby. What's a hobby? How do I get one? How do I get one that makes me want to get off the floor? Can I have yours? No wait, nevermind, that actually seems really pointless and really boring... Ugh.

"Maybe everything isn't hopeless bullshit."

It's true. Even though I'm /years/ into repeating something eerily similar and I'm still the Chairman of the Bored... I believe it. I think that counts as hope.

Good luck.

Red Terror said...

The problem here is not depression--it's that you're ignorant. The true cause of all mental instability is capitalism. I'm sorry you are too stupid to realize this, so maybe you ought to just kill yourself.

Anonymous said...

Wow!! Allie is coming back! ALLIE IS COMING BACK!!

Welcome back to the Land-of-those-who-feel-something again. We really missed you. I hope you never leave again.

Thanks for the post. You made me laugh as you promised yesterday. Have a million shriveled-corn-like laughs for now.

Anonymous said...

Glad you're better. Hope you get even better. I went through some nice, also creepy, feelings of not-wanting-to-live-anymore, and I cannot recall when it happened, but I suddenly found faith in the world, it was worth living!! Yay :D but I do not even remember the corn under the fridge, I just "clicked"...

MJ said...

I've never seen depression explained so well, and in terms people who've never been there would even be able to understand.

I'm glad you're feeling like everything may not be hopeless bullshit.

Unknown said...

^^ BS I totally agree. It's strange how all of our brains can go through the same struggles. I never anti-depressants and instead sludged though it for what seemed like a very very long time. Maybe wasn't the best approach. The described phases are so perfectly accurate, it makes me feel I'm reliving it a little. Kinda made me well up. Which is a good sign, I think. It's been many years since I've felt real depression, and now it really feels like a distant irrational dream...

Anonymous said...

Welcome back, thanks for posting. :)

Anonymous said...

I wish I had your writing and drawing talents...I have some great stories like when I ate an entire box of stuffing because that's all that was left in my apartment and decided to brave the grocery store during a massive crying jag. Egads. Or the time my husband was the person I told I wish I could just be dead but not that I wanted to kill myself because that would take too much effort, so he pretty much busted into the doctor's office in the middle of the doctor's busy day and demanded action NOW. A lot funnier or poetic if you were the one telling it...but just wanting to say I've been there. Everything isn't hopeless bullshit and glad to see you are still with us...hope things keep creeping up in the right direction. It takes eons but I have faith you'll get there!

Anonymous said...

this is it

Mrs. Silverstein said...

Thanks for posting, Allie. I think you're great.

Unknown said...

Holy shit, I picked the perfect day to check back in on you here. I've been doing it periodically and worrying, so I wasn't quite expecting there to be anything here...but there they were! Two new posts, just from today and yesterday!! I can only imagine how difficult it's been for you, as I've never had to suffer through depression (though your posts are painting a very good picture of it!), but I am so, so happy that things are beginning to improve, even if it's bit by bit. I know that they will only continue to get better, even if it takes time, because you are an amazing, gorgeous, fantastic person, and I believe in you. So many people do. <3 Keep trudging through that wasteland, Allie! I love you!!!

Unknown said...

I'm so glad to see you posting again.

Moné Peterson said...

Corn. I get it. It's funny.

Lady Indigo said...

I... actually, the corn thing makes so much sense I can't even.... seriously though.

The Smarter Princess said...

So thankful for that piece of corn that brought you back to blogland.

Unknown said...

Allie, having you back is like finding a piece of corn under the fridge. My whole...everything...just brightened.
Thank you for your openness. As a writer, I know how easy-hard it is.

Jacqueline M said...

Thank you for posting this.

Natalie said...

So, so, so true...My boyfriend is currently in a treatment place after a suicide attempt, so he's at the doctor-stage here...I sure hope he finds his piece of corn soon. As soon as I can talk to him, I'm gonna show him this.

txdinghysailor said...

Thank you. I needed this.

AstridVU said...

SO glad to have you back, and hope your future is looking bright, funny and full of corn all over :) Glad you are feeling a bit better, and this text is SO well written, that it would be a crime not to share it. I bet it will help a lot of people!

<3

metztli said...

your post was uncomfortable and difficult to read, but for all the right reasons. depression is a strange thing that only people who have had it will understand, but even then, will become a silent nodding-of-head type thing. it's hard to admit it (it can feel like a failure) and it is taboo as you're treated like a social pariah, but if you make it through, you learn so much about yourself.

thank you for this.

nemuri neko said...

I like the floor.

Anonymous said...

Amazingly powerful.

Anonymous said...

i suppose it's good to know there's someone, or multiple someones judging by the comments, that understand. I hope you find real happy and not just superficial happy sooner than later. sometimes fake it 'til you make it works....

and puppies are good.

Anonymous said...

Yes. Perfect summation.

Unknown said...

Wow, those fish are super dead. I still like you though. Thank you.

Soren said...

Likening not wanting to be alive anymore to leaving a room with nothing in it. I've never heard it phrased more perfectly.

If there's one thing I can say to you, it is: Travel. It seems random and weird and pointless (like anything else?), but there's something about getting in a car (or whatever mode of transport) and going to a place you've never been on a road you've never been on with CDs you haven't listened to in years that just does something to a person. I can't promise it will rekindle you forever, but I can tell you that it did something to me. I pictured things I wanted to do and thought, wow, hey, that would be cool to do. And I hadn't thought those kinds of things for a long time.

Even if it seems random, just make the time and don't give a fuck about why you're doing it and don't worry too much about the destination itself, because that doesn't really matter. Just travel.

Love you, man.

Girr said...

If I knew you in real life, I'd say nothing and give you a hug. But as a response to this comic, I have to say thank you for greatly illustrating something that I and others have gone through and outsiders just simply can't understand. This should be shared with everyone. Thanks again.

Rebecca said...

I'm so glad you're physically safe and maybe on your way to being ok.

I don't know if you'll be able to get through all these comments, but I hope you see this one. Someone on tumblr said "depression is like trying to peel a potato with another potato. And nobody understands, they just say 'god, why don't you just get a peeler' and then they HAND YOU ANOTHER POTATO". It's a frighteningly accurate and yet still somewhat funny analogy that I thought you might appreciate.

Twinerism said...

Not even going to relate to this. No one could ever really empathise someone else's life and how they think. Just glad you're doing something about it. And being entertaining to boot.

Good read. If I could find a book with this kind of sass and metaphoric imagery, I'd be set for the rest of my lazy, internet surfing ass.

Chris W. said...

Thank you for sharing your experience with us, you have been missed. Your stories and the evocative artwork you use to illustrate them have always struck home in a way that I can't really explain and this one is no different.

I am glad you found your corn.

Anonymous said...

Allie, if you happen to get through the first 4000+ comments and read this: love to see you back! Come to Sweden and I'll give you as much corn as you like. Or champagne. Anything.

Anonymous said...

I feel weird typing this, considering I've never left comments on blogs I follow. Not because I don't love it enough or because I feel that I don't have to. It's always that fear of your comment just being...overly weird? Anyways, that's not the point. I wanted to comment because I wanted to let you know that, in this one blog, you have given me courage to actually go forth with telling people how I feel. I have been in a similar situation...okay it's pretty much the same damn situation. For 2 months I had no left my room just because the feeling of leaving was worthless. I failed college and I got fired from my job, but I did not care and yet I still felt I had no need to ask for help. That there was nothing horribly wrong with how I felt and that I still had control of the situation. It wasn't till I recently moved that I realized I was in a bad position. That i had no control anymore and that I should not be feeling this way. But at the same time....how do you tell people these things? How do you go through with that? I'm not asking you for an answer, but actually thanking you. It's...it's hard. It's really hard. It's so fucking hard to tell someone because you could just be telling it wrong. And you didn't only tell the people you knew face to face but you told all of US. That forward of strenght gives the push that us readers need to actually present our feelings (or lack of) to those that we know. And hell, even if it isn't EVERYONE, it at least helped me. ANd I want to thank you so much. I know this post is grammatically awful and I misspelled A LOT of things, sorry. But I do hope you get this comment and know that I am very very grateful.

midnitechef said...

Finally, someone else gets it!
I've been through a lot, still tryng to get divorced from the psyco that triggered many years of depression, he.just.won't.let.go.
In fact I used the fish analogy to the destruction of our marriage, HA! And blogged about it. People were confused, readers didn't like it because it wasn't really about food like they're used to reading.

I enjoyed this post. Thank you for sharing what most people cannot. Hugs!

Anonymous said...

You are so manic depressive/bipolar II it is insane. get on some lithium, stat. Christ.

Anonymous said...

Yaaaaaaayyy!!!!!!!!! I'm so glad to see you posting again. I love this blog and I laugh hysterically every time I read it. You've been gone too long. :)

I can also relate to your struggles and I really appreciate you bringing some humor to it. Thank you for sharing and continuing to be hilarious!!

Anonymous said...

Thank you for making this post right when I needed it most.

You're really amazing, and I'm sorry you're depressed.
I'm so glad you're back. You make stupid things like life more bearable.

Anonymous said...

*hugs*

jenwah said...

Yes. Yep. Totally. Thank you.

spenceman said...

This is one of the best things I have ever read.

metalfire said...

Welcome back to the internet. You've made me smile in some of the worst moods I've experienced in the past.
I've recently felt depressed though not to the same extent and I related a lot to your blog. Thank you for being who you are and thank you again for returning.

Anonymous said...

Thank you for sharing your experience. It's scary how helpful it was to my life...I actually always wondered if it really is "depression" or (god forbid) just LIFE as an adult!! Being able to relate through your writing was actually-therapeutic? So thank you.

Anonymous said...

Thank you. I've also been going through a really rough time lately, and this helps a lot.

Stacy said...

I laughed hard at the corn too before I read that it made you laugh. I don't know why either. I'm so glad you are back. I could say something about how much I identify with this and the other depression post, but I'll just say thank you. Thank you for sharing.

Anonymous said...

so so SO glad you are back!

Anonymous said...

Right on.
Ps. I get the corn. I had a similar experience with a teapot in a sink.

Anonymous said...

Thank you so much for writing this post. It is so hard to explain these things to people who haven't had experience with it. I usually just end up getting frustrated with trying to explain or give up on it. This post somehow does it in a perfect sort of way. Everyone should read it.

I'm so glad that you're in a better space now.

Hannah said...

This made me want to cry a bit because of how much I could relate to some of it, but that is a good thing because it made me feel a little bit less lonely, so thank you. And I am glad about the corn, that it made things seem a bit more positive. :)

JakeWobegon said...

Yes! Best description ever! People have gotten so used to the word, "depression," that I now say I have anhedonia. After they look it up, they are horrified and apologize that I would ever have to deal with this. Then I try to explain that it's only part of the depression. I get blank stares in return, but at least people stop recommending that I just, "drink more caffeine."

Thank you.

Anonymous said...

That's not at all what I imagined depression to be like... So thanks for making it make a little more sense... And I'm so, so happy that you've posted something new - I've missed you!

Heather said...

I heart you. And you are not alone, although you are even funnier than that piece if corn.

And seriously, people who don't "get" the corn thing may not ever get it, but there are enough of us who have been there, done that. We get it.

Anonymous said...

What a sad, yet completely relate-able story! That numb feeling is awful. I've only been out that place for a year, but I can still feel it sometimes.

Thank God for the dogs. That's all I have to say.

Welcome back! To your blog, and to land of the feeling.

Anonymous said...

I love this site. My little dried up piece of corn was this: I was lying in my bed crying for day 10,000 in a row and then i noticed onto a small-to-medium sized piece of pre-sliced cheddar cheese wrapped up in the covers at the foot of my bed. I knew immediately it was cheese and I knew immediately it had been there for at least 5 days. And I snapped. It's one thing to be pathetic in your bed crying, it's a whole 'nother level to be sleeping WITH CHEESE. And not even know it! I kept it on my dresser for a few days to remind me of whatever it was that it gave me. Love your strength and your story. You and penelope trunk are my heroines! love, ariel

Anonymous said...

I think I really needed to read this. This helps me so much to understand what people with depression go through every day. They may act weird sometimes to people that do not have depression, but that's because they don't know how to act. It's just not familiar to them, to have these emotions when they just feel so detached from everything and everyone. And then random feelings they haven't felt in so long just start spurting out in small bursts and they are so confused as to why it's happening so they try to run away from the feelings and push them away because having emotions is scary. They don't want to be hurt any more. Hurt is a feeling. But they want to be able to feel, to know how to interact with others the way they are supposed to.

Thank you so much for sharing this story of yours.

Slothstice said...

Thank you for this. (Actually thank you for everything you write.) It's been so long since I had a corn kernel moment that I forgot those happen. I think can keep trucking on in anticipation of the next corn.

Anonymous said...

I know you already have a million comments, but I had to thank you for posting this. I was diagnosed with clinical depression four years ago, and this is *the* most accurate thing I have ever read about it. I am totally amazed by it, actually--you got EVERYTHING, right down to the corn (not that corn is a universal step in recovery, just that there totally ARE moments of laughing hysterically at completely absurd things no one else understands). Although I'm not convinced the crying-at-juice stage ever ends...it's been four years, and I still cry (and laugh) at totally inappropriate things all the time just because FEELINGS.

Wishing you well and thank you, again, so much for sharing this. I hope your feelings keep coming back! ("Maybe everything isn't hopeless bullshit" is pretty much my life's motto. Nailed it.)

Unknown said...

You totally gave me my new desktop background with that final image. Thanks for sharing b/c you say and draw what lots of people go though in ways we can't!

ravenkatt said...

I'm so glad to see you're back! I've been worried about you. I, too, find your fish metaphor incredibly true and am sorry for how dead your fish have been. I can't help but inject some hopefulness that you will be back full steam soon--climbing out of the pit sucks!

I so know the feeling of wanting to be dead, but not kill myself. I'm so glad you reached out and got help!

And, yes, your post made me laugh and made me tear up. Here's to knowing that many people love you and would be sad if you weren't here. That's what helped keep me here, too.

Heather D said...

never have commented here before... but I can understand this, especially the corn.

Thank you for sharing this.

iceprincess said...

I am happy you found your corn. <3

Emily said...

Thank you.

Unknown said...

I'm so happy you're back. What a surprise it was to see the transition post pop up in my inbox, and then to see this post on Facebook. Missed you and can't wait to read more. This post was brilliant!

Anonymous said...

Allie, you have never been and will never not be loved. Just like simple dog, all of us care about you. We are not going away whether you wish to be obligation free or not. I have seen people go through this void and never make it out. I may never truly relate or commisurate, but by being brave enough and strong enough to share your experiences, I can begin to understand. It is beautiful that you have survived. You are beautiful.

whitney said...

the fish metaphor, my god. so true. glad you're back even for this post, allie.

blades said...

i totally understand about the corn. for me, it was a light switch. and it wasn't so much funny as just the most awesomest thing in the world, ever. like, so amazingly awesome that there could never be anything so awesome again, ever, in the history of awesomeness. and i wasn't so much depressed as in shock after being nearly dead. so nothing like your experience at all, when i think about it. umm... i think my point was that the corn is perfectly sensible, and don't worry about explaining it. it's our little secret, and they can't have it.

sally said...

Allie, you are one of the most amazing people I don't know.....srsly, do you realize that you are a genius?.... Compared to what you've been going through, my depressions are just bumps in the road, you have done well to get through this far, and to be able to actually make it clear to others ...whew ....

I hope you'll write more, I missed you when you were gone, and I have been worried about you....I am not the only one, you have a legion of folks you've never met, that care deeply about you...wierd huh? ...not that you're not worthy of being cared about,I mean that there are all these people out here in cyberland who are rooting for you....

,,sending feel better soon vibes at ya, it ain't much but it's all I got

Matt said...

I've been where you were. I hope you continue fighting through it. I wish there was an easy answer. But, there are answers.

Anonymous said...

Thank you. I use "adventures in depression" and "this is why i'll never be an adult" to explain to loved ones what ADHD & depression are like when I get tired of trying myself (which is almost always). I'll add this to the list.
I promised myself I wouldn't commit suicide when I was fifteen: that I'd do my best to be alive until at least my parents were dead, and ideally until I could make everyone else stop caring. While there have been some occasional happy interludes since then, that's been my basic operating principle for the last twenty years: keep existing for now, because you'll be an even bigger piece of shit if you don't.
...
I think you're better at ending on a positive than me.

Anonymous said...

I'm so happy that you've posted again! I and a lot of my friends have missed you so much. This post is one of the most wonderful things in the world because it means that you are still here and still doing things.
And that is fantastic news.

Anonymous said...

Very brave post. And delivered in such a humorous way. Glad you're finding things to laugh at- even if weird little pieces of corn. And thank you for providing the rest of the world with laughs by sharing your blog!

Unknown said...

I've lived with a mood disorder for the past 14 years, and dude, I tell you, the corn moments are what keeps me going. My sense of humor may be so broken by now that I can find just about anything funny at any time, but as you discovered with the corn, it's the best superpower to have. Cultivate it. Seek the corn. It will get you through.

Seriously, though. This post. Jesus Christ. That last pic is going to be my desktop background from now until the day I die.

Thank you for this post. I'm glad you're starting to do a little better.

Anonymous said...

Just so you know, I started laughing at the corn before there was any explanation. I might just have a really twisted sense of humor... but I got a good laugh from the corn. Thanks.

Anonymous said...

You'll probably never see this with so many fan comments, but I just wanted to stay that I have more than one close friend with serious depression for most of my life. I have always struggled to understand what they're going through, or knowing what to say, and reading your post is the FIRST time in all these years that it seems like I might finally have an inkling. And I hope in future I can stop bombarding them with optimism and just say "Well, I still like you." Thank you and good luck.

Anonymous said...

This post hits too close to home and you have worded what I had felt for too long.

Thank you Allie. Be strong, for me as well.

Anonymous said...

Brilliant, thanks for posting. I get this. That insular, disconnected, empty feeling. Add a bit of stress and isolation and money problems and weirding all your friends and family out really sucks too. Not being able to get a job, or even hold one down and being "compelled" to "act" your way through the day in front of others and simply not wanting to bother with anything.
I don't mind being introverted, so long as other people don't keep bugging me and accept me for it. When the Bi-Polar phase kicks in and people who don't know you well are totally unable to get the measure of you, life becomes "entertaining" as you seek to engage and relate to people and events.
There are moments now and again when I feel intense joy and connection with people and things. But the trade off, is the lows and the desolate phases....

Fork said...

I have been exactly in the same wasteland, and have only in the past few months gotten almost completely out of it. I don't know that I'll ever be all the way out of it, but I at least finally feel a little like I did before the depression hit for the first time in a long time. This is the third time depression has taken me for a long ride to the bottom and my medication had to be tweaked again to bring back up. I am so happy that you are on your way out of the wasteland and that you are back to writing again. You have brought me so much joy reading your posts in the past, and I just had to share with you that I am happy you are okay and getting back to yourself. Take care!

Andrew Kilian said...

I felt that way too. For a long time. I don't anymore. I had to read a lot of books, eat a lot of vitamins and stabilize my blood sugar. I've never met anyone who could put it into words or understood how it felt. I hope you get better.

Best, Andrew

Anonymous said...

This sounds so much like me right now, it's not even funny (yet). I'm at the "hate everything" stage. I 'll find my stupidly funny thing soon!

Anonymous said...

Thank you for this - for being brave and sharing this. For being articulate enough to say everything I seem to be unable to explain to others. it's a struggle to get a grip on what it is you want from one moment or the other and everyone around you is trying to help but their well-meaning help can be smothering. I am going to send this link to all of my friends so they understand a bit better. Man I've missed your comic and the way you get down to the heart of things. I hope you find more corn under your fridge :) I also really hope I find mine.

Thanks a million,

M

Unknown said...

That sounds familiar. Less intense. But quite familiar. Haven't found the con yet.

Tim said...

I feel like a selfish ass encouraging you to write more, so I'll just say you're the best and if you want to do more, I'll be here clicking refresh. If it helps, just know that you're fantastic and you make everything better. Keep trying and I hope you feel better.

Anonymous said...

We're so happy you're back, Allie! We hope you continue to find more shriveled corn on the floor, and feel even better!

Anonymous said...

Hey. I've been trying for two years to explain my depression to my friends and family. I haven't been able to. And no one seems to care enough to read long books on the subject to better understand me. But they'll read a blog post; that's about all the attention span they've got, I guess. Anyway, all I wanted to say really was that thanks to this post, some of the close people in my life FINALLY seem to at least sort of get what I'm dealing with. And that's really calming. I just wanted to thank you. And even though wishes of a stranger can't make things happen, I do still wish healing and peace and a range of healthy emotions for your heart and soul. And for mine, too.

Anonymous said...

The coffee shop picture made me laugh/cry so hard I gave myself a headache!

Dee said...

This post is a great insight for those who've never experienced depression head on. Thank you for sharing and I hope things get more hopeful/less crap like. You should frame that piece of corn, I'm sure there's something really profound there. seriously.

Gerard said...

Well done!

Annie said...

Your writing has made me laugh to the point of crying multiple times (your post about moving comes to mind), and the same thing almost happened this time (just barely restrained by my must-not-turn-hysterical-in-cafe instinct), but for a different reason. I have multiple friends who have been through depression and I never really understood what that meant, and when you share your experiences like this I feel like I get it a little more. As a friend to those people and as a future healthcare provider, thank you for writing this. :)

I guess it won't be momentously helpful for me to start spouting iterations of, "It gets better!" So instead, can I just say that I am so glad that you DID choose to go on living and to force yourself to give enough of a damn to inform the people around you about how you were feeling. I hope you continue to rediscover what it's like to give a damn about the world one way or another. Maybe you'll even rediscover Horse's Big Space Adventure!

Anonymous said...

So, I'm lying under the fridge, and then she's looking right at me and I make the face. Man, I totally nailed it. I knew that face was hilarious . . .

Yang said...

I bet many people today "arrived at the border of the less miserable wasteland" and almost crossed over. Luckily, they took one last look back and saw that Allie was on the internetz again and decided to turn back.

What an outstanding post!

Jake said...

It's great to see you back! There's nothing I can say to make you feel instantly better again, but I can say I was depressed at one time, and eventually I just... wasn't. I guess I found my piece of corn, too. And I think you'll find another someday soon, and you'll be back to your old self.

Momiss said...

Allie, whether it's all hopeless bullshit or not, I am so very glad I get to suffer through it with you. So to speak. I lost my mom and when I wrote about the grief it seemed like fog to me. Oh, and I'm on the roller coaster of menopause too, so the crying thing? BEEN THERE, girl! You have been missed for a long time and I am so glad to see this. I still like you, with or without feeling or meaningless bullshit.
Keep going!

Anonymous said...

Allie, I'm so happy you're back. Good luck with the future, I do hope it's better than the present :)

Alison Brodersen-Schroeder said...

I'm so glad you're back!

Meg said...

Corn! Laughter! Considering crawling on my floor to check for a kernal.

Anonymous said...

So helpful to be infomed by your explanations. The dead fish bit was a lightbulb. Keep sharing.

Anonymous said...

As the one who's usually trying to help revive dead fish, thanks for putting this in terms I can understand. Thank you for articulating what it feels like (or... doesn't feel like) so that I have a better chance of being a constructive force for my friends who deal with this.

Sue said...

I don't even know what to say.

Except yes. Or not exactly yes, but close enough for government work.

And it hurts to read but at the same time hilarious. Like laughing at nuns using the bathroom. It happens, everybody knows it happens, but everybody pretends that what comes out is rainbows and roses.

You might never read this, I know I didn't read all 4303 comments (at the moment of this writing), but you might not ever know I read your thing either. So we're even. And I'm good with that.

Graham H said...

You're awesome

Mirrox said...

Wow, this blog really moved me deeply.
You put color to a picture that so many, including myself, have had problems coloring themselves.

:)

Diana B said...

I'm so happy to see you posting content again, and I just have to say that people like you are what gives me enough hope to face whatever the future holds. I struggled with an eating disorder and depression for over 6 years, and your description of the misery of being depressed hit the nail on the head <3 The fact that you overcame all of that suffering is a tribute to how great a person you are, and the Internet is lucky to have you back!

Trevel said...

Thanks for coming back, Allie. We missed you.

... and I get the corn. Floor corn is pretty darn hilarious. (Except when it's fresh and buttery and NOW YOU CAN'T EAT IT; then it's a horrific tragedy.)

Unknown said...

I'm so glad you found words for this. This helps. This is makes me cry. And it helps. A fuckton.

Absentbabinski said...

Love it!

So glad you're posting again. Your art is touching and hilarious in equal measure :)

Unknown said...

I understand completely. You are not alone. I can't make it better or make it go away, but I have been there too, and it seems like many of your other fans have as well. Kudos for talking about it. XOXO

Unknown said...

as with so many of these folks, i've been there, too.

usually when i smoked weed.

but i hear tapeworms cause similar issues.

maybe you should check and make sure you don't have a tapeworm.

loveyougladtohaveyouback

the violet-haired vixen said...

I think you are my piece of corn.
Seriously, reading this I feel much less alone, and that helps enormously. Thank you for sharing.

Anonymous said...

I'm so glad you're back. This is hilarious and terrifyingly familiar. It helps. A lot. Thank you.

Ana said...

This is perfect.

I went through the exact same thing. February was the worst point.

As you said, crying for the sake of crying, on the floor. Not having people understand what was wrong. All of it.

And then suddenly, nothing happened, but everything was ok. I started being happy again just for the sake of it.

I still believe that there is no meaning in life, but it doesn't take its toll on absolutely everything I do anymore.

Anonymous said...

Thank you for being my corn.

Ana said...

And by the way, thank you so much for this. It's incredible how you can pin point and express exactly what it's like.

Thank you.

Anonymous said...

Depression is a big hairy butt with poo clinging to the hairs. Glad you're feeling a bit better, I know from experience that it's going to be awhile before everything's back to normal, in the mean time, stare at all the shriveled up corn with joy!

John's Body said...

Thank you so much for writing this. I am now fighting back tears at work, but at least now I have a tool to explain why...

Tauby said...

If I could only could belly laugh. I see people laughing at things and there is nothing lately that brings more than a week smile. I know it is boring to people who think it is "just a mood". Thank you for using the right words and for , hopefully, make others understand our pain.I write real sad poetry at least.

Celeste said...

I'm so happy- in a bittersweet tragice feeling- that I'm not the only one. At first I thought I was over analyzing my situation but reading this made me feel a little better. Thanks for posting this! Glad to see you posting more :D)

Bethasaurus said...

I think that I have been a "Let's go find those lost fish of yours!" person to friends going through rough times, and I never realized it.

In the future, I will strive to be a person who recognizes the fish are dead but loves you anyway.

Thanks for that lesson - I think that I will be a better friend (and better person) as a result of it.

Anonymous said...

A friend has shared this with me. I am so glad to meet the progenator of the little fish! You are brilliant, and your ability to express your depression is so graphic. Thank you!

David said...

Possibly the most accurate description of depression I've come across. Also hilarious.

Ms Nomi said...

For decades of my life no one got that - I don't want to kill myself, I just want to be dead somehow. Every night as I drifted off to sleep, I would beg the universal being not to make me wake up in the morning. Thank you for expressing that overpowering feeling of nothingness that has had a stranglehold on my life for too long. That endless tiring feeling of continuing to do something that you don't want to do. You have made me realize that there are others out there. Thank you from the bottom of my heart.

ahilya said...

I just wanted to thank you for writing this. After the death wishing phase I would, and sometimes still, have the random crying at nothing. Which I thought happened to no one else ever and was just so pathetically ridiculous. Its hard to get out of the hate and crying when everything that just spontaneously happens is some stupid thing that only happens to you because you're just the worst. A big stupidface if you will. So thanks for saying its not just me.

Anonymous said...

Glad your back. :)

Anonymous said...

THANK YOU, Allie. You'll probably hear this more than once, but this was incredibly brave and honest. I appreciate it so much. It's a lot of stuff I've felt but been way to chicken shit to admit to the world. I don't want to bullshit you with hope, but I think you're extremely awesomely tough and wise and doing what one would need to do to get through this. So here's hoping for more corn kernels and fewer spiders in your immediate future. And it's ok not to hang around with the super peppy people. You're allowed to ditch them.

Anonymous said...

A very human experience. and maybe not all of life is bullshit! May I recommend the book The Moral Landscape that helped me see this. you sound like a very philosophical person.

Anonymous said...

Truth. Even down to the color of everyone's hair and the placement of the furniture. I'm not entirely convinced that this wasn't about me.

julia said...

thank you.

Unknown said...

You beautiful awesome thing. This is almost exactly what I went through too - - of course the details are different, but we came to the same place: There is so much nothing and shit in the world, but just because there is that nothing and shit doesn't mean that there aren't surprises, that there isn't unexpected beauty, that there isn't solace in the everything. I know that probable didn't make much sense, but the thing is... in order to learn how to live again, you have to learn at a level beyond words or language.

It sucks that you have to live with depression, suicidal thoughts, and the fucked up mental storm that you have. But you're still an awesome person, depression or not, and we've got your back.

Bethany said...

Allie, I appreciate that you've made message boards a positive place to be. I typically avoid message board e-feedback cuz it's so largely dominated by asshats, but this is a community of people being SUPPORTIVE. It's rare.

You're loved.

Anonymous said...

I missed you. I'm so glad you found the corn.

Victoria said...

Thank you for sharing your story. I too have had my fair share of depression but with a healthy dash of anxiety.I am a good crier too. But I want to say "thank you" for your humour. You have made me laugh out loud with your posts. That is a good thing.

Amanda Orneck said...

I don't know really why, but I'm crying now. Maybe it's because there's someone out there who can explain what depression is really like. Maybe it's because I found my corn a while back, and am grateful to have emotions again even though it took a while. Maybe it's because I'm a sap who can't help but feel things at you. For that I apologize, but I'm a sharer and I needed to share how your post made me *shame* feel.

Also:
Suck it grey fog, Allie found her corn.

Stupid Stork said...

Brilliant. Just brilliant.

Rick C said...

4000 comments is a lot to wade through and I have no idea if Allie reads them all, if anyone has already mentioned it, or if Allie has already discussed this with a doctor, but what she describes sure sounds a lot like something called blunted affect, which can be a symptom of depression.

SSRIs can supposedly cause blunting, although if she wasn't on them that wouldn't be the cause, obviously.

Anonymous said...

everything you write is SO FAMILIAR! I went through it myself - from being covered by that thick heavy grey blanket and seeing everything muffled and muted, to the out of control emotional roller coaster when I started taking meds.

For me it took about two months for the meds (and my mood) to stabilise, and from there it was a steady upward journey to get my life back on track. If you keep feeling wobbly and all over the place - talk to your doctor. Not all meds work the same for everyone, it make take a few tries to get the one that is right for you.

Good luck and thank you for sharing your story. If anyone asks me about my experience with depression, I'll show them this post.

ElGuappa said...

Allie,

Knowing depression in the way that you do and express it, not only do I relate to the deadness inside that you so eloquently express, but I can also see the absurd hilarity of the cornography (I know, I'z smrt 2) you experienced.

As alone and listless, lost and dazed, teary and hateful that you may feel: You are never alone in it, because folks like me know where you're at, have been there, and would be more than happy to watch cornograpy with you.

Mucho amor, Allie.

Elana

The Jamily said...

As always, your gift as a story teller truly amazes me. All those people and organisations raising awareness for depression and yours is the story the world needs to hear. I've never heard it described so well!

Kathia said...

I have to agree with all the posts saying how relate-able this was. For me, it was when you started talking about trying to explain how you felt to other people (see image here: http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-drS0smfRtIo/UWtKWq-cwyI/AAAAAAAAI-0/7NofDAulZ3Q/s640/ADTWO32.png). It's clear for me, but everyone else gets scared, but it's okay. I'm not going to do anything, I just want to have it done. I've called this "stopping" with my therapists and friends; I think it helps them kind of get it. Kind of...

Also - Welcome Back!!! :D

Anonymous said...

Those fish are super dead. We all still love you, though.

Unknown said...

So on the small chance that you're actually going to read this comjment, I just wanted to say: Thank you, I don't know what this was for you, whether meant to be funny or poignant or just to get it off your chest, but it was so educational and what I wish I could've showed people when I was that depressed. Hopefully I won't need in the future.

Good luck!

Willow said...

Those fish are definitely super dead. I hope for a magical resurrection... or maybe some new fish? Maybe lizards would be better. I still like you. Seriously though this post made me cry. I've gone through my wasteland and found my version of corn. I tried meds and it made things worse and added some fun side effects to boot. I don't know which part of my own treatment or life changes got me out of it, but I do know that if I stop taking vitamin D and 5-HTP I become a hopeless suicidal mess. Amazing how much of it turned out to be so simple... for me anyway. But I don't know, maybe there were other things that aren't so repeatable. I just hope you find your solution and come back into the light or whatever metaphor. I don't know. I just wish good things on you, and everyone posting who feels the same way.

Anonymous said...

My corn was a list of all the shit in my life, with my best friend sitting on the floor beside me. Before that had been a storm of tears in the shower. Prior to that had been nothing. Just grey and not giving enough of a fuck to dress, shower or eat right. I too wanted to just 'be dead' - not kill myself, just not exist anymore. Without any action taken on my part - rather like waiting for a bubble to pop, only you're the bubble. Well...after your previous post so long ago I knew this was what you were in for, and said as much and I'm glad you're muddling through it. As am I. Currently, I just get overwhelmed with sadness and a feeling that I can't move sometimes, so I slip back into not caring about myself. Thank god for the corn in our lives, all of us going through this.

K

DJRecipe said...

It's been said a million times so I'll just quote someone else:

Jericho said...

"I really think you are me in a parallel universe, writing about the same things. I KNOW ALL THESE FEELS. I'm happy you're back. I missed your crazy."

MAY 9, 2013 AT 9:00 AM

The human mind is a beautiful and intricate place.

Dusty said...

I've used Depression Part 1 on more than one occasion to try and get others to understand what it feels like. I'll definitely be sharing this one too. I have a depression. But being empty/nothing is a better description. You do a great job of getting that point across. I also love your comics. It's good to see you back, and I hope you find a way to keep the nothing away at least most of the time.
Thank you.

Anonymous said...

I like your post alot.

The Jamily said...

As always, your gift as a story teller truly amazes me. All those people and organisations raising awareness for depression and yours is the story the world needs to hear. I've never heard it described so well!

Darren John said...

That is fucking beautiful.

I compared it to Samuel Johnson's Essay on sorrow. But he didn't have MS Paint. I'm eighteen months into my third major breakdown recovery. Its shit. It looks shit. It feels shit. And it is going to be shit for a long time but I know there is a little bit of corn out there for me somewhere to look for.

Anonymous said...

You must have already found me; you spoke from inside my head. Thanks for finding the words I cannot.

Anonymous said...

Allie, I'm glad you're still here

Kathy said...

I still like you.

ChrystineMorales said...

I'm just so glad you're back! And hey... I kind of get it. I hope every day is an improvement from the last... keep posting; we've missed you!

Anonymous said...

Allie! I'm sorry about your fish, but I still like you.

I am curious--what happened to the corn? Did you throw it away, make it into a talisman, or leave it under the fridge to inspire the future?

Anonymous said...

Everything here sums up how I feel every day. Thank you sweetheart, for not merely sharing your feelings but enabling others to let it be known how powerful depression can be.

Katie said...

As a therapist-in-training and someone who has struggled with depression and anxiety disorders in the past, I appreciate your honesty and openness about your experience. The example you gave of wanting someone to say "Wow, those (fish) are super dead. I still like you, though." is a great example of the unconditional positive regard all therapists (and people, in my opinion) should have for others. I am also a firm believer in the power of humor to help us overcome shitty situations, and I am so thankful you found your corn. Best wishes in your journey.

Anonymous said...

hey, thank you for letting me know that i am not alone in this land of fucked up feels.

well, i know i am not the only person to have these feels, but to have somebody share them, so openly, allows others, including myself, to see that it is okay. or at least some semblance of okay. and that realization can make ones mascara smear all over her face. the kind of smears that dont seem to want to wash away, even with soap.

now, to continue the search for more corn.

Lady J said...

Thank you for sharing this. It is so on point. I'm looking for my piece of corn as we speak.

Unknown said...

I like all the "Im super happy for you and everything is going to be awesome now for you!" posts, exactly what this was saying was useless lol.

All I have to say is this: The future contains things. And stuff. It might be cool. Chill and watch the shitstorm.

Dahlila said...

I SO need this in a book, to show everyone, especially my dr. who says' things like "well, you have to try" & "you can do it!"

You do not suck. Thank you.

Jr. Day said...

Ally,

I've thought of you many times in your absence and in my own wandering across a gray slate of "nothing is changing" landscape. It is a dark thing indeed to un-wish love and talent and gifts and reasons to go on hauling around your own meat sack so that you could actually just shuffle off without inconveniencing anyone.

But I'll tell you now that your posts are a gift to a lot of people who are working their own crap out: re-examining childhood, an effusive love of sugar, repeated failed jabs at adulthood. And in reading your posts I find reflections of myself (as I imagine many of your readers do - both with snorts of pleased recognition and sometimes a chilling self-loathing).

Here is an extreme differentiator between us, however. I write (sometimes the same word over and over again and sometimes other things), because it is the only place where I might be safely alone. For some people writing is art. But I would suspect that it largely isn't for me. I'm not very good and I touch no one.

You, on the other hand, are doing this thing, this awfully hard, whimsical thing and it matters to people. It means that even when your life doesn't matter to you, it is mattering to numerous other people who would probably fight dinosaurs to protect it so that they could read a few more frames of your paintbrush art. It may not be reassuring, and that may sometimes feel like an additional burden, but at least it's a burden for a good reason.

I wish you many more shriveled pieces of corn and at least one for me, too.

Sparrow said...

This is...something I really needed actually. First, I was really worried about you because you're a brilliant individual. Also I've been walking through the wasteland and...

I guess the thought that there's possibly a piece of corn out there for me is really
cathartic
or something
thank you
thank you so much I'm glad you're still going

7.6 Lbs of Awesome said...

Thank you for posting this. I can relate--I've been in that place for a couple of years now myself. You've done an excellent job conveying what it's really like to feel this way. Here's to hoping I find my shriveled up piece of corn someday soon. :)

Jeremy Brown said...

I think I get the corn joke. It took millions of years of evolution for the very first organic elements to eventually produce humans and corn, just so a piece of it could dry and shrivel under your fridge. The pointlessness of this is obvious to a depressed person, but to a healing depressed person it suddenly becomes clear that you just have to accept this sort of thing and let it be what it is. Laughter is the magic goo that helps us accept the fact that there are just too many details and too many causes and effects and too many unsolvable equations to even begin to try to count, let alone make sense of. Or something like that. Laughing just says "there is no meaning here but it feels like there's meaning here, and I'm beginning to suspect that there really could be meaning here though I'll never understand it, and that's totally worth the copay."

Anonymous said...

Hi Allie-
I teach high school, and I'm going to share this post with my students (albeit edited for curse words, sorry). This is a tremendously important post, and it makes so much sense. You are awesome. Thank you for using your voice to make a difference.

Anonymous said...

That's exactly how it happened to me. I identified with that entire article. I've never seen a better description.

Anonymous said...

Welcome back. We've all missed your posts. And this was something really heartwarming - thank you for sharing. You put into words (and pictures) what so many people are going through, you really have made a difference to a whole heap of lives today. And for those of us going through some form of depression too, I think I speak for a lot of us when I say it left a tear in our eye too. I hope I get to find my piece of corn one of these days.
- Dyl.
(Posted "anonymously" as none of my friends or family know)

goldenorbrokenorlost said...

Thank you. I am glad that you are starting to feel better and are willing to share all this--after the last year I have had I have complicated feelings about thinking about suicide myself and I really appreciate you putting it out there in public.

Larissa said...

You, me, same boat. And you're right... even Sharpie-ing it on your face, there just is no way to make it easier to say.

Thanks for reminding me I'm not alone, but man, that tunnel of no feeling is a sonofabitch. I'm also at the point where I want to sleep indefinitely. I don't WANT to walk back through the desert! And to top all this crap off I have to work at a front desk where I need to be perky and shit. Hopefully I've made the appropriate faces to the customers. :\

Thank you for coming back. Please stay.

emily said...

Thank your for sharing. Such honesty in your writing. Super glad you are still alive (and posting).

Suzanne said...

It's good to see you back on the internetz! Thanks for posting this, I love your comics!

Ali said...

Allie, thank you so much for helping my husband understand why I cry when things happen! This is the BEST WAY of explaining depression, especially the part about suicide... Thanks! <3

Emily said...

Oh, welcome back, welcome back! I hope you're getting good drugs & therapy. I've been through this...with small children to raise alone. My suicide plan was complicated because I didn't want them to know what happened or leave them alone... Depression is terrifying. And you're right, nobody knows how to deal. I would rather get cancer & die than ever go through this again. And I totally get the corn.

Vanessa said...

Thank you so much!! You captured the feelings of depression in such a powerful way!! I want the APA to include this in the new (jacked-up) DSM-5 since it is the most accurate description that I have ever read. I had my kitchen floor moment and that hysterical laughter saved me too! SO glad that you are back!!

Kathleen C. said...

So glad you're back and that you posted about this. I've dealt with depression since I was 9 and my sister took her life in 2009. It was the hardest thing our family has ever gone through. I'm happy that you found your piece of corn and that everything isn't hopeless bullshit for you anymore. Also, glad the doggie was there to love you through it. They're the best. :)

Dosaki said...

I missed you. That is all. :3

Anonymous said...

So happy you are back Allie! I love your posts and pictures. I also struggle with depression and totally identify with your post. You are not alone! Sending my hope and positivity your way :)

Shaezocha said...

One time, red ink made me hysterical. I've missed you.

Sidhe Demon said...

I <3 you, Allie. So glad you're getting better!

Geoffrey said...

You're incredible! I'm so glad that piece of corn helped you pull through.

Kirby said...

You are an amazing storyteller. I wish that you can find all the weirdly hilarious kernals of life you need to lead you back to joy.

Mita said...

I read most of this article with my hand over my mouth, in a weird cross between gross crying and cracking up like I always seem to do when reading one of your posts. Really glad you're back, I never gave up hope that you would post again. I guess you wouldn't really want to talk to some random chick on the Internet, but I really think you should talk to a therapist/counselor. It will take you time to find the right one and that part will suck, but i hope that it will actually really help you. Good luck with your recovery, and all the best,

Mita

Robin said...

I don't know if you'll read this, you'll have so many comments to go through - I just wanted to add my voice to the chorus: So glad to hear from you again, glad you are still here even if your fish are dead, glad you are still able to put into words and hysterical pictures what I have such a hard time explaining to people.

The part about seeming like you want to be depressed is so spot on I can't even begin to say thank you. This part: "But people want to help. So they try harder to make you feel hopeful and positive about the situation. You explain it again, hoping they'll try a less hope-centric approach, but re-explaining your total inability to experience joy inevitably sounds kind of negative; like maybe you WANT to be depressed. The positivity starts coming out in a spray — a giant, desperate happiness sprinkler pointed directly at your face. And it keeps going like that until you're having this weird argument where you're trying to convince the person that you are far too hopeless for hope just so they'll give up on their optimism crusade and let you go back to feeling bored and lonely by yourself."

I am so sorry that you've had to go through it... and yet it's such a light sometimes, to see someone else understand so completely feelings that no one else seems to get.

I am forwarding your post to my old therapist immediately. She works with youth and kids and I always showed her your anxiety/depression related stuff because it explained me but I also felt like it was an AWESOME resource for a professional to have. I just thought you might like to think of your blog as a tool in the toolbelt of mental health professionals.

Okay, I have too many things to say. Thank you. And we will still love you if you don't post for another year and half... or if you don't post ever again. Or if you post one million times in the next hour. You're cool and I hope you feel the emotions you want to feel sometime soon.

Anonymous said...

Allie, I'm so glad to see you're alive and...well, alive is good. I think a lot of people go through what you have been going through, myself included, and it's nice to hear it put so clearly and familiarly. It's a hard thing to talk about, and I respect the hell out of you for not being afraid to reflect on it. Stay strong!

Oh, also, this may sound like a really weird and possibly boring suggestion, but I totally recommend reading some stuff by Friedrich Nietzsche; perhaps The Genealogy of Morals. If you can get in to it, his philosophy is really refreshing in light of all the cynical thinkers in that field. (Ignore his misogyny, I swear it's pretty much the only thing he's stupid about).

gilbert wham said...

You're brilliant and funny, and I'm glad that (maybe) everything isn't bullshit Allie.

Wilian said...

I also laugh at corn sometimes.

Anonymous said...

i hope i find my piece of corn some day soon. i'm glad you found yours, allie.

shirley2allie said...

omigod! You've nailed it! I know people who won't ever get it (and would probably be even more confused by your explanation), but I know from experience exactly what you're talking about. As much as I hate to admit it - drugs can be very (as in, extremely) helpful. Welcome back and good luck!!!

Lacey said...

There have been times, in the months since your last post, that I thought about emailing you to see if you were ok. But I'm just a weird internet stranger, I don't know you, so I always talked myself out of it. Thank you for letting us all know that you're, well, not "ok" per se, but still here. And maybe slightly better. Thank you for talking about what you're going through. It helps so many people. I'm sorry that your brain sucks, and I hope eventually it replaces your old dead fish with really awesome exciting brilliant wonderfully alive fish, because really, you've had to go long enough with the dead ones!

Rebecca67 said...

Thank you for explaining the nothing like you did. Its the best description I've ever read, and it almost made me laugh and cry. I have been to the place where you are, and I have come most of the way back. You will too. Watch your symptoms like a hawk, and take your medication without fail, and remember that this is brain chemistry, not a funk that you can think your way out of by being "positive" or "strong". Read "The Chemistry of Joy" when you are able, it helped me.

Anonymous said...

Huzzah for corn!

The good thing that came out of my 'trying to become dead somehow' was that eventually, there was good stuff and cat stuff and dog stuff and people stuff and funny stuff afterward. So even in the flat fogs that came afterward when I considered it again, I was vaguely aware that there would indeed be an 'after'. Thank you for writing this.

Mom-Away-From-Mom said...

Dear Allie,
I cannot express in words how much I love your ability to capture all that is real and good in life in your blog. You will never be able to get rid of everybody that loves you, so you will have to stick with us while we all try to figure this thing out.
Love you more than you can comprehend,
Me and about 341,999 other people

solarsun said...

I know how this feels all to well. There was a time where melted pink ICE CREAM sent me rolling with laughter for over an hour.

I'm glad you're feeling again. May the corn be with you always :)

Anonymous said...

Frankly I'm just mad. I'm mad because I want to be the only person who feels nothing, and here you've gone and made feeling nothing the most popular thing on the internet. Now people who really don't have any problems will be all "I'm such a victim of my own emotions," and depression will just become this huge benign useless fad. Thanks, fart monkey.

Marietta said...

Perfect. You captured it. Thank you for this.

Caroline said...

Thank you so much! I relate very much to your story and your take definitely brought a big smile to my face.

Really amazing writing and cartoons <3

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