Depression Part Two

I remember being endlessly entertained by the adventures of my toys. Some days they died repeated, violent deaths, other days they traveled to space or discussed my swim lessons and how I absolutely should be allowed in the deep end of the pool, especially since I was such a talented doggy-paddler.


I didn't understand why it was fun for me, it just was.


But as I grew older, it became harder and harder to access that expansive imaginary space that made my toys fun. I remember looking at them and feeling sort of frustrated and confused that things weren't the same.


I played out all the same story lines that had been fun before, but the meaning had disappeared. Horse's Big Space Adventure transformed into holding a plastic horse in the air, hoping it would somehow be enjoyable for me. Prehistoric Crazy-Bus Death Ride was just smashing a toy bus full of dinosaurs into the wall while feeling sort of bored and unfulfilled.  I could no longer connect to my toys in a way that allowed me to participate in the experience.


Depression feels almost exactly like that, except about everything.

At first, though, the invulnerability that accompanied the detachment was exhilarating. At least as exhilarating as something can be without involving real emotions.


The beginning of my depression had been nothing but feelings, so the emotional deadening that followed was a welcome relief.  I had always wanted to not give a fuck about anything. I viewed feelings as a weakness — annoying obstacles on my quest for total power over myself. And I finally didn't have to feel them anymore.

But my experiences slowly flattened and blended together until it became obvious that there's a huge difference between not giving a fuck and not being able to give a fuck. Cognitively, you might know that different things are happening to you, but they don't feel very different.


Which leads to horrible, soul-decaying boredom.



I tried to get out more, but most fun activities just left me existentially confused or frustrated with my inability to enjoy them.


Months oozed by, and I gradually came to accept that maybe enjoyment was not a thing I got to feel anymore. I didn't want anyone to know, though. I was still sort of uncomfortable about how bored and detached I felt around other people, and I was still holding out hope that the whole thing would spontaneously work itself out. As long as I could manage to not alienate anyone, everything might be okay!

However, I could no longer rely on genuine emotion to generate facial expressions, and when you have to spend every social interaction consciously manipulating your face into shapes that are only approximately the right ones, alienating people is inevitable.


Everyone noticed.


It's weird for people who still have feelings to be around depressed people. They try to help you have feelings again so things can go back to normal, and it's frustrating for them when that doesn't happen. From their perspective, it seems like there has got to be some untapped source of happiness within you that you've simply lost track of, and if you could just see how beautiful things are...


At first, I'd try to explain that it's not really negativity or sadness anymore, it's more just this detached, meaningless fog where you can't feel anything about anything — even the things you love, even fun things — and you're horribly bored and lonely, but since you've lost your ability to connect with any of the things that would normally make you feel less bored and lonely, you're stuck in the boring, lonely, meaningless void without anything to distract you from how boring, lonely, and meaningless it is.


But people want to help. So they try harder to make you feel hopeful and positive about the situation. You explain it again, hoping they'll try a less hope-centric approach, but re-explaining your total inability to experience joy inevitably sounds kind of negative; like maybe you WANT to be depressed. The positivity starts coming out in a spray — a giant, desperate happiness sprinkler pointed directly at your face. And it keeps going like that until you're having this weird argument where you're trying to convince the person that you are far too hopeless for hope just so they'll give up on their optimism crusade and let you go back to feeling bored and lonely by yourself.


And that's the most frustrating thing about depression. It isn't always something you can fight back against with hope. It isn't even something — it's nothing. And you can't combat nothing. You can't fill it up. You can't cover it. It's just there, pulling the meaning out of everything. That being the case, all the hopeful, proactive solutions start to sound completely insane in contrast to the scope of the problem.

It would be like having a bunch of dead fish, but no one around you will acknowledge that the fish are dead. Instead, they offer to help you look for the fish or try to help you figure out why they disappeared.


The problem might not even have a solution. But you aren't necessarily looking for solutions. You're maybe just looking for someone to say "sorry about how dead your fish are" or "wow, those are super dead. I still like you, though."


I started spending more time alone.


Perhaps it was because I lacked the emotional depth necessary to panic, or maybe my predicament didn't feel dramatic enough to make me suspicious, but I somehow managed to convince myself that everything was still under my control right up until I noticed myself wishing that nothing loved me so I wouldn't feel obligated to keep existing.


It's a strange moment when you realize that you don't want to be alive anymore. If I had feelings, I'm sure I would have felt surprised. I have spent the vast majority of my life actively attempting to survive. Ever since my most distant single-celled ancestor squiggled into existence, there has been an unbroken chain of things that wanted to stick around.


Yet there I was, casually wishing that I could stop existing in the same way you'd want to leave an empty room or mute an unbearably repetitive noise.


That wasn't the worst part, though. The worst part was deciding to keep going.


When I say that deciding to not kill myself was the worst part, I should clarify that I don't mean it in a retrospective sense. From where I am now, it seems like a solid enough decision. But at the time, it felt like I had been dragging myself through the most miserable, endless wasteland, and — far in the distance — I had seen the promising glimmer of a slightly less miserable wasteland. And for just a moment, I thought maybe I'd be able to stop and rest. But as soon as I arrived at the border of the less miserable wasteland, I found out that I'd have to turn around and walk back the other way.


Soon afterward, I discovered that there's no tactful or comfortable way to inform other people that you might be suicidal. And there's definitely no way to ask for help casually.


I didn't want it to be a big deal. However, it's an alarming subject. Trying to be nonchalant about it just makes it weird for everyone.


I was also extremely ill-prepared for the position of comforting people. The things that seemed reassuring at the time weren't necessarily comforting for others.


I had so very few feelings, and everyone else had so many, and it felt like they were having all of them in front of me at once. I didn't really know what to do, so I agreed to see a doctor so that everyone would stop having all of their feelings at me.


The next few weeks were a haze of talking to relentlessly hopeful people about my feelings that didn't exist so I could be prescribed medication that might help me have them again.


And every direction was bullshit for a really long time, especially up. The absurdity of working so hard to continue doing something you don't like can be overwhelming. And the longer it takes to feel different, the more it starts to seem like everything might actually be hopeless bullshit.


My feelings did start to return eventually. But not all of them came back, and they didn't arrive symmetrically.

I had not been able to care for a very long time, and when I finally started being able to care about things again, I HATED them. But hatred is technically a feeling, and my brain latched onto it like a child learning a new word.


Hating everything made all the positivity and hope feel even more unpalatable. The syrupy, over-simplified optimism started to feel almost offensive.


Thankfully, I rediscovered crying just before I got sick of hating things.  I call this emotion "crying" and not "sadness" because that's all it really was. Just crying for the sake of crying. My brain had partially learned how to be sad again, but it took the feeling out for a joy ride before it had learned how to use the brakes or steer.


At some point during this phase, I was crying on the kitchen floor for no reason. As was common practice during bouts of floor-crying, I was staring straight ahead at nothing in particular and feeling sort of weird about myself. Then, through the film of tears and nothingness, I spotted a tiny, shriveled piece of corn under the refrigerator.


I don't claim to know why this happened, but when I saw the piece of corn, something snapped. And then that thing twisted through a few permutations of logic that I don't understand, and produced the most confusing bout of uncontrollable, debilitating laughter that I have ever experienced.


I had absolutely no idea what was going on.


My brain had apparently been storing every unfelt scrap of happiness from the last nineteen months, and it had impulsively decided to unleash all of it at once in what would appear to be an act of vengeance.


That piece of corn is the funniest thing I have ever seen, and I cannot explain to anyone why it's funny. I don't even know why. If someone ever asks me "what was the exact moment where things started to feel slightly less shitty?" instead of telling a nice, heartwarming story about the support of the people who loved and believed in me, I'm going to have to tell them about the piece of corn. And then I'm going to have to try to explain that no, really, it was funny. Because, see, the way the corn was sitting on the floor... it was so alone... and it was just sitting there! And no matter how I explain it, I'll get the same, confused look. So maybe I'll try to show them the piece of corn - to see if they get it. They won't. Things will get even weirder.


Anyway, I wanted to end this on a hopeful, positive note, but, seeing as how my sense of hope and positivity is still shrouded in a thick layer of feeling like hope and positivity are bullshit, I'll just say this: Nobody can guarantee that it's going to be okay, but — and I don't know if this will be comforting to anyone else — the possibility exists that there's a piece of corn on a floor somewhere that will make you just as confused about why you are laughing as you have ever been about why you are depressed. And even if everything still seems like hopeless bullshit, maybe it's just pointless bullshit or weird bullshit or possibly not even bullshit.


I don't know. 

But when you're concerned that the miserable, boring wasteland in front of you might stretch all the way into forever, not knowing feels strangely hope-like. 






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~N. H. Siguenza~ said...

Thank you for being you, and thank you for sharing.

Deb said...

This was such a brilliant description of depression that I'm somewhat floored by it -- like, how come I couldn't get those words to come out? I'm so sorry that you've been dealing with all this. And at the same time, I am almost deliriously happy to see you on the Internet again! I left you in my blog feeds, ever hopeful that you'd return, and it feels like Christmas... You have been sorely missed.

Kate said...

I've been dealing with depression on and off for the past eight months for so although it seems I'm finally on the upswing. Being able to read someone else so clearly explain a lot of the same processes I have been going through and yet did not really comprehend (and which the people around me certainly did not comprehend) is more helpful and comforting than I can really put into words. Thank you so much for writing this.

sarah said...

I see your dead fish! I am sorry they are dead, but we all obviously still like you! And I am so glad that piece of corn was there for you. I hope you keep finding pieces of corn.

Anonymous said...

You have been missed. I hope the sheer number of us that have hoped for your return helps.

Unknown said...

can't tell you how happy I am you're back. Found this post at a time I desperately needed it. Thank you for that. <3

Anonymous said...

This is the very first time I've ever posted to you Allie but I just couldn't not say something. I've gone back an read your blog from beginning to end and laughed my ass off. I've felt very connected to you as I'm sure most of your readers do. But today was pure brilliance. You've explained depression better than I've ever heard or could put into words. I will use this to explain things to my family. The nothingness is the bad part, you can deal with sad and hysterics. But the empty void you can't explain and you can't get across. Thank you Thank you Thank you!!!!

Anonymous said...

I've suffered through many depressions and this post really hit home for me. I just want you to know that even while you may be feeling nothing inside or feeling like you can't relate to anyone, your images and words engender so many feelings and so much laughter among your many readers. I know when you're depressed there are no affirmations that can pull you out of it, but I hope deep down somewhere you realize how talented and amazing you are to your readers!

ChutzpahGrrl said...

Thank you and fuzzy luck to you. I really relate to what you've written except I'm not as humorous as you are! Also, corn: totally hilarious. No, really, I get it. I've had "corn" moments. I think I'm going to send everyone who doesn't understand depression to your page and hope they get it before they try to convince me that I always have perfect control over my depression if I just "try hard enough". Miserable asshats. Also, medication = + for me.

Anonymous said...

I can relate to the mouse. I knew a man who's cat waited by a retaining wall and decapitated chipmunks. Apparently, the mice I've trapped sometimes get dragged around by other mice. I go from checking the traps, to looking for them.

Unknown said...

Welcome back! Your words and pictures mean so much to so many. I'm planning to share this with therapy clients in the future because it so brave and honest.

Kara Stenberg said...

I know a thousand people have already said this and it may seem trite to say it, but this IS one of the most accurate descriptions of depression I've ever read. I'm still struggling with depression and anxiety and have been for a few years and seeing your presence on the net and reading this really made me feel good. I really do wish all the best for you and hope you know you aren't alone in this bizarre mental struggle so many of us are afraid to share. Thank you for sharing with all of us out here.

june said...

Gosh. I feel like you might get a whole lot of unwanted corn mailed to you now. I hope that doesn't happen. I hope you just find more corn on your own.

I think it's kind of funny that the last comment I read on here was by someone named "BS." That's kinda funny, all things considered.

Anonymous said...

Thank you Allie! I've been there and back again. You may not be able to unsee some of the bullshit, but you can begin to see the silliness and fun and ridiculousness of the bullshit. Kind of like the silly bit of corn.
<3

Mishell said...

I'm going through approximately the same thing at approximately the same time and reading this is pretty harrowing.

It isn't one of those things where I can say "I feel less alone because I know someone else is going through this." I'm still alone; everyone in this is alone because no one can go there with you.

It's just, this weird shock of recognition. It's just a new thing to point at and say, "That." I'm glad that someone with a good-sized audience is trying to explain this, because I sure as hell can't and no one would listen anyway. And the more people understand, the more they stop saying the absolutely wrong things. So thank you.

Shivam said...

Whatever it is, seeing your creativity and writing skills I can say it will be good to have you on the positive side.
I understand the LIMBO.
A good read. Thanks

KATE from New Jersey said...

KATE from NJ again.

FUCK. Okay I have to be honest I didn't get to read your post when I made that last comment. I just really wanted to get that message to you before the comment numbers reached the mega-millions level. I wish there was an edit option so I don't sound like so much of an ass, being all suggestive with ideas. I stand by them, i think talking would at least bring a little stimilation into the mix so you're not such a prisoner to your brain. It's cheap, and you can get your mind off trying to "better". Feeling numb sucks, Allie. I've been battling brainfog and apathy for years and I startles me to see how much time can pass you while you're on autopilot. I'm sorry for having over-simplified your situation before. But all I can tell you is to treat it on a chemical level and seeing a neurologist. There is a great impact that your hormones can have on your body at your particular age (when this started) and it's usually when imbalance issues manifest. Combine that with your weaning off of adderall and you have a serious toll onyour physiological equilibrium. I want to stop here because I dont wanna give unwarranted advice. I just hope you can understand that even if you arent "well" you still have a space here to talk and it doesnt have to revolve around "rehabilitating Allie," because that's unrealistic to expect. But it doesn't mean you can't participate any longer. Shit, make a fake alias and talk with people if it makes you feel better. Who cares? Just make getting out of your own rut an acheivable goal that can be apart from the overall mental health goal. And in anycase, it's just the internet! You have no expections here. And you can do it with no pants on! Always a plus. Give the doggies a hug from your fans. I'm gonna go take my medicine because I just realized I'd forgotten and now I'm rambling like a hyperactive idiot. Uhhh. Bye!

D said...

Dunno if you actually read all these comments or if all the nice things people say here phase you or if you still look at them as just hollow words even though you want them to matter.. or if even though so many of us have been there, it might still feel lonely.. but here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p542CHqAGmw&feature=youtube_gdata_player

Things get better.

Anonymous said...

It's great to have you back Allie!

After recently being diagnosed with I found your post oddly supportive but at the same time scary. Thanks for somewhat preparing me for the ride and I look forward to your next post!

dotmund said...

This post is wonderful.

Anonymous said...

Really glad that you're feeling better, even if it is a little. You're an intelligent, funny and beautiful person. The world would be less without you.

Anonymous said...

I am so, so sorry you have felt/are feeling this way and make no mistake, we VERY MUCH still like you anyway. Sorry also if you feel uncomfortable with all of us throwing all our feelings at you but we can't help it- we're all just so thrilled to see posts from you again because you are so brilliant (seriously amazing descriptions of what it is like to be depressed and have everyone try to force "finding" the damned dead fish). Please never forget how deserving you are of love/help/support.

Mandi said...

I just...I just love you

Anonymous said...

I was so glad to see you active again. And I read this and thought, wow, someone has actually written everything out exactly how it is. I do hope you are on the upward trend of this, even though hope is a random bullshit word for me right now too.

If you find a cure, please spell it out for us, just like this.

Also, my piece of corn was a rock. Just a rock. And I kept it to remind myself of how funny the world can be.

Sara said...

Your way with words is amazing, and the drawings - you are so talented! It's inspirational the creativity you put forth. I wish you the best and hope you find some new happy fish.

Anonymous said...

I suffer from depression-- for about ten years I was in really bad shape. The past couple years have been much better for me. You described so many things I went through so perfectly... I work with suicidal persons online now offering support, and I think they'll really like this as well. It's ridiculously hard to explain what it is like to people who haven't experienced it, but you did an incredible job of it. Our dead fish are special: just because they're dead now doesn't mean that they won't come back to life at some point. Maybe they'll be slightly zombified fish, but they can still come back to life.

Mackenzie said...

I'm so glad you're back :) thank you. And thank you for getting help. It's... hard.

lepapillonperdu said...

Love the sweatshirt of depression - so perfect.

GridPoet said...

I love you, i just wanted you to know that. Not in any weird creepy way. I don't love you for what you aren't... i don't even love you for what you are. I just care! So maybe someday you'll be lying on the kitchen floor giggling over a dab of dried bacon grease and you'll remember that there is a real (completely not creepy) human being that loves you and you will shudder because no matter what i say about my creepiness level you will think i am a super creeper (which i definitely am not!) and that might just cause the tiniest spark of feels in the fog of boredom.
Love you Allie!

Anonymous said...

I just want to say thank you. I've never been able to find someone who can also put into words an explanation of what it's like to be miserable and hopeless. For me, it isn't wanting to commit suicide, but more of a just not existing anymore. Like wanting to go home but not quite sure where home is. My roomates get mad at me for being antisocial, but I don't know how to explain to them why I'm that way. I have tried going to doctors and explaining but they claim it's because of situations. Well shit, I guess mediocrity is a depressing situation.

Much like your corn, mine was bird poop that hit my windshield while driving.

For someone else who feels the same, I have a question. Do you get mad at people who don't come back when you push them away?

Anonymous said...

welcome back - we've missed you!

Cyanide said...

My piece of corn was the sound that the sun roof made in my mom's car.

Ember said...

I'm glad you're back, Allie. Your honesty is the most beautiful thing.

And that corn *is* hilarious. At least, I was laughing hysterically AND crying while reading about it. I don't have any damn clue why, either, but at least you've successfully gotten your feelings about it across to your reader base here!

Anonymous said...

I've gone through more than a couple bouts like this, and you described it to a T. It's so hard sometimes to explain to people what's happening!

Anyway, I wanted to say that the whole nothing-sadness-hatred-weird laughter thing is more like a loop. I've found the weird laughter thing is like your emotions coming back online, and if you can take the positivity from that and muster the energy to be around people and have interaction, it oftens blooms into positivity and can be really uplifting....does that make sense? I am also very ADD and tend to ramble on sometimes ;-)

Anonymous said...

Thank you! You rock! One day at a time we get better!

jackalsilva said...

Just so everyone knows, the pic of the 'brain throwing hate' works GREAT as a facebook cover pic. It lines up pretty well so that it looks like it's throwing HATE on your profile pic with the words I HATE ME! clearly visible.

meleah rebeccah said...

I am thrilled you're back. Thank you for sharing this story. The fish metaphor is absolutely perfect. And I will never look at a piece of corn the same way!

Anonymous said...

This should be standard offering at every counseling and doctors office, worldwide. The number of people who can relate to and be helped by this, probably surpasses that of the best drugs combination available.

I don't know you Allie, but thank you.

Lisa @ Lisa Moves said...

I am so glad you are back. Sending warm thoughts in your direction, and hoping things improve for you.

Rob said...

I'll say this much.
I've been looking for ages for someone to write down the exact process that my head went through just under 18 months ago, and I think you've got it nearly spot on. Reading your story makes me realise how desperate I had become in my struggles, and I hope it helps other people realise that there is support there, and that people aren't all out to get you.

Anonymous said...

I love you, Allie. I will always love you no matter how many of your fish are dead. My sister has dead fish too. It took me a while to understand exactly how dead they were, and that getting new fish wouldn't help with the ones that had passed on, but I'm finally starting to understand, and she's gotten help and is starting to feel better too. I hope that someday there appears to be less bullshit in your imminent future. And part of me hopes that even though your fish are dead, you end up getting some awesome parrots instead. Or maybe trilobites.

Anonymous said...

i can't really say I know how you feel cuz i'm usually upbeat about everything. but, your writing is very good and enjoyable.
keep up the good work and 'hopefully', you'll be surprised one day.

really, you're very talented. wish i had that.

Deanna said...

I'm so glad you're back. I've never experienced what you've described except for 3 hours when I took a codeine perscription and I decided mixing booze and tylenol made more sense than ever having to not feel that way again. Glad you got your laughter back. Remember to breath.

sunshinytulips said...

So happy to see you back online! When ever I need a good laugh I pull up your site and read your story about never being a grown up or the sneaky hate spiral! Always puts a smile on my face and makes me look crazy because of my uncontrollable laughter coming from my desk at work. I will pray that you continue to get well and HAPPY!!

Caitlin Joy Ryan said...

Just wanted to say I found this treasure of a blog in your leave of absence, but it made me smile a lot during these past few months. I'm really stoked your writing again.

Unknown said...

Wow, I completely understand. For the last year or so I've been dealing with my own depression (though mine exhibits itself through more of a death anxiety).

I found that the right medication really did help me out a lot. Once I started taking something I felt like myself again and I could actually deal with what was going on internally.

I hope you keep improving, we are all glad your are back and feeling better. Much love dear.

Unknown said...

rhank you so much for writing this - it'sperhaps the most eloquent description of depression I've read - I can remember the nothing phase and the crying phase (sorry to the poor Irish waitress who served me and my partner dinner where i just wept throughout), my sweetcorn moment was seeing a dog forget to stop running and falling into a pond. I laughed and cried and went home smelling of stinky wet dog but feeling that maybe there wouldn't be no point after all. there are still nothing days and weepy days but there are sweetcorn and wet dog days and that makes it ok. Thanks again for sharing and I hope your sweetcorn days multiply xx

Anonymous said...

No matter how dead the fish are or were... we still love you.

Anonymous said...

So awesome, I almost started that weird assed crying you were talking about. You tell the story well. Loved this to infinity and freaking beyond.

Unknown said...

Allie, thank you so much for this post. I've been trying and failing to describe what advanced depression feels like to my roommate.

This might help keep me from getting thrown out on the street someday.

I'm starting to come out of the worst of mine too. I just went back on meds a month ago. *hugs*

Anonymous said...

The comic just nails it. People don't like using the word "survivor" to describe people who've had clinical depression, but having firsthand experience of it myself, yes, we are survivors.

Damn it's good to hear you're okay.

Anonymous said...

WHAAAT you're back!! YAY!! I've checked this everyday since I found it and never lost hope you would post again whoopee!! I haven't even read the post yet so I'm on my way to go do that now.

Allison Hart @ Motherhood, WTF? said...

This might be the best description of depression I have ever read. I've tried explaining it to people, but they all think that depression = sadness. In fact, I've had people explain that I'm NOT depressed because of that time I laughed at that thing. I'm glad you're on your way up, and I want to tell you how smart and brave you are for putting it out there like this. Also, depression has never been so funny. Your pictures, as always, are perfectly hilarious.

BarnChick said...

I'm so sorry about your fish... if you want help planning the funeral, or a good recipe, let me know! *hugs*

Hilabeans said...

So glad to see you back, Allie.

I've been there, too. I lost most of my 20s to one stage or another of what you described in this post - and this is the best explanation of depression I've ever read.

Protip: Remember to eat regularly (it helps surprisingly much).

It can get better. It's a tough journey, but it can.

Ally04401 said...

Hey Miss Allie,

Thank you. I missed you. I'm sorry.

Other Ally

Anonymous said...

I can absolutely relate. People are so frustrating, and I've gone months at a time when my only feeling was frustration with hopeful people. For the people with loved ones who are struggling with depression: Positive thinking is NOT THE ANSWER. Think bad things doesn't make me feel nothing. I'm not thinking anything at all. I have no inspiration to.

Thanks, Allie, for another thoughtful post that will hopefully give more people the tools for discussing their emotional problems.

Anonymous said...

i know these feels.
for me it wasn't all my sappy supportive friends it was just one friend. who found me crying on my kitchen floor wearing just a plaid shirt and underwear and promptly stripped down, grabbed one of my other plaid shirts and said "so it's plaid shirt underwear day? why didn't you tell me". that was the most i'd laughed in a year at that point.

Gentian said...

Been there, a couple of times. First time was the worst of course because I couldn't say "oh yes, I remember this, and I remember it ended."

For me I felt like I spent months hanging onto the edge of a very slippery bottomless hole, trying not to let go & fall. Couldn't climb up and out.

At the time I had no idea that the crying was the turning point. But it was. I remember one day where I simply sat and sobbed and sobbed and sobbed.

And it wasn't long after that that the depression ended. Just ended. I didn't climb up and out. The hole just . . . went away. I don't know why. I don't even know why I was depressed. But one day, not long after the day of endless sobbing, I woke up and went "oh . . . so THAT'S over."

Whatever was going on was clearly on the unconscious, irrational level. I choose to think there was something wise about it that my rational mind knows nothing about.

Bam-Bam said...

Beautiful! Thank you!!!

Anonymous said...

thank you for this: brilliant and hilarious and frighteningly familiar.

Anonymous said...

This brought me to tears remembering how I felt during the worst parts of my depression, especially the lack of feelings, the not wanting to be alive, and the hatred for all the people that keep trying to make you be happy and positive when it just isn't there. I still have corn moments, and people still think I'm weird for it. I really hope you've turned the corner, and I look forward to your next post x

Anonymous said...

This helps me more than any therapist ever has. Thank you.

Liz said...

Thank you for this. This is one of the best things I've read about depression in a long time - and it's especially poignant given that I'm at the same stage you are. I'm starting to feel things again and get shit done after four years on autopilot and it's really fucking weird.

ANOTHER RANDOM INTERNET STRANGER LOVES YOU!

Anonymous said...

Oh man, thank you so very much for this. I really and truly needed something like this. It might just be my piece of corn because you had me dying laughing, and I had the floor crying just this week. Bravo. What can be said other than thank you for expressing these things. Like Kurt Vonnegut said, "I write so others will know they are not alone." Keep up the good work and hope it gets better for you.

Emery said...

Allie, you have once again beautifully captured what it's like to live in that wasteland of nothingness. And the corn anecdote...SO TRUE. I've done that before and my family looks at me like I've completely lost my mind. Which I had, kind of.

Thanks for writing this, and I'm glad you've come back out the other side again.

Aritê gunê Akasa said...

This.
Thank you for getting across to so many people how depression actually [lacks the] feels and how what sounds like a solution to a happy person doesn't necessarily work.
And it's good to know that you've found a little stepping stone of a piece of corn. Here's hoping you find a whole cob's worth of them.

Anonymous said...

This is literally one of the best and mos touching things I've ever seen - I feel the exact same way and if someone so awesome as you can suffer from depression, maybe I'm not as shitty as I think I am, and we will both come out the other end successfully.

Audrey said...

I never thought I would be laughing so much about something that is so dark and annoying to have in my life. Thank you for putting it into words, I may need to carry this around and show it to people who dont get why Im so "mopey" ugh. Thank you, and sorry for the douche baggery that is depression.

Kevin said...

Thank you for this.

I hope everyone's and my comments serve to let you know that you're not alone. Many of us have been there.

I wish you luck, and thank you again.

Anonymous said...

This is the best description of depression I've ever read. What I went through is so similar.. Thank you so much for sharing this.

VegansHaveSuperPowers said...

Glad you're back Allie! We've missed you!
I can related. I went through severe depression all through my teens and 20s. I remember people trying to make it better but I just didn't care about anything, I felt numb and everything felt meaningless. One day in my mid 20s I got sick of feeling numb and just told myself I was going to be happy , and it's amazing how my life turned around from there even though it took time and effort, it was worth it. It's not the same for everyone going through depression, some people need professional help or medical assistance but for me it was as simple as making the decision to be happy.
I hope you get there one day Allie, I really do. Cause life is wonderful xxx

EssGee said...

I think you are the corn, Allie. It's kind of funny that that works on multiple levels, since your unique humor (even when you can't appreciate humor yourself, no less) is such a bright spot to so many people.

But it was also.. Shriveled, alone, on the kitchen floor, surrounded by darkness and nothing, in a place where it may have never escaped save for some crazy chance? Isn't that you?

I don't know. That's how I saw it, and from that light the hilarity of it seems pretty clear and well-deserved to me. What were the odds that two lonely little things would encounter each other on your kitchen floor?

...Now how did I find your talking about being suicidal slightly adorable (your post yesterday was right, go figure), then manage to tear up in a primarily analytical non-emotional comment?

Anyway... As most everyone else has said, whatever the reason or lack of reason for your enjoyment of the corn, I'm glad you found something.

Viollante said...

My best friend recently told me that she's depressed and I just hope I handled it okay. I'm sorry your fish died, and I'm glad they are slightly zombie-ish fish now. I hope that they can level up and become super-alive fish. <3

no one said...

YOu should make this post into a book. It is the most insightful description of depression I have ever read and it should be something that doctors have in their offices so that patients, and more importantly their families and friends, can read it.

Josietron said...

Thanks. Went through the same thing for years in my late 20s, but could never articulate it as well. You're a gem.

Marjorie said...

I am so very glad that you are back,and feel able to tweet and blog. (and very sad that you have been through such a lot to get here)
I hope things get better.
And I don't understand why it was fuunny, but you managed to write about the corn in a way that had be laughing, so there's that. Maybe I'm strange too. Or maybeytou're just a very good writer. Or both.

Unknown said...

I am glad that you're back; I missed you.

Now, I realize that sounds super-stalky, but it's not meant in a "You're my long lost hopeless sexy thing!" kind of way. It's more of as "I devoured all of your blog posts in a single day and was sad when they ran out," and an "I've eaten all of my Halloween candy already, and it's not even November yet," kind of way.

You are awesome. Everything you have ever written (well, maybe with an exception or two) is golden. I mean, like brighter-than-a-brand-new-nickel-on-the-sun golden. Comic genius, seemingly tailored for brain pans like mine.

I don't typically read blogs, but I have yours bookmarked. And every time I see an "All the things!" picture, shamelessly stolen and plastered on some random meme site, I make sure to remind them that hyperbole-and-a-half is where it came from.

Keep on keeping on, Allie. I promise I won't stalk you.

angela said...

This was so good and true and funny!

Thank you so much for your drawings; the sense of timing and facial expressions were amazing

Thank you for giving expression to depression and maybe make other people understand a little better if they have never had the experience.

Really good. Will read more of your stuff after my final. :(

Unknown said...

So glad you're back! We love you even if your fish are dead!

Unknown said...

Love it! one of the best posts! Happy to see you back. I missed your drawings and stories!

Unknown said...

I'm so thrilled to see another post! I've been dealing with depression myself, but I recently went back on medication and it seems to be helping a little so far... it's also only been two weeks, so I'm hoping things will be looking up soon. I think this post may be just the little kernel of corn I needed, though. :) Thank you, thank you, thank you for posting this. I know at times it may feel like it, but know that you aren't ever really alone. If you haven't heard of it, you might look into To Write Love On Her Arms. Anytime I'm feeling really lonely, TWLOHA reminds me that there are so many other people in the world going through something similar. You are loved, Allie. We all missed you. *Hugs*

Melvis said...

1. I've missed you. You make me laugh like a piece of corn under the fridge.

2. I've also missed pictures of the stupid dog. Nice to see it again.

3. My brother has had severe depression and I thought I understood, but now I see I was like all of those dead fish people at different times. Thank you for explaining it so clearly. That's more insightful than anything else I've read.

4. You are seriously talented to be able to communicate something as difficult and personal as this so well.

5. Sorry about your fish. I still like you though.

Anonymous said...

It's clear we missed you ALOT!!! Now imagine an alot giving you a high five.

Unknown said...

So glad you're back! We love you even if your fish are dead!

Stephanie said...

Thank you. This is brilliant and sadly very familiar to me. Thank you for being brave and vulnerable enough to share it with the world.

Anonymous said...

Have you been living in my head all this time? I'm at the crying phase this week, but I haven't found my corn yet. You understand, and I'm not crazy. I'll hold on to that till I check under the fridge.

Unknown said...

Oh, I've missed you, Ali. I've thought about you a lot since you last posted. I also suffer from anxiety & depression, and it's been a VERY rough year and a half for me. You know there's not much I can say to make this better for you, but you've got people in your corner...just keep truckin'.

Doug said...

I had my own piece of corn a while back. Bit of fuzz on otherwise spotless table. Funniest damn thing I had seen in a long while.

Desiree said...

Thank you for sharing this very personal story told so amazingly well & with pictures! LOVE LOVE LOVE! Did I tell you that I love it? Yep, love it. And I agree, the fish metaphor is genius.

Ty said...

I just checked your blog on Monday to see if you'd posted anything new, then this one started popping up on my Facebook feed today.

Glad to see that you're back, but sorry to hear that you've been going through rough times still.

Your blog entry made my snicker, laugh, and cry. What a delicious range of emotions you inspire!

You should start making jewelry out of mummified vegetables and sell them as laughter pendants.

Anonymous said...

Thank you. THis is awesome. I don't know how I bumped into it (it was on my FaceBook) but I really never read such a perfect description of how I feel. I cried. I'm still crying so I guess I'm doing okay for now. Crap. I'm at work.

Anonymous said...

Allie, it is amazing to know that you are able to create again. I hope and pray you stay strong and continue your journey.
As many of your readers already said, I have been going through similar stuff. It sucks. But thank you for sharing with us.
I think other people feel this way, but I can say for myself that your posts have helped me more than you can ever imagine.
So thank you for this post and for everything.
Be well.

Unknown said...

What an accurate description of depression. I've been struggling with it on and off for years and it's always been hard to put into words.

I've experienced really random hysterical laughter too, so I thought it was especially funny.

I sincerely hope you find more happiness each day. With love.

Anya said...

Allie, I'm so happy you decided to share this. You don't know how relatable (Is that a word?) this is. Seriously.

And...and...I am so happy you're not dead. Was beginning to worry a little. *hugs*

Kate Geisen said...

I'm glad you're back, and thank you for this. I feel like it gives me a little peek of what depression is like so that I could hopefully respond more helpfully / less un-helpfully.

Anonymous said...

a single shriveled up piece of corn sitting under the fridge IS funny. I would have laughed too. Not hysterically, but it's a totally random occurrance and as such, funny. You go girl.

Nicole said...

You got this, Allie. I'm glad to see you back!

JoAnna Wahlund said...

I'm sorry you've had (and are still having) such a difficult time, corn notwithstanding, but I'm so glad you're back. I hope the road becomes less full of meaningless bullshit the farther down on it you travel. :)

Anonymous said...

I'm depressed too, I and I recently got on medicine for it. I know exactly how this feels and this is by far the best explanation for it that I have ever seen. Your writing is absolutely brilliant and spot on. You are so impressive, and thank you so much.

ShawnS said...

Wishing myself out of existence is where I've been for years.

I'm glad you made it out and somewhere inside that does give me hope that I will too even though I can't feel it right now.

siguy said...

Well I hope that it makes you feel something (maybe even something good) to know that you are not alone. Clearly many people are no stranger to this situation.

I'm glad you're back. I severely enjoy your pictures and words.

DashAttack said...

I've suffered from depression and it is not a fun experience, but holy shit you made it seem like a magical journey that has me slightly confused and greatly amused.

Glad you're back.

krepperk said...

I can really relate to a lot of the things you wrote about in the comic and it made me laugh, a lot, both at the absurdity of my own story and at how you presented yours. Thanks!

Unknown said...

I am someone who is happy. Every single day. Almost every single moment (and I say almost because I'm sure there's a fragment of PMS that might sneak in every few months). Even that vanishes if I take a nap or watch a movie.

I basically have the anti-depression, and it's marvelous.

I have so much happy that I wish I could cut off chunks and distribute it to others.

I know that you're likely to reach a LOT of people who are suffering the way you are, but I want you to know this articles doesn't only help them.

It helps people like me come to understand a little bit. It tells me what not to do and gives me insight on what some of my friends are going through.

You explain concepts, emotions and events with pure brilliancy. I'm convinced you are at genius level.

Thank you. And next time a friend comes to me with depression, I'll simply let them know that the fish is dead.

Anonymous said...

So brave, so talented. Thank you for sharing. You are awesome. That took a lot. X

Kendall G. Pack said...

I wrote a blog post last summer entitled "Whither Allie Brosh" in an attempt to gather followers to my own blog simply by tagging your name (though there was a legitimate desire to answer the question, "Hey, Where'd she go?"). The moment I saw the new post today, I said to myself, "It's your shot! People are going to flock to you!" and set about writing a follow-up post. But after reading this, I scrapped the idea. Your honesty exploded my greed. Thanks.

Anonymous said...

I love you, and I'm so glad you're back. What you've written is almost exactly what I have gone through, just replace corn with glare on a bus window. <3 (everyone thought I was crazy)

Zach Meyer said...

As a big fan and a therapist, I'm so happy you're on your way out of your depression, and I think I'll be using this post with my depressed clients. You capture the emptiness of depression so well. But depression, just like pure optimism, is a lie. I'm glad you're beginning to see that now. May your future be full of many pieces of funny corn!

Anonymous said...

Hey... I've been there. I've been waiting and dying just for someone to say "Hey, those fish are dead." Why on earth no one can acknowledge the death of the fish has been beyond me for a long time. Thanks... this really nailed depression. <3

Anonymous said...

Thank you for this. I know it must have been tough. Everything you wrote is so familiar. Like looking in a mirror... only... not all backwards. And you probably don't have a huge beard.

The only "feelings" I tend to have is anger at myself because I'm not doing a good job of being there for my 5 year old son. I mean, I'm there... I go to work, I support him, I do homework with him, I take him to soccer.. I'm just not "there". He deserves so much better.

Anonymous said...

Thank you!

My boyfriend fell into a depression so deep I couldn't begin to understand it. I feel like you just explained and then illustrated all the things I couldn't understand.

I'm glad that you are getting the help that you need (he is too). I am SO grateful for your post.

Unknown said...

I can completely identify with this. Cheerful people exhaust me.

Unknown said...

Allie: I've been through and am going through much of what you describe. You have company out here. I'm told misery loves it! Hang in there.

Anonymous said...

You are amazing! I can't begin to describe how much I relate to everything you said. I've never read anything about depression that sounds as accurate as this, it's like you read my mind. Keep on keeping on! I hope everyone finds their piece of corn :)

Lila said...

Oh THANK YOU SO MUCH. I should have that dead fish thing tattooed on me. EXACTLY.

So glad you're back! Because YOU RULE.

Anonymous said...

This is one of the most succinct explanations of depression I have found.
I am currently on a working holiday, and realized I was depressed when I had no interest in seeing this place I had imagined for years and would rather stay in my bed and stare at the ceiling.
I am glad you are blogging again :)

morrigan said...

I'm at the place where I have sad and frightened, and occasionally a bit of corn will make me insanely happy for a very short time...

The thing that helped most was 'mindfulness based behavioral therapy' which is kind of based in cbt and kind of meditation...it really worked but I can't usually make myself do it.

Good luck on your walk back out of the wasteland.

morrigan said...

I'm at the place where I have sad and frightened, and occasionally a bit of corn will make me insanely happy for a very short time...

The thing that helped most was 'mindfulness based behavioral therapy' which is kind of based in cbt and kind of meditation...it really worked but I can't usually make myself do it.

Good luck on your walk back out of the wasteland.

Anonymous said...

Brilliant. Just brilliant.
I've felt these things and never knew what to call it.

rachel said...

Thank you.

Unknown said...

I am thrilled at how accurately you are able to portray the thoughts and (non)feelings of depression. I never found the words, and I have shared this post and your prior depression post with many people in hopes of giving them at least a glimpse of what it's like. Wonderful to know others have been there, too.

Anonymous said...

I am sorry you had such a difficult journey, and I'm sure it is difficult still. May today be better than yesterday and only half as good as tomorrow. For the rest of your life.

Allie said...

As an Allie who is working through the tail end of this, I found myself laughing with a friend about how familiar it sounds (as well as cringing for the same reason).

My solution? A DBT program. Dialectical Behavioral Therapy. Instead of talking about your feelings, they find ways to fix things. "Oh, you're thinking this? Do this skill." It's hard, but the solution-focused nature of it is so gratifying.

It's working for me. I hope it can work for some of you, too. It's changing my life so much for the better.

Cheers,
Allie (H, not B)

Anonymous said...

Great post! It is part of evolving, it seems, especially if you come out of it with a new interest or focus. Maybe a brief period of "dormancy," like that of your corn, has its purpose. However, your corn was probably cooked, lol! I hope you incorporated it into some mixed media painting.

This reminds me of satirist, Tom Lehrer, taking the "this is bullshit" aspect of pigeons and nuclear threats, among other things, and finding humor in our very human frustrations. Lookup his songs on YouTube sometime.

Bea Eloise said...

I love you. Thank you for this.

Anonymous said...

I'm so glad to see that you are working on being okay again! I know it won't matter much now or maybe ever, but it made me feel so much better that you're still around and youre starting to get better! Sometimes everything is too hard, and sometimes everyone needs that time to be unhappy or feel nothing or worried that they feel nothing.
And sometimes people don't need to see a sun rise - they need a piece of corn on a floor that makes just as little sense as you feel you do sitting on the same floor to bring some kind of emotion back in that makes things better enough for you to stand up again.

I dunno... rambles.

But I know how you felt on some of those days, I think, and I'm really really glad that you're starting to feel better. Because your posts have made a lot of my shitty days a little better, and you deserve all the happiness in the world. As soon as youre ready to feel it :)

Amanda G said...

MY BEST FRIEND AND I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS POST FOR OVER A YEAR. We missed you so much. We would occasionally go back and dramatically reread your old posts for fun, but it wasn't the same as reading a new one and experiencing those pictures for the first time. You are wonderful, absolutely wonderful. You have brightened our undergrad and lives with your stories. ROCK ON!

MikaOnida said...

Thank you for sharing. I laughed and cried through this whole thing. I've been there. When your last post left off on invincible I was worried for you because that usually comes right before being bored with life.

I'm glad to hear you've made it through bored and, with the help of your doctor, into feelings again. The roller coaster sucks but it's better than the nothing and it leads to balanced.

Best wishes on a speedy recovery Allie. You deserve it.

Love Alot said...

Welcome back Alli. They are a crazy roller coaster ride but try to enjoy (when you get that one back) your newfound emotions. Maybe you'll find joy in toys again, if only for a brief while. So not hating that you are stronger than the depression and fighting the lies it tells.

Laura Flowers said...

For the first time ever, your post made me cry instead of laugh. It was a brilliant explanation of depression, and I plan on reading it again when my mood swings the other direction so I can laugh at it too :) Hugs from someone else who knows what it's like to be accosted by well-meaning hope hippies in the face of zombie-like detachment.

Will said...

I only found your blog last week, so I read them all and THEN YOU CAME BACK THE NEXT WEEK. So, no 'welcome back' from me, but please post every week consistently from now on.

Wapsipinicon said...

Wow! When I was sick a couple of years ago, I found the feelings of meaninglessness incredibly hard to articulate to doctors or anyone else. You did an amazing job of it. Thank you!

Anonymous said...

Damn you're good!
it hit me right in the feels... glad that you are back, keep up the good work!

Anonymous said...

I haven't found my corn yet. I'm see-sawing between nothing and crying. I'm glad you have, though.

Anonymous said...

"there's a huge difference between not giving a fuck and not being able to give a fuck"

Gave me shivers and is really making re-evaluate my attitude. This is making me change my question from "Do I give a fuck?" to "Can I give a fuck?"

I think I'm very scared to answer this new question. Anyway, thanks for the epiphany.

Holly Marsh said...

Allie, talking about your dead fish was the best description of this I could hope to read. Thank you so much for writing, and sharing, and not stopping.
We've never met, but I love you.

Anonymous said...

Funny you should post this on the same day my friend shares this link:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xmpYnxlEh0c

Anonymous said...

This helps me understand my best friend so much more. She struggles with bipolar, and when she hits her depressions and thinks about/attempts suicide, I don't know what to do or what she wants me to do or who she could go to that might actually be able to help her. I'm so glad that I can see it from the other side, so I don't have to keep looking for her dead fish. Thank you.

Anonymous said...

Allie, you are blogging my life. Thanks for doing it with humor and humility. I've missed your blogs, and thankful you are posting in the midst of this. And my dog is happy to see her avatar in your puppies :)

Melanie Bendis said...

I'm so happy that you are finding your way back, Allie.

<3

Allison said...

Thank you for sharing your story - depression is just such bullshit and trying to cope with it leads to so much more bullshit. I've been doing it for over 20 years and sometimes it's better, sometimes worse, often times just meh. I hope you know how much you're helping other people, how much you were missed and how happy I am to see you writing again. I hope it all continues to get better.

Jon M said...

Thank you for posting this. I don't think any of us can pretend to understand exactly what you're going through, but just know that you help a lot of people when you put yourself out there like that and share with us, and we appreciate that.

Unknown said...

Thank you for this, this whole post hit pretty close to home for me as of late. Even today, I was having a shit day until I read this. So thank you very much.

Unknown said...

Glad you're back. I've been going through tough times myself and this post makes me feel a little better about them. I think the universal thing that helps people that suffer from mental illness is familiarity on behalf of someone else, and while this post doesn't explicitly fix my problems, it certainly does give me more hope.

Thanks for that, and welcome back.

Anonymous said...

Hi Allie. I'm sorry your feelings died. Maybe the corn was a feeling seed and that's why it caused uncontrollable laughter, and therefore maybe everything ISN'T hopeless bullshit! I hope you grow new feelings that are just as funny as your old ones. I love you!

Alexa said...

I have been struggling with depression and anxiety for the past 4-5 months now and I'm just so glad you posted again. The first part of this and now the second part really helps. Especially when you feel like a hopeless dumbass because you can't even motivate yourself to get up and take a shower every day.

Thank you.

Rudi said...

Hey wow! You're alive! Welcome back!

Here is some happiness: C: C: C: C: C:

Anonymous said...

So much of what you said I can relate to, especially the part about asking for help. Thank you for being brave and posting this. So glad you're back.

May said...

I LOVE THIS. I'm so glad you're back. Thank you. You're making my days better.

Unknown said...

The toys, the fish, the corn... This is the best explanation of depression I have ever read, and so accurately describes how it "felt."

Welcome back to the world of feeling Allie. I've learned since then that my thoughts and my feelings may not coincide, and neither can 100% be trusted to describe the reality of the world. Accepting that has gotten me through the worst of it.

MXP said...

It's amazing how much I get this. Not just the depression, but the reversal.

It's not so much the corn, it's the context. This lonely corn kernel under the fridge that you can only see when you're miserable and crying. It's like the corn is you. And that's funny. Your depression is represented by corn under a fridge and that's hilarious. Corn under a fridge is the sign your brain has been waiting for while teetering on the edge of nonexistence, and that's fucking hysterical. FLOOR CORN.

Anonymous said...

You are so amazingly insightful.

It was a relief to see a new post appear. Your current emotional turbulence sounds scary, but less so than the numbness. I hope the roller-coaster levels off soon.

Anonymous said...

LAUGH AT ALL THE CORN!

Good to see you back :)

Speddie said...

I hope you corn a lot more often, and maybe at more appropriate things as time goes on, so you don't have to juice or throw dead fish as often. xxoo

Gabby said...

Thanks Allie. I wish I had a witty or encouraging comment but I don't. Just happy to see you posting again. You're the first blog I have ever followed...ever. So I was totally bummed when I ran out of awesome hilarious posts. You know there was so much in my head that I wanted to tell you...but leaving a comment is like writting on a birthday card at work. If you know the person, the stuff you want to say probably shouldn't be public knowledge. If you don't then you just write "happy birthday, gabby" Happy birthday Allie
Gabby

incurable hippie said...

I love you even more than I already did.

Anonymous said...

I feel this way so often. After your last depression post, I was so happy because I felt like you understood me, or I understood you, or something. I hope everything gets better for you and everyone that feels this way frequently or infrequently. It's a bitch.

firsttimereader said...

I have finally stopped crying enough to comment. Brilliantly expressed and so spot-on that it's heart-wrenching. The drawings are perfect.

Thank you for articulating this so cogently and accessibly.

berrychi84 said...

Thank you. I finally have a way to explain what I feel to my mother. You're beautiful, and this means a lot to people that have a hard time putting things into words.

Anonymous said...

Yep. This. All of it. I want to print this out and show it to a few people. "Read this. Now stop looking at me." So glad you're back! Big hugs and all the corn. :)

Anonymous said...

I am really glad to see you're posting again! I've missed your blog.

On a more personal note, though - THANK YOU. Thank you for taking the time to illustrate depression so brilliantly. I've been there, my sense of hope has long since been restored, but my god is it impossible to explain what depression is like to someone else who hasn't gone through it! Except you seem to make it look so easy (and somehow enjoyable to read, which is both scary and refreshing!). You are truly gifted, and I hope to see a lot more from you in the near future.

THANK YOU.

Anonymous said...

Hehee... corn! CORN!

Michele said...

Possibly the best description of how depression feels that I've ever seen. Thank you.

Alisha said...

Every word of this resonated with me, but probably not in the same way it has for everyone else. I have my yearly bouts of depression (Whoo, Seasonal Affective Disorder - can't tell you how awesome it makes you feel to tell people you can be taken out by a lack of sun), but they are nothing compared to what my boyfriend has.

I've lived with a man for two years who has terrible anxiety, both generalized and social (large groups of people, not even on the radar of things he can handle), crippling depression (we've had the "I want to die" conversation more than a few times). Everything you said here are things that have come out of his mouth before, in one way or another.

The most frustrating thing, he says, is that people can't SEE that he's broken. If he had a broken leg, they'd understand that. If he had a brain tumor, they'd understand that. If he had a heart condition, they'd understand that, and no one would expect him to magically fix those things. But mental illness is something no one can see, and so everyone thinks they have an answer.

I don't even know what I'm saying here, other than that things are bullshit and maybe they always will be but maybe you can figure out a way to live with the weird bullshit, like we have.

Thanks for this.

Unknown said...

Hi Hyperbole

this is a great post thanks heaps for sharing. I've been in this situation myself and I still find myself greatly disliking overly bubbly/cheerful people (especially when they don't seem to get sarcasm, boredom or black humour or intelligent and informed opinions). Keep laughing at the corn, but if you can't that's ok, just keep being yourself.
PS- in this world of skimming posts/internet pages/facebook I always read your posts and enjoy doing so - thanks again :)

Unknown said...

I'm sorry your fish were dead.

Thank you for deciding to keep crawling through the desert.

Verbal hugs to you. And to your kernel of corn.

Kieran Andersen said...

You're just so brilliant. What else can be said? Glad you are recovering.

Anonymous said...

Nailed it exactly

Anonymous said...

Thank you for posting this. It's scary how closely I can relate to this, and I can only hope that people who have never felt this way understand some of it so they'll be able to deal with depressed people better.

I've been keeping you in my RSS feeds hoping you'd be back, and I'm so glad I was right. No matter how much everything seems like bullshit, keep going! It may never stop seeming like bullshit, but that doesn't mean it can't be fun :)

Anonymous said...

I've never been able to explain this so well. I understand and I am so glad you are back.

Sending love to you. (I know, I know... feelings. ugh)

Lindsay said...

So- I wrote this really great comment, and then it got all messed up / not posted / deleted. Thus, here is attempt #2.

First of all, thank you for being cool enough to share your experiences with depression. I feel like its still a taboo subject and really misunderstood (much like you depicted). I think being more candid about such experiences and providing a venue to actually share such things is enormously beneficial.

I personally have been dealing with depression since around age 11 (which evoked a bizzare combination of worthlessness and self-importance). I spent most of the time thinking that I was weak for being like that, and that there was something wrong with me (which, well, there was, but beyond my control). This sort of perpetuated a downward self-hate spiral.

Lots of fun.

Anyway, I realize you have roughly a fuck-ton of comments, but I wanted to thank you for sharing this experience. You are good people.

Also, you're a BAMF. Totes.

Anonymous said...

I'm so glad you're back, Allie.

Unknown said...

I found the piece of corn hilarious. Did you eat it?

Michelle said...

I'm cheering for you girl! I can't say I know exactly how it feels, but I've felt somewhat adjacent feelings before. Words don't help in this situation so here's some fluff fluff fluff fluff happy happy happy feels.

Anonymous said...

I cried when i read this, because i feel the blues you are describing right now. But now i'm going to get up and cook bolognese.

Thank you.

Anonymous said...

Whole post is so wonderful, thank you for finding a way to share all this!

Moment that stood out the most, laughed out loud, first time I've seen that moment reflected, and so well, anywhere, was the inept comforting of people you've just informed that, "No, no suicide, but death would be nice... can I get you a beverage?"

Thank you! May you always have sun in your day, and may you always find a way to make such good art.

Kim Campbell said...

Thank you, thank you, thank you! You give us all hope. You are amazing and I am so glad you are back. Please stay!

Anonymous said...

Allie, Thank you.

Anonymous said...

Thank you for putting to words what others feel often. It is so hard to explain these feelings and you did it so well. You need to write a book, maybe call it "the lighter side of the unknown". A book that puts words and pictures to unspeakable pain.

Olga said...

I never knew that is what depressed people go through. Thank you! I love your original mind! Keep writing! Your experiences add value to the world!

The Happy Homeowner said...

So happy you're back!!!

Sarah said...

I wish I had something profound or funny to say but..well I guess that's why I don't have a comic with hundreds of thousands of followers. All I will say is I'm more pleased than I can say that things are looking better for you. Selfishly I'm delighted you're back as I've missed your posts a lot. Thank you for sharing your story, I hope it helps in the battle to increase understanding of depression xoxo

Anonymous said...

I'm hoping I find a "piece of corn" to brighten my day. This is truly inspiring. Thanks!

Anonymous said...

I think you thought the corn was funny because you saw yourself in it. You thought you were a tiny, shriveled up piece of nothing on the kitchen floor. The corn was actually that thing and you were laughing at yourself.

Anonymous said...

I am glad that single piece of corn helped you out, and to see you posting again :)

Zuri said...

I feel like the thing that keeps me going (and is sometimes scary) is that things always change and I am always changing so whatever's happening it eventually changes. And sometimes you just have to feel shitty...but I'd rather really like and enjoy my life and have awesome things happen.

Monique (A Half-Baked Notion) said...

Never mind all the drugs to make us feel "better"... the world needs a drug that shows the uninitiated what depression REALLY feels like. Or everyone could just read this. Thanks!

Anonymous said...

Your thoughtful posts on depression have helped countless people understand what they're (not) feeling, and helped others understand what depressed people are going through. Not only are your descriptions accurate, but the element of levity does make all of it easier to take to heart.

From me, and many others, thank you.

Amber said...

I missed you.

Thank you.

I love you.

Amy said...

Allie! Thank you for posting this. It must have taken a lot of guts to do that. I'm so happy that you're feeling a bit better. Hopefully things are on track to slightly-less-shitty-land.
Thank you again for posting. It's wonderful to know that there are people as brave as you who are willing to share their stories.
Hang in there, lady. We're all here for you. :)

Winnie said...

This made me sad and it made me laugh. I'm so glad you're on your way to recovery and I can't wait for your next post! So glad to have you back Allie!

Anonymous said...

Thank you for this.

I (not so randomly after a bit of thought) woke up to a terrible bout of crushing loneliness this morning.

Been trying to distract myself from it all morning. This brought up some old bad memories from about 10 years ago when I felt something sort of similar to what you described. I won't say the same since I'm sure things like this are different for everyone.

It's actually made me feel better. Looking back at what I was like then (it lasted for a spring and a summer for me) and how far I've come was the boost I needed today it seems.

Since the count is sitting at almost 3000 comments already, i figure the odds of you reading this are slim to none but I wanted to take the time to thank you all the same.

Anonymous said...

Just as a tree leaves, the universe peoples. You are the universe temporarily experiencing itself as a human for a while. Everything (from the sun shinging to a bird chirping to a fart making its way into your nose from the lady at the cash register) is just happening. Everything is just happening. Your heart beating, your food digesting...it's all just happening. And we're experiencing it all from our very own unique point of view, watching and listening and...whenever possible squeezing a shit-ton of joy out of all the happenings. Next life: You might be a turtle and long for a boring ol' day as a human.

ambrosia said...

That reminds me to check my poop for corn, and to realise that Im not taking a dirt nap, welcome back motherfucker *thumb up*

Katharine Eliska Kimbriel said...

Thank you.

Keep fighting back to the light.

You are so talented. I hope the day comes soon that you can enjoy telling great stories once again...or whatever else you want to do with your life.

MV said...

That last drawing is maybe my favorite thing you've ever drawn -- definitely top five. I've been where you are now, and I'm so glad you're starting to feel things again, and super excited you're writing/drawing again.

Anonymous said...

amazing. You are amazing. Best description I've ever seen. Thank you.

Anonymous said...

My bf has depression, and I'm one of those people that gets frustrated. I get frustrated because it feels like he doesn't want to be helped, or that he just wants to be sad. It feels hopeless and it brings my mood down, and usually an argument ends up happening... I know I'm wrong for that. I just want him to be happy, there is so much good in him and in his life and I know I will never fully understand why he can't see it, but I'm trying. The way you describe your depression, I've heard almost identical descriptions from him many times, and I guess I was just pretending to understand, before... Thank you so much for posting this, it has helped me a lot, and it will help me in the future.

Anonymous said...

What helped me, after a few months of medication, was going home (my mom helped me out for a couple months), getting rid of a bunch of my stuff, road tripping a lot to see people and places, and then pouring myself into a bunch of creative stuff once I was able to actually feel something. Now instead of working a grind and having 'stuff' I don't care about, I only have what I need and I go where I want. Personal freedom is a major key to curing depression, and I find that when I have a stable environment where I can veg out and do nothing, I get depressed again. Now I play life by ear and don't worry about what's over the next hill. When I do, everything sucks, even if it doesn't.

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