I didn't understand why it was fun for me, it just was.
But as I grew older, it became harder and harder to access that expansive imaginary space that made my toys fun. I remember looking at them and feeling sort of frustrated and confused that things weren't the same.
I played out all the same story lines that had been fun before, but the meaning had disappeared. Horse's Big Space Adventure transformed into holding a plastic horse in the air, hoping it would somehow be enjoyable for me. Prehistoric Crazy-Bus Death Ride was just smashing a toy bus full of dinosaurs into the wall while feeling sort of bored and unfulfilled. I could no longer connect to my toys in a way that allowed me to participate in the experience.
Depression feels almost exactly like that, except about everything.
At first, though, the invulnerability that accompanied the detachment was exhilarating. At least as exhilarating as something can be without involving real emotions.
The beginning of my depression had been nothing but feelings, so the emotional deadening that followed was a welcome relief. I had always wanted to not give a fuck about anything. I viewed feelings as a weakness — annoying obstacles on my quest for total power over myself. And I finally didn't have to feel them anymore.
But my experiences slowly flattened and blended together until it became obvious that there's a huge difference between not giving a fuck and not being able to give a fuck. Cognitively, you might know that different things are happening to you, but they don't feel very different.
Which leads to horrible, soul-decaying boredom.
I tried to get out more, but most fun activities just left me existentially confused or frustrated with my inability to enjoy them.
Months oozed by, and I gradually came to accept that maybe enjoyment was not a thing I got to feel anymore. I didn't want anyone to know, though. I was still sort of uncomfortable about how bored and detached I felt around other people, and I was still holding out hope that the whole thing would spontaneously work itself out. As long as I could manage to not alienate anyone, everything might be okay!
However, I could no longer rely on genuine emotion to generate facial expressions, and when you have to spend every social interaction consciously manipulating your face into shapes that are only approximately the right ones, alienating people is inevitable.
Everyone noticed.
It's weird for people who still have feelings to be around depressed people. They try to help you have feelings again so things can go back to normal, and it's frustrating for them when that doesn't happen. From their perspective, it seems like there has got to be some untapped source of happiness within you that you've simply lost track of, and if you could just see how beautiful things are...
At first, I'd try to explain that it's not really negativity or sadness anymore, it's more just this detached, meaningless fog where you can't feel anything about anything — even the things you love, even fun things — and you're horribly bored and lonely, but since you've lost your ability to connect with any of the things that would normally make you feel less bored and lonely, you're stuck in the boring, lonely, meaningless void without anything to distract you from how boring, lonely, and meaningless it is.
But people want to help. So they try harder to make you feel hopeful and positive about the situation. You explain it again, hoping they'll try a less hope-centric approach, but re-explaining your total inability to experience joy inevitably sounds kind of negative; like maybe you WANT to be depressed. The positivity starts coming out in a spray — a giant, desperate happiness sprinkler pointed directly at your face. And it keeps going like that until you're having this weird argument where you're trying to convince the person that you are far too hopeless for hope just so they'll give up on their optimism crusade and let you go back to feeling bored and lonely by yourself.
And that's the most frustrating thing about depression. It isn't always something you can fight back against with hope. It isn't even something — it's nothing. And you can't combat nothing. You can't fill it up. You can't cover it. It's just there, pulling the meaning out of everything. That being the case, all the hopeful, proactive solutions start to sound completely insane in contrast to the scope of the problem.
It would be like having a bunch of dead fish, but no one around you will acknowledge that the fish are dead. Instead, they offer to help you look for the fish or try to help you figure out why they disappeared.
The problem might not even have a solution. But you aren't necessarily looking for solutions. You're maybe just looking for someone to say "sorry about how dead your fish are" or "wow, those are super dead. I still like you, though."
I started spending more time alone.
Perhaps it was because I lacked the emotional depth necessary to panic, or maybe my predicament didn't feel dramatic enough to make me suspicious, but I somehow managed to convince myself that everything was still under my control right up until I noticed myself wishing that nothing loved me so I wouldn't feel obligated to keep existing.
It's a strange moment when you realize that you don't want to be alive anymore. If I had feelings, I'm sure I would have felt surprised. I have spent the vast majority of my life actively attempting to survive. Ever since my most distant single-celled ancestor squiggled into existence, there has been an unbroken chain of things that wanted to stick around.
Yet there I was, casually wishing that I could stop existing in the same way you'd want to leave an empty room or mute an unbearably repetitive noise.
That wasn't the worst part, though. The worst part was deciding to keep going.
When I say that deciding to not kill myself was the worst part, I should clarify that I don't mean it in a retrospective sense. From where I am now, it seems like a solid enough decision. But at the time, it felt like I had been dragging myself through the most miserable, endless wasteland, and — far in the distance — I had seen the promising glimmer of a slightly less miserable wasteland. And for just a moment, I thought maybe I'd be able to stop and rest. But as soon as I arrived at the border of the less miserable wasteland, I found out that I'd have to turn around and walk back the other way.
Soon afterward, I discovered that there's no tactful or comfortable way to inform other people that you might be suicidal. And there's definitely no way to ask for help casually.
I didn't want it to be a big deal. However, it's an alarming subject. Trying to be nonchalant about it just makes it weird for everyone.
I was also extremely ill-prepared for the position of comforting people. The things that seemed reassuring at the time weren't necessarily comforting for others.
The next few weeks were a haze of talking to relentlessly hopeful people about my feelings that didn't exist so I could be prescribed medication that might help me have them again.
And every direction was bullshit for a really long time, especially up. The absurdity of working so hard to continue doing something you don't like can be overwhelming. And the longer it takes to feel different, the more it starts to seem like everything might actually be hopeless bullshit.
My feelings did start to return eventually. But not all of them came back, and they didn't arrive symmetrically.
I had not been able to care for a very long time, and when I finally started being able to care about things again, I HATED them. But hatred is technically a feeling, and my brain latched onto it like a child learning a new word.
Hating everything made all the positivity and hope feel even more unpalatable. The syrupy, over-simplified optimism started to feel almost offensive.
Thankfully, I rediscovered crying just before I got sick of hating things. I call this emotion "crying" and not "sadness" because that's all it really was. Just crying for the sake of crying. My brain had partially learned how to be sad again, but it took the feeling out for a joy ride before it had learned how to use the brakes or steer.
At some point during this phase, I was crying on the kitchen floor for no reason. As was common practice during bouts of floor-crying, I was staring straight ahead at nothing in particular and feeling sort of weird about myself. Then, through the film of tears and nothingness, I spotted a tiny, shriveled piece of corn under the refrigerator.
I don't claim to know why this happened, but when I saw the piece of corn, something snapped. And then that thing twisted through a few permutations of logic that I don't understand, and produced the most confusing bout of uncontrollable, debilitating laughter that I have ever experienced.
I had absolutely no idea what was going on.
My brain had apparently been storing every unfelt scrap of happiness from the last nineteen months, and it had impulsively decided to unleash all of it at once in what would appear to be an act of vengeance.
That piece of corn is the funniest thing I have ever seen, and I cannot explain to anyone why it's funny. I don't even know why. If someone ever asks me "what was the exact moment where things started to feel slightly less shitty?" instead of telling a nice, heartwarming story about the support of the people who loved and believed in me, I'm going to have to tell them about the piece of corn. And then I'm going to have to try to explain that no, really, it was funny. Because, see, the way the corn was sitting on the floor... it was so alone... and it was just sitting there! And no matter how I explain it, I'll get the same, confused look. So maybe I'll try to show them the piece of corn - to see if they get it. They won't. Things will get even weirder.
Anyway, I wanted to end this on a hopeful, positive note, but, seeing as how my sense of hope and positivity is still shrouded in a thick layer of feeling like hope and positivity are bullshit, I'll just say this: Nobody can guarantee that it's going to be okay, but — and I don't know if this will be comforting to anyone else — the possibility exists that there's a piece of corn on a floor somewhere that will make you just as confused about why you are laughing as you have ever been about why you are depressed. And even if everything still seems like hopeless bullshit, maybe it's just pointless bullshit or weird bullshit or possibly not even bullshit.
I don't know.
But when you're concerned that the miserable, boring wasteland in front of you might stretch all the way into forever, not knowing feels strangely hope-like.
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«Oldest ‹Older 2401 – 2600 of 4970 Newer› Newest»I'm so sorry you've been going through this. While I've never been clinically depressed, I could relate to your experiences with Positivity Yoga Sunshine Friends who tried to talk you out of what you were feeling/not feeling. That's annoying even when you're only dealing with garden-variety sadness.
Anyway. I wanted to let you know that when I saw there was a new Hyperbole and a Half, I posted the link on Facebook with the commentary "SHE'S BACK SHE'S BACK SHE'S BACK!!!" If you're still not deriving pleasure from feedback like that, no worries -- this isn't an attempt to cheer you up. Just wanted to express my appreciation. The world is better with you in it.
Oh, Allie. I'm so glad you found your corn and that things are getting better for you. I know what it's like... my "corn" was knocking over a box of colored pencils one day. It might still take awhile longer, but you'll get there.
Welcome back. :)
Sometimes for me the crying is the corn. Then I'm laughing and crying and I don't know why. Which is also what happened when I read this. Thanks :)
I'm going to see someone about my crippling anxiety and panic attacks today. Thank you for this post. I've been in the throws of "I'll just sit in bed all day because what else is there to do or feel or see or be?" and it's a hard road. Thank you for explaining it in a way other people can understand.
I've never posted a comment on something like this in the 20 whatever years I've been on the internet. There's no way you could read all of the comments that are here. But I have to put it here anyways.
It was a bit almost physically painful to be laughing and crying like hell at the same time. This describes my childhood perfectly, but that's not it. I thought I was nearly immune to depression because I could recognize it and deal with it and I got over it after childhood. I was wrong.
Just like a lobster that goes in a pot cold and thinks everything is awesome and the warming of the water is not a big deal, depression crept up on me. I thought I was bored because I was sick all the time. Or because I had a husband that was far more fascinated by working 40 hours more than he was required to than being with me. I also thought now that I've been separated for a year and the divorce is nearly final that I was over it. I do laugh sometimes. So I'm all better?
This is the paragraph where I tie it up in a neat bow and say something insightful. But the box is open now and it's messy.
I very much enjoyed your.... thing. What you do is very awesome and most people have lost (or never had) the ability to write the way you do. Please keep it up for as long as it does something for you.
Thank you.
I went throug this entire experience about four years ago. I'm so glad you made it to the other side. I can't tell you how much I would have liked to have had this comic to pull out and show to all of those people who didn't understand the fish situation. I think it's really important to be honest that this kind of depression exists, that it is relatively common, that it isn't something to be ashamed of, and that it can be fixed, even if fixing it takes a long time and sucks like crazy. I'm so glad to see that you're okay.
I'm so glad you're back! Your last post about depression helped me out during some bad weeks, and this one is equally good. My fish might just be dying, but maybe I can explain it now with fish and corn.
Violence.
Brilliant way of describing depression! I absolutely believe that unless you've experienced it you can't understand and that goes for trained professionals like psychiatrists too. I hate the advice "get out and do something you really enjoy". Anyone who says that does not really understand depression.
I'm so, so sorry your fish are really, really dead. I see that too.
But I am appreciative for your honesty and your existence because it makes mine a little easier. Thank you for making a difference, even if you can't see it all the time. You do, you make a difference. It's not invisible to us. You are important to me.
I'm so glad to hear that you're doing better! If I knew your address, I would totally send you a fruit basket and sneak in some corn. But if I knew your address that would be super creepy since you have no idea who I am.
I'm glad to see you taking steps again. I've been through this exact cycle many times and you've captured it in all its heartbreak. I hope you find lots of corn on your path to keep you going.
So happy to have you back! This is a hard thing to go through (I have the t-shirt) but each day gets just a bit easier.
I am crying now, I went into a depression a while back fortunately mine was caused by a medical condition. Now that I am on the right meds and diet, I am so relieved to have my happy back. I wish it could be as easy for you.
Thank you so much for this! I spent six months trying to explain to my husband what you just summed up in the most eloquent manner. Definitely going to share this post with him tonight.
This the most accurate thing I have ever read concerning depression. "You can't fight nothing." So true..
Thank you for such an honest post. I bet you will find a lot of people here who understand the corn. And the cyclical crazy laughter and its magical unicorn (partial) healing powers.
Thank you thank you for your awesome writing!
My best friend took off forever. You explained why. Thank you for helping me.
God, this is sickeningly familiar. I'm going to send this to everyone I know when they can't figure out why, "Why don't you just be happy again?" doesn't all of a sudden work.
You and the corn were soulmates.
You were lonely, on the floor. Shriveled, in a sense. And so was the corn.
the corn was a reflection of yourself.
Maybe? I dunno. Something similar happened to me when I was dealing with hardcore depression episodes when I was a kid. Except it was frozen peas.
I'm so sorry you were in the pit. Being in the pit sucks. Being disconnected from people and life sucks. Hopelessness and despair suck too. Allie, I'm 54 now and I made it through my young adulthood. It was no picnic but I managed to not die. I still have the occasional non-functional day with all crying all the time but I have not fallen back into the pit. I can enjoy a sunny day, a cute puppy or a random act of kindness. I'm glad I'm still here and you will be glad too. It takes an incredible amount of bravery to stay alive when one's mind and soul are begging for death. You are a brave and funny girl and I hope you see how much you are loved. There are so many of us rooting for you.
Allie -
I have so much to share with you and I want to help. We have a bit in common in terms of medical history and psychological day to day symptoms --and in family history! I really want to share with you what has made small differences (after all, it's usually just small steps that you CAN fix) So I will be in contact soon. Please look for my name :-)
But if you never get a chance to talk later, just let me say I hope you can get some time to get back to what you (at least, I think you did from the 2009 posts) really loved about blogging -- discourse on the forums. From what I gathered you seemed to enjoy talking back and forth to people and often it inspired you to write more. It's probably a little weird to get back into now that were all up here kissing your ass these days. I mean, praising your hilarious work, rather... But once you/others get over the initial novelty of the first group of comment maybe we can all get back to having good conversations on here? Back then when (I was lurking) I use to laugh my balls off with you guys (*I don't actually have balls). Maybe it will inspire you to write new genres or mediums? Who knows. Just be yourself. If you're paranoid by people treating you with too much respect, get your voice out here on the forums and become one of our peers again. We promise not to be as obnoxious as those on the reddit AMA! Missed you, dude! You're an inspiration to overwhelmed ADHD writers everywhere. Hope to talk once I have a computer in front of me instead of a phone!
- Kate from New Jersey
Brava! This should be published and available in hospitals, doctor's offices, and BOOKSTORES.
Thank you for sharing so authentically,
Barrett
So glad to see you back! Been there...done that...and now I can laugh again!
Keep your chin up!
I completely have been there, and was stuck in that numb void for almost 2 yrs. I;m glad I found help. I'm still working on it, but I found my corn under the fridge and things are hopeful again. <3
Hm, so your disappearance and inability to access the internet for almost two years didn't have anything to do with your new book coming out? And your reappearance months before has nothing to do with promoting it...got it.
http://www.amazon.com/Hyperbole-Half-Unfortunate-Situations-Mechanisms/dp/1451666179
This is the very best description of depression I have ever read. Yes. Exactly.
And I am so glad you found that piece of corn! Welcome back. Truly. From the bottom of the Intarnetz' collective heart.
I've never commented before, but I thought you should know that your posts make me feel more like I might be a real human because there's at least one other person out there who experiences life like I do. Your honesty and humor has really touched me. I think of you every time I am too scared or depressed to go to the bank (like an ADULT) and I really hope we both figure this whole living life thing out. I'm glad you're back. I'm glad you're you. Thank you.
Thank you for coming back and also for not figuring out how to shuffle off this mortal coil. I sure as hell don't missed being depressed, and I mostly manage to see the bullshit as amusing bullshit now.
Let me know when you can feel happiness again and I'll send you a picture of a puppy or whatever.
Thanks again for posting this in the most honest way possible. I have these feelings a lot, and never know how to put them in words. Thanks again for making me not feel alone!
"wishing that nothing loved me so I wouldn't feel obligated to keep existing"
I feel this pretty often. It comes and goes. I feel pretty good right now, and I every time I feel good I tell myself I'm better now and I won't ever feel that way again. But it's never true. I should probably do something about that.
I just wanted to say, the corn under the fridge... that made me laugh. Aloud. At work. Don't worry that you can't make the people around you realize how funny it is. It's a specific kind of humor, and not everyone needs to get it. Just know that some do! Also, even though lots of people have suggested it, you don't have to turn an old shriveled kernel of corn into a necklace and wear it. Think about it this way. That single kernel of corn is magical to you. It was your unicorn. Now every time you see a unicorn, you can think of the unicorn that broke through to you. I don't know about you, but I would feel awesome knowing that a magical unicorn saved me.
Seeing your new posts in my feed reader made me happy. I'm glad you're back.
I've been on a similar path, thanks for giving me some hope. :)
It's great to have you back. That was beautifully said, and pretty funny, too. Somehow.
I think it will help people to hear it.
Good luck.
Thank you for sharing this. I still struggle with moments of numbness.
The other shitty thing that no one warns you about is how exhausting feeling is after that. Anything above mildly amused or below a little upset makes you want to go to bed a hour after feeling it.
Allie, I'm super sorry your fish were so dead. I'm super glad to see some corn in your life. You must stick around, the corn is counting on you.
I hope you have someone who sits with you and doesn't expect anything from you.
I'm so sorry that you've endured this. It sucks.
I love the corn. The moment came for me in the shower, when I suddenly felt the sensation that one of my butt cheeks was tucked inside the other. I started laughing and laughing, and, of course, couldn't explain to my housemates why I was laughing until I cried in the shower that morning. In fact, I have never told anyone this before. So, yes, the moment when it starts to come out is entirely unpredictable, and often entirely undignified, like your piece of corn and my butt cheeks. I have been managing my depression for about 18 years now. I have had to adjust my medication sometimes, and have had highs and lows, but never found myself in that horrible state of meaninglessness, inaction, and general mental inertia. My life is not too bad. Of course, having a daughter and 4 cats depending on me now helps.
Thanks for letting me tell you this.
I'm so happy to see your post, and look forward to seeing many more. Having never suffered from depression, I had no idea what it was like. I'm sure my impressions of what it is like are merely shadows of its reality, but I feel like I understand it a little better. Thank you for sharing this and for hanging in there through those hopeless times.
Take care,
-aj
Brilliant. As someone who is just beginning to emerge from the fog of a super extended depression and finding that it's not a bunch of hopeless bullshit, I appreciated this so much.
Thank you.
I can relate to so much of this. Don't even get me started on "hope." Hope usually wound up hurting me more, because it never panned out.
I managed not to weep openly reading this until the part with your dog ... so many times my clingy little dog was the only reason I didn't continue riding those "what's the least messy and painful way I can end myself" trains of thought. Because what would happen to poor Toby? He had terrible separation anxiety. I couldn't leave him for more than a couple days because he wouldn't eat. So he was the reason I kept going.
And then he got oral cancer and became so sick we had to let him go ... I cried hysterically for days, and if people thought it was because it broke me to lose the one constant thing I had in the past 11 years of my life, that was true -- but they didn't know that I was also crying because I now had to decide whether I was going to follow through with that "if it weren't for the fact Toby needs me so much ..." thought.
Things have happened. I'm better off now than I was. But I still panic whenever a family member tells me they love me -- I mean, you kind of have to say it back, right? But I feel like I'm lying because I can't feel it.
Sorry to make this The Me Show. I started off just trying to say I relate and sort of tumbled away there.
OMG, this is perfect. i have never been able to say to family or "friends" how i felt until i read this. not so much dead, as much as "rather not exist at all" but otherwise, SPOT ON. and
for me, it was a feather with skin still attached to it, out on the sidewalk. i laughed for days, my sides hurt so bad i had to lay down.
thankyou
Thank you for sharing this. It put into words/pictures exactly how I have felt. Wow is all I can say.
"The next few weeks were a haze of talking to relentlessly hopeful people about my feelings that didn't exist so I could be prescribed medication that might help me have them again. "
I always feel I talk about things that don't exist when I'm talking to a therapist. Which is mainly the reason why I don't always seek help from one, because I'm like '.........meh...........why? What should I talk about?' Thanks for this post. You made me cry a bit out of hopelesness as well as hopefulness.
Which is a good thing I suppose. Bitter is good as long as it's also a bit sweet.. I guess
XOXO Thanks Allie,
Iris
The world would have sucked quite a bit more without you.
"right up until I noticed myself wishing that nothing loved me so I wouldn't feel obligated to keep existing."
Yeah. I know this. Not now, but before. You do a profound job of explaining the "no-feeling" and the responses of those that _do_ care about you, and the inability to explain what, exactly, is going on.
At any rate, I enjoy your art, and I certainly hope to see more of it. You certainly bring a great deal of joy to a LOT of people.
This stopped me dead in my tracks by how much I relate to it. Thank you for being you, and, well, it's just damned good to know there are other people out there with similar struggles.
"The next few weeks were a haze of talking to relentlessly hopeful people about my feelings that didn't exist so I could be prescribed medication that might help me have them again. "
I always feel I talk about things that don't exist when I'm talking to a therapist. Which is mainly the reason why I don't always seek help from one, because I'm like '.........meh...........why? What should I talk about?' Thanks for this post. You made me cry a bit out of hopelesness as well as hopefulness.
Which is a good thing I suppose. Bitter is good as long as it's also a bit sweet.. I guess
XOXO Thanks Allie,
Iris
Thank you for sharing this. You have been able to explain depression in a way that I never could. The next time someone questions my depression or doesn't understand I will send them here because THIS is exactly it.
I hope you continue on your healing journey.
I'm glad things aren't utterly hopeless for you anymore. As many have said before me, this entire post was very familiar (even the corn moment). I won't tell you it will get better, but it certainly can.
We missed you. Welcome back.
Thank you for posting this. This is almost identical to what I went through with depression. Thank the stars for medication!
You're hilarious! I hope you continue to feel better.
This is brilliant, Allie. Reading it, I was like, oh my god someone else actually gets it! Thank you, thank you for posting it. So glad to see you back!
Thank you so much for being back and writing and most of all for getting the help you needed - the world is so much better with feelings, and with you writing about it :)
I laughed so hard. I felt really bad about it too, because depression is horrible and this is exactly how it feels. But seeing it laid out in such an adorable fashion made it all the funnier. I'm glad you're back!
I'm sorry that your feelings are all messed up. I still like you.
I missed you and never gave up hope you'd be back. Welcome back!
Great post. I understand. Sending you lots of good wishes that the corn nuggets keep coming.
yeah- it is the explanation that suidcide isn't about being dead, it is about making everything else just stop, that is hardest to convey...
"The next few weeks were a haze of talking to relentlessly hopeful people about my feelings that didn't exist so I could be prescribed medication that might help me have them again. "
I always feel I talk about things that don't exist when I'm talking to a therapist. Which is mainly the reason why I don't always seek help from one, because I'm like '.........meh...........why? What should I talk about?' Thanks for this post. You made me cry a bit out of hopelesness as well as hopefulness.
Which is a good thing I suppose. Bitter is good as long as it's also a bit sweet.. I guess
XOXO Thanks Allie,
Iris
this is such a good explanation of what depression is like and how it manifests. on and off throughout life i have became severely depressed at times, and i always get through it ok but it's incredibly exhausting and both over- and underwhelming sometimes, and a very difficult predicament to explain. people always want you to tell them "what is wrong" and "talk about it." their intentions are good, but how do you explain not feeling normal to people who are functioning normally and have never felt differently? thanks for giving voice to this experience. you may be far from wanting to hear that this humorous and yet serious story will help other people, but i think it will. this doesn't mean you have to feel pressured to do more of the same, or follow it with a "happy, hopeful" blog, but just having externalized your experience in this way so others can read it, is a lot. Thanks.
My piece of corn has been anyone looking at me, a staple that fell into my own food, a joke that I told. It just gets weirder. And thank you for the conclusion to this, I've been trying really hard lately to make the people around me understand that "less awful" is a great thing for me!
Oh my God. I was in this place on my birthday a couple of weeks ago - the nothingland - and am climbing out but this is beautiful and so Goddamned true. Thank you.
I spent the past 3.5 years in the same state that you describe above and even moreso in your previous posting before you went dark.
I started coming out of it earlier this year, and it really lifted when I quit drinking a few months ago--the paxil can finally work.
But there is a very bizarre side-effect that you alude to here. I have always wanted to not care, or to be more self-reliant emotionally. Not only has that happened, but I now prefer my own company 10 times over most of my longest and most treasured friends. I can't be bothered with the phone, never visit with people, don't go to social functions, and can't wait to get home to my dogs, my jewelry and my hobbies. I'm contented now, and have many points of joy. Isn't that totally weird?
Your blogging has been an enormous comfort to me. I do not feel alone or weird(er) cause I now get that you and others (jeez--look at all the comments) get it. You have earned a longstanding place in the universe for being able to say things most of cannot (cause you are also so funny and expressive about it.) I do not feel alone on my journey.
big hugs. Stay in touch with us.
w/ great affection, tina
Allie, you are simply amazing. I wish I could hug you.
You are incredibly brave. I have experienced this same thing (or what feels like the same thing) many, many times, and I could never write about it in such a frank, articulate way. Thank you.
I still keep hoping I'll get cancer so I can have permission to go and not overly traumatize people or have them angry at me.
Thank you so much for posting this. Several of my friends from all walks of life have shared your post. It seems many many people are here to "still like you." This is all over Reddit, in fact – you're connecting and helping a lot of people today. Thanks again.
I wanted to not exist, too.
The insurmountable mountain of problems I inherited (literally) were not in my skill set to solve, so I hid from them, and the mountain got bigger and then the mountain found me and fell over on me.
I didn't want anyone else to take my place under the mountain that I was pretending like wasn't even there, so I had to figure out how to continue to exist so I could deal with the mountain and with the pit that was opening up underneath it.
I spent days and weeks trying to get someone to help me. I have insurance. I have established medical relationships. I have supportive friends. I have compassionate co-workers. I have cash. But I did not have the ability to make anything happen.
I told a social worker that I was thinking of going to the ER with a razor to pretend that I was suicidal so that I could see a shrink. She said that was a better option than an over-dose, and I was astonished to hear that people routinely fake suicide because they can't get access to a psychiatrist, not because they want to die.
She gave me a referral to a psychiatric nurse practitioner who could see me in a week and a half, so I clung to the edge of the pit of despair under the mountain.
Then I started meds, and my brain switched back on.
I found my way out from under the mountain. I told people about the mountain. Some people knew about how to chip away at it. The mountain is getting smaller now. I can even climb parts of the mountain.
So very, very glad that you're with us. Welcome back, and welcome home!
I actually know exactly what you mean about the corn. I haven't had that experience with corn (because that would be super strange, like there was something mystical about corn) but that moment when something random somehow makes everything seem entirely different, definitely.
I'm so glad you reappeared, I was starting to worry that you got hit by a large truck or something.
It's also creepy the degree to which this is accurate. I'm slogging through this right now, everybody tells me I just have to "want" to do things and get better when that's the fucking problem. I am going to link them to this post for all further inquiries.
I have felt something similar very recently. Thanks for explaining it out for me.
Welcome back! Thank you for posting this. I can't say I have ever suffered as you have suffered (I've been depressed due to external causes, but never organically), but I can understand how poignant and accurate this entire post is, and that it required a lot of inner strength to be able to share this portion of your life not only with those closest to you, but the entire world. I hope that this has helped you to sort through and process some of that wasteland, and I hope that you continue to sort through it to where you can feel feelings again. I wish you well.
Allie, we have all missed you so much. Depression SUCKS - so glad you're getting help. You are a strong, wonderful person and we're so glad things are better. We would even be glad if that meant you didn't come back to posting. But we're super glad it did ;) - Melissa
Reading this made me laugh and cry simultaneously. You describe things that I have never been able to put in to words and you do it so accurately and perfectly. Thank you
I laughed really hard about the corn. I've had depression for almost 10 years and I like you even if you have no feelings and your fish are dead.
Wow. I lived exactly this. Only after totally making some therapists cry and stuff did I end up working out I was gluten intolerant and it was shutting off my B6 or B12 or B something, and so I was going through all of life poisoned. There was a reason logic didn't help.
I do a lot better, being strict about that dietary stuff. Never did go the psych med route because I was real stubborn about it. As I get older I seem like I'm more fragile to such things. It's weird when your world is shaped and defined by what (and whether) you eat… it sure seems able to override everything else.
Totally glad you didn't die yet,
Chris
Thank you so much for this--simply brilliant. Made me laugh and cry. I'm so glad you're back--the world needs you!
Your corn-based infinite laughter loop of confusion was my cat food advert hysteria marathon. Also occurring on the floor. With love x
this is incredible and the corn this is just creepily realistic - I had a similar epiphany imagining why a dog looked so sad in the street one time. Just on my way from the doctors, I saw a dog. Aren't dogs funny? Well, no, not really, not when they are just out for a walk minding their own business. Anyways, this was a joy to read and I'm glad you started to feel ways about stuff again.
Just wanted to add my thanks for this post. You are awesome and have been truly missed. My day is much brighter because of this post! Take care and all the best to you, and everyone else reading and touched by this post!
This entry feels so close to home. I'm hoping for the best for you, Allie! Thank you for such a wonderful, emotional, and at times extremely humorous post <3 It's nice to see from you again. :)
Thank you for posting. I share your struggle, and it helps to know others are functioning again after experiencing the darkness of depression. Wishing you plenty of cloorn in the months ahead.
Thank you for describing perfectly what's like to have depression. Hoping yours lifts soon.
I wanna be super cheesey and make a comment about how I totally understand blah blah blah
But instead, have an internet hug.
My shriveled corn was a fork. I still have no way of explaining why it is hilarious, but it is.
Carry on!
Thank you for writing this.
Yes, this is perfect. PERFECT.
I'm in the crying part and looking for the corn. Haven't found it yet but it's there somewhere. Perhaps I should look under the refrigerator?
*HUGS* I'm very glad you are back, Allie. Keep laughing at the corn. I've been through this before and there IS an other side.
Man, if every mental health care professional was required to read your posts on depression over and over for a couple of years, instead of doing whatever it is they do in school, I think we'd see a huge improvement in their profession. Thanks so much for sharing.
this is the best explanation for this ever thank
So glad you're back, Allie! Also, you and the Bloggess should probably be best friends. Or you should at least read her book.
You know Allie, I went through some depression before becoming diagnosed with ADHD (at 35!) Part of the relief of finally realizing that there *was* something different about the way my brain works was a huge relief to me; and once I started taking something to deal with that, my underlying depression started to become clearer. Only my doctor used a word for it that I wish everybody could learn: JOYLESSNESS. I think that's exactly what you were experiencing. It has to do with slight imbalances in your serotonin/dopamine levels. And it doesn't take much out-of-whackness of either of those things to really mess you up.
I'm not saying that 'popping pills is the answer to everything, for everyone'...but all I know is that proper medication *really* helped me out. My doctor's specialty is Behavoral Medicine, and he works exclusively with children and adults with ADD/ADHD. Just a thought--if you can find a Behavoral Therapist near you, they might be able to help.
Anyway, I am SO glad you're back. Thank you for your brutal honesty and willingness to share both your joys and your pain with us. We support you 100%
I would like to share my corn story:
During step I Hate Everyone And Everything, I was attempting to go into society. Attempting being the key word. One evening, it was gloomy, and rainy, and lightningy and very reflectively of my soul. ( Thank you, Academy.) It was so bad, a single engine airplane crashed into a home and killed a family and the pilot. I, being in severe I Don't Give A Fuck About Two Shits, watched on the news and wished I was the pilot.
I headed outside to smoke, and a friend followed behind. Possibly to make sure I didn't jump. We stood there with no words until he could bear it no longer and said, "Wow. Looks like plane crashing weather."
I laughed for an hour, and still find myself chuckling at it to this day.
You and I - I think we understand each other. And so do so many more.
-hug-
Allie,
Thank you for being so open and honest about your depression! I have had issues with depression for years, and understood all too well so much of what you described. It's hard and scary to be this forward about depression, and to share you experiences with the world, and I just want you to know how much it, and you, mean to people. When I'm having a rough go, I like to think less of 'it will get better', and more of 'this, too, shall pass'. So keep your chin up, this, too, shall pass.
If your depression works like mine, you will possebly think that all these comments and best wishes, are nothing more than bullshit and stupidheads.
And you're right!
(But I would refrain from deleting them within the next couple of years -They might make more sense then).
All of this. The empty. The not wanting to exist. So much. I'm only one of thousands who has said all of this, but I'm glad you're back, and I identify with your story. It DOES suck.
Wow, you nailed it!
SO happy to have your blog back, and SO happy that you were able to ask for help, and get your life back!
Been there, done that. It's still a fight some days, but there is lots of not bullshit out there to make it worth it :)
Thank you so much for this. Thank God somebody can explain what it's really like--and somehow make it funny, too.
I'm going to show this to everyone who doesn't understand depression. This was the best description ever. Anyway, I'm so happier you're back! Please don't leave for a year again.
I want to give you a hug
As so many others have said: this post is brilliant. Thanks so much for persevering and writing it. I hope things get better for you and I'm excited for the book release.
.... is it weird that I had 1/100 of your reaction to the corn? I saw the corn, you called it corn, and I just couldn't stop laughing. tears of laughter. and then I read that you had the same reaction. the corn is fucking hilarious, and I don't care what other people think.
I get this. My problem was that my fish were dead and sticking to me and starting to decompose and I was like "Please just rip them off, I don't mind if it hurts" and my environment was all "Do you know that your stench actually harms our reputation because we are connected to you? You should be ashamed!"
And nobody would take the stinky fishy cadavers off of me and I couldn't reach them myself.
To leave the metaphore behind, I was a highly functioning alcoholic and had a major depression at the same time. Actually, the depression came first. Because when you drink enough you don't care that people don't care that you don't care.
Eventually there was one person who reacted by "ewwww, gross - why do you wear dead decomposing fish all over you?" And he was the first one after 8 years of constant wishing for the end of my existence and so he shocked me pretty bad.
Now it's nearly 10 years since the "ewww, gross!" moment, I quit drinking several years ago and the life is worth living again. Only pretty much recently though.
So yeah, your fish were dead. But now the corn seed finally washed them down the toilet. And one fine day you'll put the aquarium away and maybe buy a hamster. No rush. There's no time limit on this.
I love this post, Allie. Thank you. How can you see this so clearly? I totally get everything you've said here, but I don't think I could have ever verbalized it when it was happening to me. Thank you, again.
I have lived this exact post, except for the corn part. It took me almost a year to go to the doctor and ask for help because I just didn't care from one day to the next if I did it or not. I am so glad you are climbing out of the pit, Allie.
omg, once all my fish died, just like that. And I couldn't understand why no one else could acknowledge and help me through the death of my fish. Everyone had a story to tell about how they thought their fish had died in a similar manner once, and then when they ate ice cream (insert other useless advice) , the fish magically came back to life. Thanks for this, because you are still awesome even when writing about the darkness of depression!
YOu just described me in a way I haven't been able to explain....yea!!!!i'm not the only one
I'm glad you're back alot
This is the best description of depression I have ever heard! You are the best Allie.
I missed you and your blog in my life! Thanks for this post.
This post taught me so much about depression. I'll try to be a better listener from now on.
I ended up crying over a sandwich at one point, so I get that.
Overly insistant hope-people are the worst... its a grand show of "i have all these things you dont have and i have them for you so it makes it better right?" Treat you like hope is some sort of gastank strapped to your back.. "fill'er up, she'll run, good as new"
And you, having at one time understood emotions, just feel bad at not being able to give the person gratification for their troubles.. empty gestures of thanks sink your attempts to glean anything from the conversations. How do you tell someone thats cares.. "No, I still feel empty. You can't help me." ... I lied to my doctor because she asked "what percentage do you feel better [after months of a certain drug]" ... i would have replied thirty... but its like she didnt even consider it as an option.. she prompted "60? 80? 100?" And my shame for not feeling good enough for her expectations and the childish notion that I would hurt her feelings because she tried.. she was capable of trying.. and I should help her be happy because I can't.
Humans are remarkable little weakness-hiders. It's a survival tactic, one that short curcuits our modern day living because we're only fooling people who could help us, not sabertooth death tigers.
Meds haven't helped me, I tried a few and I thought they'd help me cross this deserted wasteland... but I've had to turn around like you have... take a good hard look at the nothingness, and see what I can't make of it.
I'm working on being human again.. I was pretty sure I'd melt away regardless but then I found my boyfriend and I've been cursed to keep on existing. More than that, even, he forces me to function. I can't say I enjoy it yet when he sends me millions of cute pictures to bribe me to do things I should be doing anyway, but I think I'm finally tipping the scales from shame to gratefulness.
He may not be my piece of corn, he's too well adjusted for that. But he wont sugar coat things to make me feel better (guilty) and I have to learn how to function or bring him down with me. It's really really hard.
I just want to let you know that you make functioning a little bit easier. for a lot of people. Alot of people.
You might just be the dessicated bit of vegetable that gets us through our darkest days.
Alot of love. Really.
Meeeeeeeeeeeeeee
I think... I think we've all been a piece of cloorn, at some point or other.
Allie, I'm so glad to see you back. Hoping and praying that things just get better and better for you. You give so much joy to the world, I know you deserve to feel some joy of your own.
Wow! You are one incredibly talented, brilliant story-teller and artist. I don't know how you manage both to be funny and poignant--and you make it look so easy! I hope that when you're fully-feeling again, you re-read these comments and see how many people are touched by what you do.
Great to hear from you again. I hope soon you can feel all the things.
This is one of the most truthful and well written things about depression I read. I literally started shouting when I hit the fish part, because that is exactly how I feel somedays. My fish are dead and NO ONE seems to realize it or know how to deal with it. They just want to solve my problem, not sit and listen to me tell them that (1) my fish are dead and (2) they were awesome fish and (3) I'm really going to miss them. Thank you for breaking it down and explaining things, again.
And, I'm sorry your fish are dead, that sucks. But, I'm glad you're back.
This is one of the most truthful and well written things about depression I read. I literally started shouting when I hit the fish part, because that is exactly how I feel somedays. My fish are dead and NO ONE seems to realize it or know how to deal with it. They just want to solve my problem, not sit and listen to me tell them that (1) my fish are dead and (2) they were awesome fish and (3) I'm really going to miss them. Thank you for breaking it down and explaining things, again.
And, I'm sorry your fish are dead, that sucks. But, I'm glad you're back.
Thank you for writing and sharing this. "I don't want to kill myself, I just want to be dead somehow." I felt that, but thought I was the only one. Glad you have feelings back and I join you in the struggle. Thank you.
thank you
Yay. No exclamation point, but yay. Here i thought you were writing a book, but you were doing the same thing as me. Kinda. No corn here. But a girlfriend takes the edge off. Write more. It can't hurt. Or can it? Sorry about your dead fish. I still like you. And i don't even know you.
You are awesome and I've missed you. You describe depression perfectly and I'm happy that you've found your way back to a place where it doesn't seem like that horrible wasteland just goes on forever. I love the corn story! It doesn't matter what snaps us out of it, just so long as we break free. I'm still kind of in the hating and crying place but at least there's some laughing too, so I know it's getting better. I hope you keep making your awesome posts: they're part of what makes the world a cool place to be in!
Allie, I <3 you and am so glad you're back, darkness and depressions and feelings and things and all.
Feel all the things!
I am so happy to hear from you, I was scared of what might have happened. I was in the shower and my daughter ran in and said, "ALLI POSTED!" and I said, "YES!". I went through a terrible depression last year, I know exactly what you mean about just wishing I'd cease to exist. That totally pissed off my husband. Went to the gyno for my exam, told her what was up and she gave me wellbutrin. Chnaged my life. Thank God for that drug.
This is the best description of depression I've ever seen. I also get through things with the ironic power of humour (am I even using the term "irony" correctly there??). I hope you are feeling better. Please keep posting! I won't get gushy on you here. Instead I'll just tip my hat to you with a knowing wink. You go girl! :)
Waking up to find out you're finally back is pretty much already the highlight of my day. So glad to see you've made some progress, and are now feeling feels toward lonely pieces of corn. I look forward to going back to creeping on your page every week or so in anticipation of a new post. Good luck!
The corn made me laugh. Out loud. For a long time. You gave me a miracle! Thank you so very very much.
Oh thank you for writing this! I just reached out to my husband about my frequent but alarmingly-not-alarming wanting to not be, and you just described it so perfectly. It sucks that it happens to other people but i'm just so ridiculously relieved to not be alone. Thank you!
This describes exactly what I've been going through for the past year+. Maybe I should see a doctor...
This describes exactly what I've been going through for the past year+. Maybe I should see a doctor...
Thank you. May not of your bullshit be hopeless. May some of it be corn.
Welcome back.
It's like a more clever version of me wrote this. That is my life. Everything about it just screams 'me'.
I've been looking forward to you posting again for a long time. It's good to read your words and see your doodles again.
YAY YAY YAY. I'm happy you're writing again and I hope your path keeps going towards more corn.
Genius! I laughed and marveled. Loved it.
It's really remarkable that you're capable of articulating something that I think others perceive as a pure quale - trying to explain depression is like trying to explain color to someone born without sight. But you managed to express it well.
So, I've been through this degree of depression about 5 times in my life now, each time with unpredictable degrees of bleakness, unpredictable length, unpredictable timing. I want to say it gets better over time, but that's not quite right. It's that there's a difference though between pain and suffering - the pain isn't in your control, but tactics to ease the suffering can be learned. Sadly those just can't be learned while you're still in everything-is-bullshit mode. So now comes the hardest work: cultivating those self-nurturing skills, because if you're wired this way, you'll have to face the nothing down again in your life. I'd really recommend Jon Kabat-Zinn's book, The mindful path out of depression. (Note I am a professional scientist, not a new agey bullshitter, so don't scoff too hard!)
You're incredibly brave for sharing your story, and I think you made a lot of people feel less alone. Thank you.
Yep, that pretty much sums up the process very nicely. Going to be forwarding to all my Dr's & therapists in the OCD/Anxiety program and the Depression program I was in. I feel like it should become required reading along with sneaky hate spiral.
So happy you're back, and the fact that you manage to put into words EXACTLY how depression feels is amazing. I've been there, recovering right now in fact and recovery is a miserable bitch. But when you find that one thing that gives you the tiniest shred of hope, cling to it my friend.
You describe things in a way that makes complete sense when it shouldn't, and you have the ability to draw a miserable expression so perfectly that IT circles back on itself and becomes funny. I can't promise you a thing either. I'm glad you're reposting. And I *am* really sorry about your dead fish.
it's really wonderful to see that you're feeling again! my wife has suffered with depression for years, and this is quite possibly the most coherent, simple, and eloquent description of depression, and its effects. thank you so very, very much.
You're back you're back you're baaaaaaaaack!
I've missed you! I mean, I've really missed you. Like, I was thinking just the other day that I hoped you were ok and that I would like to send you a message saying that I think you're awesome, but that it would be kind of weird to do that out of nowhere. Actually I've been thinking that for the last year, and now I come to think of it maybe sometime during that year you would have liked a random message from a fan saying that. But then, you probably had that exact random message from a lot of other fans and then mine would have just been annoying.
I'm so happy you found amusing corn, and that things are a bit better now. I'm happy in a very selfish way, because reading H&H is one of the best things in my life and getting a new update has just made my week. But that doesn't mean I'm not also happy because it means that your life has got better too. I really have been worrying (and then worrying about the fact that it's really not my place to worry when we've never met or anything) because I admire you and I think you're brilliant and if you could see how much I'm grinning right now you would... probably sympathise with my inability to do facial expressions right, come to think of it. But I'm so happy you're ok!
Um. Yeah. I'm gonna stop typing now. I'll just be over here, feeling embarrassed.
wow...adorable...now i know there is another person out there like me who can really appreciate the dried up peach pit i found and gazed at it for hours like it was the most creative piece of sculpture that i have ever saw and my daughter said to me, what are you looking at and i said laughing hysterically look what i found...isn't it cool and she said, mom there is something wrong with you, throw it out...so i wrapped it up and put it in a box and mailed that dried up peach pit to my sister on the other side of the earth in seattle washington ... and when she got it she called me and i laughed again hysterically and she said thanks ... i said plant it...save it by planting it...and i was laughing so hard tears were in my eyes and i couldn't see. and then i realized...that's it!!! i can't see. and i don't need to see to laugh and feel really really good and really really alive! superbly creative!! with gratitude and love for keeping it REAL!
Welcome back!
What if I said that you are the piece of corn? What if I said that finally, let's say, "identifying with" something outside of yourself--ever so randomly--makes everything (emotionally) that followed totally understandable?
Thanks for articulating, in comic form, things that I have been trying to explain to people for a long time.
I periodically still feel like this, and it is nice to have a link to send people instead of ignoring them when I want to inform them that I do not wish to have any human contact.
Thank you for sharing, sloughing through all that bullshit to put this up for us. It sounds a lot like my own experiences and that is kinda scary!
I guess the best hopeful thing you can say is Maybe it's not All bullshit.
Hang in there. I will too.
I understand how dead those fish are. Maybe you should show the corn to someone who is really high. I bet they would think its super funny.
This is so accurate and fantastic, it's scary.
this post made me cry, because i know exactly how this feels. and because i came out the other side OK. hang in there.
Thank you for this. Someone very close to me recently told us she was suicidal and we've all been trying to figure out how best to support her in it. It's been confusing as hell. I feel like this might give me some really important insight that she's not capable of sharing right now.
So from the bottom of my heart, thank you. For what it's worth, I like you just the way you are.
Hooray for Corn! And I'm sorry for how dead your fish have been/are.
Thank you...
I had a long and very interesting conversation with a friend on G+ earlier this year where we talked about how western culture perceives some emotions as good and some as bad... and gets a bit dysfunctional about normal human emotional responses as a result. It took me until I read this post to realize that the useless and horrible reactions you get when you're depressed (and to a lesser degree when you're grieving) are mostly people being completely unable to understand that their model for "good and bad emotions" does not fucking work when you're sick (or deeply emotionally injured). So all their advice and "help" is predicated on the idea that their dichotomy of good and bad feelings is the only way that feelings work and it's really not... at all.
They try so hard and have no idea that they're discussing puppies and kittens when you've got dead fish. :(
But yea... thank you for writing this. I'd imagine just writing it was hell and it's both painful and comforting to hear some of my own experiences mirrored here. I'm not sure I'm ever going to get over how unpleasant it is to tell people "no, I'm just crying because I'm crying, you really can't help" and then manage their emotions so they don't think you're psychotic. ;_;
I thought I was the only one!! You have described this in a way I couldn't. I want everyone who knows/knew me to read this. Life is so better now, but just like you said back then. Thank you so much!
I experienced a bout of depression recently myself. It didn't last as long as yours, but everything you said sounds very familiar. My emotions have slowly come back to life, and I'm feeling relatively hopeful and optimistic again. It can get better, it just comes when your mind decides it is ready for it to. I'm glad to see that you are back. :)
I love you. keep kicking. Thank you for this.
Years ago I had a friend who made up and constantly sung a song where the chorus was just "Corn, corn, happy corn, corn. Corn. Happy corn."
Allie, I'm happy you found your corn.
On that note, I once wrote a song about jalapenos. It was a love song and the title was "You're so hot, I want to stuff you."
Thanks with extra hyperbole. Here's wishing you the right vegetable at the right times.
This is the most accurate description of what I've gone through, that has ever been written. Thank you :)
Just remember: those people you're trying to explain the fish to might have been there, too. They may know about the fish, but what can they do but tell you to soldier on? In the end, some of them were right, after all. Because they knew already knew about the corn.
thank you so damn much for this. just thank you. I send hugs even if you hate them at the moment.
Your first post on depression helped me out so much when I was going through a rough patch. But sadly, it was only a bandaide that allowed me to survive. I am happy you are posting again, and that things are looking up.
I hope one day I'll find my corn.
I'm glad to know you are still existing on the earth. Corn, dead fish and all. Hope you find a cornfield soon. We love you.
Thank you for these posts. They will help greatly in explaining to a couple of friends who don't understand what it's like. And I'd say, jeez, I've been through what you've been through, except that when I've been through it, it seemed clear to me that no one else could possibly be going through what I was going through. (And of course felt numb about that, too, like about everything.) For me, it wasn't a piece of corn. I was sitting in a doctor's waiting room and bored, and there was a sign saying "National Depression Week" or something like that, and a survey to take. So, bored and numb, I filled it out, although I knew I wasn't depressed, just--something else. And I handed it over and they whipped me into a room with a psychologist and that long, slow, agonizing climb from pain and numbness began. Best wishes for continuing recovery.
If I had never been on birth control, I would not know about that place where nothing has any meaning. You have described it perfectly. It was especially scary because I didn't equate how I was feeling (or not feeling) with adding the extra hormones to my system. Crazy how just a little chemical imbalance can push us over the edge.
Holy crap! I'm so glad that someone was finally able to explain depression. Thank you for your blog. Sometimes for me, your blog is like the piece of corn that makes me laugh uncontrollably and makes me think that perhaps life isn't hopeless bullshit. <3
Every once in a while I get depressed, and it's exactly the way you describe it. What I usually do to deal with it is just look at random things online - tumblr, YouTube videos, polyvore, etc. Just something I can do on my own, where I don't have to think or be aware of myself; something I can do to occupy myself cause I know that for the time being I'm not able to do anything useful. Since I'm not able to feel anything, most of the stuff I watch (even stuff I used to enjoy) feels pointless, but eventually I come across something unexpected (much like the little piece of corn) that makes me feel something. Whether it's something stupid that made me angry--or a blog post from you that made me laugh. :)
I'm glad you're back :)
Oh honey baby sweetheart. Depression is such an asshole. So much love to you.
Stay corny, my friend who I don't really know. Been there in a medically induced way through thyroidectomy. I would say it was the absolute worst but it wasn't, it was just.. nothing. We're here for you, reading and supporting and saying that fucking sucks when you need to hear it.
In addition to being overjoyed you are back, I have to say this is one of your best-illustrated posts ever. Every picture of you in your grey sweatshirt conveys so much emotion and humor.
Talking about your experience must have taken a lot of bravery, and getting people to laugh at something as horrible as depression is really healthy and important. This post gives me a strange sense of pride, like I know you personally. Your style just has that effect on me, and I think that explains why so many other people have missed you too. Welcome back.
Thank you so much for this! Perfectly describing how alien depression can feel, and how fucking isolating it is. I love the bit about hating everything positive, and secretly thinking it's all bullshit. I swear to God, if I hear one more person say "it gets better!" I will tackle them and yell into their smiling face "THAT'S! BULLSHIT! YOU! ASS!"
Love love love your work, Allie. Keep writing, you help so many folks (like me!). I'm always thrilled to see your little boat bobbing into view in the sea of the Internet.
A lot of people have made comments on this post. Here is mine.
Allie you are amazing and I think I love you.
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AMAZING.
For some reason, that last part made complete sense to me.
Glad to see you're back, and on the way to being a little bit better. yay corn.
So glad to see you back. You made me laugh and cry (before you even started talking about crying, *weird*)
You're my shriveled lonely piece of corn <3
Thank you for finally describing, in a way that no one else can, how depression really feels. It is hard to explain when you are in the situation, and even harder for people who aren't to understand. Brilliant - thank you for your honesty.
Thank you for sharing this...I can relate to your story and I know many others can as well. You are not alone and I wish you peace and healing. Hugs!
This is the most powerfully accurate description of depression I have ever read. I've felt so alone. I don't know how to describe what I'm feeling to other people, and the world just seems like such a vast, empty place. Being sad-depressed and depressed-depressed are so outrageously different, and explaining the later to people who haven't experienced it goes over like a lead balloon. Being depressed has made me feel like I'm going crazy because no one in my life is able to understand what I'm describing to them, but this makes me feel like seeking treatment might actually do something positive. Thank you so much for posting this.
We're rooting for you, Allie, all of us who've been through the shitfest that is depression and want to see you make it to the other side.
I had written a very long comment about some of the things in my life, but this thing became a buzzkill and told me I couldn't type over 4,096 characters.
That is oddly specific and it made me depressed.
SO INSTEAD, I copypasted all I had onto photophop, planning to link it like a little note for you.
But then it was a large scary wall.
So I made it pretty... -er.
Sort of.
I hope you get a chance or the time to look. It could be worth it. At least I hope it is, and isn't a waste of your time.
If it was, I would have massive guilt.
Anyhow...here's hoping it works. http://i385.photobucket.com/albums/oo296/Jerepasaurus/A%20folder%20for%20others/corn_zps1ac2fffd.png~original
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Thanks for writing this Allie. I think I understand why the corn was so funny. Because it was tiny and alone and shriveled on the floor, and so were you. And you found each other. Feeling camaraderie with a piece of corn would make me laugh hysterically too. I hope you continue to feel less shitty.
Life IS corny. And absurd too. And occasionally, meaningless for long stretches of time. Been there, 4 times now, for times that stretched from a year to about 3 years. Still alive, age 62. Or maybe I'm just dreaming.
Allie......Allie. I've been waiting for you , girl... You keep me going. I have had clinical recurring major depression for 17 years. I have sooooo been where you are , and even when Im not, I am always just waiting for it. But I survive through humor. And people like you , who GET it. You make me feel less lonely. Please don't leave us again.
So friggin happy that you're still alive. I was worried enough that I opened up and started writing an e-mail to you more than a few times. I always stopped before I sent them, cause you don't know me, and I had no right to intrude on your private moments.
I hope it continues to get better for you, and please know that you've got so many people rooting for you.
HEY ALLIE. I'm glad you're alive and I love you and I hope you feel obligated to stay alive. We are just going to sit here and love the hell out of you regardless of your feelings on the matter and regardless of what/when/how/if you post things. And there's nothing you can do to stop us.
Allie,
For someone who has felt that type of just -nothingness-, your blog post really reached me. I hope your feelings continue to come back and you find that balance in your life again. It is an awful frustration when people just don't understand that the FISH ARE DEAD. Glad to have you "back". Thanks for the post.
Blessings,
Charlea
It's always nice to be reminded that I'm not the only person who has ever had depression. I'm glad you found a piece of shriveled corn, and I'm glad you're back.
Mine wasn't a piece of corn. It was some god-awful worst-joke-in-the-history-of-everything line of dialog on some dumb TV show that I don't even remember anymore.
To this day, it's still the funniest thing I've ever heard. And I still can't remember what it was.
Your piece of corn is hilarious! Doesn't matter at all if you or anyone else can understand why. It has me laughing so hard that tears are streaming down my face.
I'm sad you went through 19 months of this. 1 day of feeling like that is too long. I've missed your posts. I hope this it the first of many posts to come. Welcome back!
You're wonderful. I'm sorry you're going through this.
That corn, is fucking hilarious. Make a necklace, show it to everybody forever.
My boyfriend suffers from depression. For a long time I was one of the perky ones. "Everything will be ok!" While I will never say that I fully understand what he's going through, I at least have a better idea. Thank you.
You nailed it...you effing nailed it! Seriously....no words to describe how well you did....so I will go with thanks....just thanks.
Thank you. Thank you so much for sharing this.
This is spot-on. And amazing. I'm glad you're back and I'm glad you're you.
Sometimes I think depression just happens regardless of your thoughts/actions. I have come to terms with the fact that life is mostly "meh" and often upsetting and only rarely produces happiness. (Whereas I used to think to be normal was to be happy all the time.) I have learned to cope with stress and to let go of things that really, really bother me, and to choose not to think about stuff that makes me sad. Even so, there are some periods of time where that becomes meaningless and not a single thing in the world moves me in the slightest. Just as you depicted. Then through a process very much like yours I eventually kinda rise out of it, and get back to "normal." It's incomprehensible, but it feels really good to see you put it to paper in all its truthiness, and to see how many other people relate.
Ha! I did laugh during the flinch-y parts. :) The great and powerful Brosh!!!! Also, you did a spot-on job of describing the nothingness that is depression. I don't think I've ever struggled with it to the extent you have/are, but some of what you wrote I thought "Wow... Yes! That is it. That's exactly it. Someone knows, someone understands!!"
Also, I love your faice. ..and I'm glad that little corn hid under the fridge for however long it was there. :)
I don't know if it is true or not because I'm not inside your head but... I think I know why the corn was funny. But not in a way I could describe.
Maybe because I've had a similar moment.
Either way, I'm glad that you have been able to update. You are awesome.
Allie I am so glad you are back. Thank you for sharing your always perfectly and uniquely presented take on emotions. Your blog has been a source of joy and inspiration for a long time and I was
worried about you. I hope you and your fish continue to feel better. Maybe you should have the corn set in acrylic or something to remind you of laughter. I bet it's still under the fridge :p
I'm so glad you're back. I'm happy to hear you're feeling slightly more hopeful.
This lived up to my incredibly high expectations.
It has been so frustrating for me trying to find someone who will take my feelings of wanting to die seriously, without freaking the fuck out. Almost always, it feels like my options are 1) I'm about to actually kill myself right now and need to be locked up or 2) I'm fine. It's so hard to communicate "I want to be dead, but I'm not actually going to do it, but it still is a problem that I need fixed. But the fix isn't to stop me doing it because I'm not going to do that, it's that I don't want to want it anymore."
Anywho, thank you.
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