I didn't understand why it was fun for me, it just was.
But as I grew older, it became harder and harder to access that expansive imaginary space that made my toys fun. I remember looking at them and feeling sort of frustrated and confused that things weren't the same.
I played out all the same story lines that had been fun before, but the meaning had disappeared. Horse's Big Space Adventure transformed into holding a plastic horse in the air, hoping it would somehow be enjoyable for me. Prehistoric Crazy-Bus Death Ride was just smashing a toy bus full of dinosaurs into the wall while feeling sort of bored and unfulfilled. I could no longer connect to my toys in a way that allowed me to participate in the experience.
Depression feels almost exactly like that, except about everything.
At first, though, the invulnerability that accompanied the detachment was exhilarating. At least as exhilarating as something can be without involving real emotions.
The beginning of my depression had been nothing but feelings, so the emotional deadening that followed was a welcome relief. I had always wanted to not give a fuck about anything. I viewed feelings as a weakness — annoying obstacles on my quest for total power over myself. And I finally didn't have to feel them anymore.
But my experiences slowly flattened and blended together until it became obvious that there's a huge difference between not giving a fuck and not being able to give a fuck. Cognitively, you might know that different things are happening to you, but they don't feel very different.
Which leads to horrible, soul-decaying boredom.
I tried to get out more, but most fun activities just left me existentially confused or frustrated with my inability to enjoy them.
Months oozed by, and I gradually came to accept that maybe enjoyment was not a thing I got to feel anymore. I didn't want anyone to know, though. I was still sort of uncomfortable about how bored and detached I felt around other people, and I was still holding out hope that the whole thing would spontaneously work itself out. As long as I could manage to not alienate anyone, everything might be okay!
However, I could no longer rely on genuine emotion to generate facial expressions, and when you have to spend every social interaction consciously manipulating your face into shapes that are only approximately the right ones, alienating people is inevitable.
Everyone noticed.
It's weird for people who still have feelings to be around depressed people. They try to help you have feelings again so things can go back to normal, and it's frustrating for them when that doesn't happen. From their perspective, it seems like there has got to be some untapped source of happiness within you that you've simply lost track of, and if you could just see how beautiful things are...
At first, I'd try to explain that it's not really negativity or sadness anymore, it's more just this detached, meaningless fog where you can't feel anything about anything — even the things you love, even fun things — and you're horribly bored and lonely, but since you've lost your ability to connect with any of the things that would normally make you feel less bored and lonely, you're stuck in the boring, lonely, meaningless void without anything to distract you from how boring, lonely, and meaningless it is.
But people want to help. So they try harder to make you feel hopeful and positive about the situation. You explain it again, hoping they'll try a less hope-centric approach, but re-explaining your total inability to experience joy inevitably sounds kind of negative; like maybe you WANT to be depressed. The positivity starts coming out in a spray — a giant, desperate happiness sprinkler pointed directly at your face. And it keeps going like that until you're having this weird argument where you're trying to convince the person that you are far too hopeless for hope just so they'll give up on their optimism crusade and let you go back to feeling bored and lonely by yourself.
And that's the most frustrating thing about depression. It isn't always something you can fight back against with hope. It isn't even something — it's nothing. And you can't combat nothing. You can't fill it up. You can't cover it. It's just there, pulling the meaning out of everything. That being the case, all the hopeful, proactive solutions start to sound completely insane in contrast to the scope of the problem.
It would be like having a bunch of dead fish, but no one around you will acknowledge that the fish are dead. Instead, they offer to help you look for the fish or try to help you figure out why they disappeared.
The problem might not even have a solution. But you aren't necessarily looking for solutions. You're maybe just looking for someone to say "sorry about how dead your fish are" or "wow, those are super dead. I still like you, though."
I started spending more time alone.
Perhaps it was because I lacked the emotional depth necessary to panic, or maybe my predicament didn't feel dramatic enough to make me suspicious, but I somehow managed to convince myself that everything was still under my control right up until I noticed myself wishing that nothing loved me so I wouldn't feel obligated to keep existing.
It's a strange moment when you realize that you don't want to be alive anymore. If I had feelings, I'm sure I would have felt surprised. I have spent the vast majority of my life actively attempting to survive. Ever since my most distant single-celled ancestor squiggled into existence, there has been an unbroken chain of things that wanted to stick around.
Yet there I was, casually wishing that I could stop existing in the same way you'd want to leave an empty room or mute an unbearably repetitive noise.
That wasn't the worst part, though. The worst part was deciding to keep going.
When I say that deciding to not kill myself was the worst part, I should clarify that I don't mean it in a retrospective sense. From where I am now, it seems like a solid enough decision. But at the time, it felt like I had been dragging myself through the most miserable, endless wasteland, and — far in the distance — I had seen the promising glimmer of a slightly less miserable wasteland. And for just a moment, I thought maybe I'd be able to stop and rest. But as soon as I arrived at the border of the less miserable wasteland, I found out that I'd have to turn around and walk back the other way.
Soon afterward, I discovered that there's no tactful or comfortable way to inform other people that you might be suicidal. And there's definitely no way to ask for help casually.
I didn't want it to be a big deal. However, it's an alarming subject. Trying to be nonchalant about it just makes it weird for everyone.
I was also extremely ill-prepared for the position of comforting people. The things that seemed reassuring at the time weren't necessarily comforting for others.
The next few weeks were a haze of talking to relentlessly hopeful people about my feelings that didn't exist so I could be prescribed medication that might help me have them again.
And every direction was bullshit for a really long time, especially up. The absurdity of working so hard to continue doing something you don't like can be overwhelming. And the longer it takes to feel different, the more it starts to seem like everything might actually be hopeless bullshit.
My feelings did start to return eventually. But not all of them came back, and they didn't arrive symmetrically.
I had not been able to care for a very long time, and when I finally started being able to care about things again, I HATED them. But hatred is technically a feeling, and my brain latched onto it like a child learning a new word.
Hating everything made all the positivity and hope feel even more unpalatable. The syrupy, over-simplified optimism started to feel almost offensive.
Thankfully, I rediscovered crying just before I got sick of hating things. I call this emotion "crying" and not "sadness" because that's all it really was. Just crying for the sake of crying. My brain had partially learned how to be sad again, but it took the feeling out for a joy ride before it had learned how to use the brakes or steer.
At some point during this phase, I was crying on the kitchen floor for no reason. As was common practice during bouts of floor-crying, I was staring straight ahead at nothing in particular and feeling sort of weird about myself. Then, through the film of tears and nothingness, I spotted a tiny, shriveled piece of corn under the refrigerator.
I don't claim to know why this happened, but when I saw the piece of corn, something snapped. And then that thing twisted through a few permutations of logic that I don't understand, and produced the most confusing bout of uncontrollable, debilitating laughter that I have ever experienced.
I had absolutely no idea what was going on.
My brain had apparently been storing every unfelt scrap of happiness from the last nineteen months, and it had impulsively decided to unleash all of it at once in what would appear to be an act of vengeance.
That piece of corn is the funniest thing I have ever seen, and I cannot explain to anyone why it's funny. I don't even know why. If someone ever asks me "what was the exact moment where things started to feel slightly less shitty?" instead of telling a nice, heartwarming story about the support of the people who loved and believed in me, I'm going to have to tell them about the piece of corn. And then I'm going to have to try to explain that no, really, it was funny. Because, see, the way the corn was sitting on the floor... it was so alone... and it was just sitting there! And no matter how I explain it, I'll get the same, confused look. So maybe I'll try to show them the piece of corn - to see if they get it. They won't. Things will get even weirder.
Anyway, I wanted to end this on a hopeful, positive note, but, seeing as how my sense of hope and positivity is still shrouded in a thick layer of feeling like hope and positivity are bullshit, I'll just say this: Nobody can guarantee that it's going to be okay, but — and I don't know if this will be comforting to anyone else — the possibility exists that there's a piece of corn on a floor somewhere that will make you just as confused about why you are laughing as you have ever been about why you are depressed. And even if everything still seems like hopeless bullshit, maybe it's just pointless bullshit or weird bullshit or possibly not even bullshit.
I don't know.
But when you're concerned that the miserable, boring wasteland in front of you might stretch all the way into forever, not knowing feels strangely hope-like.
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«Oldest ‹Older 2001 – 2200 of 4970 Newer› Newest»Allie, welcome back. I think you are incredibly brave, and I think the world is more beautiful with you in it. If you want to, print out these words on a little slip of paper and pull them out and read them when the Nothing creeps up. Because no matter how dead those fish get, I'll still like you.
No words to express how awesome this post was, and how you nailed depression so perfectly. Thank you.
I don't know you, but reading your account of the corn under the refrigerator, I found it hilarious too.
Pretty fucking brilliant, Allie. And insightful. And amazing. So, so amazing. @_@
You are totally not the only person who has had dead fish and laughed maniacally at a ridiculous shriveled corn. We are here! We are your tribe!
I have missed your posts. I won't say I know how you feel, but I've struggled with depression and it's hard to explain the "depths of despair" you can reach. Thank you for sharing.
Welcome back!
I am blown away by your post and so happy and grateful you are feeling a little better. All love and hugs to you.
I'm going through the crying for no reason stage right now, and it feels strange. I love you and your blog so much
This was my piece of corn. Thank you!
I'm so happy you posted. Of course I loved your story and it hits home, plus some of these drawings are epic as always, but I,m just glad to know you're okay <3
I've googled the classic WHAT HAPPENED TO ALLIE AND WHERE CAN I SAVE HER with few reponse expect your Reddit posts a few months ago, and having being suicidal myself I was just afraid you had taken that path.
Yeah, sometimes beings sentenced to live is worst than death. But you chose life and found corn, and that's popping. (see what I did there ? That's popcorn humor for ya)
I don't know if life will be good or if there's corn under my fridge, or anyone else's fridge, but I'm just glad to know you're still out there somewhere. :)
This is the best thing I've ever read about depression. I want someone to make it into a booklet I can hand to people instead of talking to them.
When being strong is to much to ask, just be human. Thank you Allie.
It was nice reading your latest post - I'm a free-lance life coach & have rare moments when I empathize w/depressed people, and that's when it seems like I'm sort of a cheer-leader, pom-poms and all, for some sort of cognitive abstraction so abstract it has no zip code, no e-mail address, and no validity at all. It might as well be Giant Spider Races on Mars (the notion of 'healing' & 'life worth living'). Good luck.
So glad you are back! And thank you so much for posting this - helpful to both the depressed and the friends to the depressed. Hope we keep seeing you!
I remember how I was going to do it:
I was going to break into the dorm room of the person who harassed me for seven months, cut my throat, spew the blood over all of his stuff, probably write a note if I had the life left in me, die, and have the world perhaps get a glimpse at how messed up the Royal Military College in Saint-Jean-sur-Richilieu is.
Unfortunately, I can't remember what my piece of corn was... I think it's so great that Allie has that physical symbol - no matter how bizarre the world may find it.
Like the countless others will say, thank you, Allie.
I'm sorry that you have been going through this. You aren't alone. HUGs.
I have so many wonderful and heartfelt explicatives in my brain about how right you are, how apt that description is, and how DEAD THE FISH ARE. But if I tried spitting them out I'd just be screaming profanity for several minutes and probably scare my (also neurotic) dog. :D
The other thing I wanted to say was, I had to explain what exactly PTSD attacks were and why they happened to my in-laws, recently. And I was in the same awkward position of having to comfort them, having just had a rather long black-out. At the time I kept thinking Holy $hit, Really? So while they probably still kind of hate me, now I feel like I can categorize their response as relatively normal under the circumstances. Instead of just hating them. Sort of. :D
But anyway, THANK YOU. I'm so glad you're back, bringing spit-takes and snort-laughs back into our lives!! The first time I read your blog was the Texas Track Meet episode, and it had to be the biggest belly-laugh I'd had in ten years. You are fucking hysterical, and I am so, so, so grateful.
Corn rules!
It wasn't a piece of dried-out corn under the refrigerator for me, but I know that exact feel. You have no idea how reassuring your story is for me. Thank you.
You seriously connect to so many people. Depression is scary and stupid and bullshit. And I hope you find your way to pull yourself up. I just want you to know you're awesome. And I promise I'm not a stalker. Often.
Brilliant brillant post. It should be required reading.
I don't think I've ever been so happy to hear about a piece of corn in. My. Life. Thank you! And if you would go ahead and pass the thank you along to the corn, too, it would be greatly appreciated!! Glad your back!
Welcome back! I'm glad you found your piece of corn and I hope the bullshit looks sort of hope-like from now on. You post hits the nail on the head regarding depression. Hopefully others can find comfort in it as well. Keep on keeping on!
I laught at the corn! It was playing hide-and-seek, right? And you found it! You were playing with food! Hahahahaha!
You may want to try marijuana sometime.
It is so nice to have you back! You explain depression so well... thank you for giving words and pictures to something that is so hard to explain to others. <3
You've made me so happy the past few months since I discovered your blog. Thank you for that!
I'm glad that you're back, and hope you can continue to feel better. You've got a load of people pulling for you. Not pulling at you, or pulling you, just for you. Take it easy!
Wonderful post Allie. You were already one of my heroes. Doubly so now. It's great to hear from you.
You're our lonely piece of corn.
Thank you, Allie.
I've had conversations with complete strangers about you and your column. Glad to know you're keepin' on keepin' on.
This was my piece of corn on the floor.
This should be in a psychology book somewhere. I have never been able to communicate how this kind of depression feels to anyone. This is exactly how it feels. I can't imagine anyone reading this post and not at least kind of getting it. Especially the corn and the fog and the fish.
I feel this. As in, I get it. I have been there. Not literally, I didn't get to find the corn. But I have been through the darkness. I have been through the wanting to stop existing. I found out that it was my brain chemistry being fucked up. Now I'm on meds. I like existing and things are good and I get to feel things. It can happen. It's really cool. But I know how much it sucks that your fish are dead. I hope you have new fish soon. Or something. Anyway,I love you and I'm glad you exist.
Very glad to see that you're back, Allie :)
I've gone through a lot of this same stuff in phases since I was pretty young, and it wasn't until a year or two ago that I honestly wanted to be dead because of how worthless I felt. I would look in the mirror and wouldn't recognize myself. It was a weird time, and I'm glad that it's passed. I'm still working on caring about things as much as I used to though.
Know that even when you feel hopeless, there are people that are hoping for you, and I hope that things will start looking up for you soon :)
*hugs* I love you in a meaningless sort of way.
Thank you so much for being so candid!! You hit the nail on the head with your statement "I don't necessarily want to kill myself, I just want to be dead somehow". Holy cow, how many times I have felt that. Thank you for sharing your story in such a wonderful, naked way. I pray that others get the hopefulness in your story. Because it's there. It's the realization that we are not alone...that other people feel the exact same way. Again....THANK YOU!!!!!
I laughed at the corn. Good to have you back.
I'll say it again: I'm so glad you're back.
And I'm glad you wrote this. I had a very similar journey, all the way down into the dark, taunting nothing, thru the wasteland of "Can I just...be done...with this whole living thing now?" and out the other side.
It's totally not rainbows and sunshine and unicorn poop and fairy pubes. But I can deal with that now. I get the days where it's just like "You know what? Fuck it. All of it. I'm not even gonna try. I'm gonna sit on the couch in my pajamas and fucking knit all goddamn day." And it's ok, cause I can try again tomorrow.
My moment of realization that things were gonna be ok involved a bag of frozen peas.
Don't ask.
I'm glad you're back :-)
This is exactly how I feel. I got down to the suicide part and that's exactly where I am now. Thank you for showing there's a way out.
Welcome back!
You captured depression perfectly. There's something horrifying about knowing you should be upset or scared and being completely unable to muster either, and it can be so hard for anyone else to understand. I'm really grateful you shared your experience, because you have a way of putting things into words and images so that they become clear even for people who, otherwise, might never be able to get it.
I'm glad things are heading in a better direction for you. I hope there are a lot more pieces of shriveled corn in your future.
I've been following your work for a while now, and am very glad that you're posting again. I, like many others, totally relate to what you're talking about, and you have put into words and pictures an accurate depiction of what it's like to be depressed. I'm sure you already know this, but you are NOT ALONE. It's hard fucking work to move through depression, and you are doing that work. I know you will succeed. And I love your corn story...it makes perfect sense to me! Keep on truckin', girl. The Internet is not the same without you.
Thank you. So much.
Hi Allie -- not sure if you'll even see this so far down in the comments, but I have to say that you've done a really excellent job of explaining the nearly inexplicable (non) feelings of depression as well as the inability of those who've never been there to understand -- their offering solutions for a different problem is spot on.
To be remembered: while reality, happiness, purpose might still sometimes seem like bullshit, there are THOUSANDS of people who think YOU are a funny, brilliant, worthwhile person not in spite of your depression, but because you can articulate so well that which most people find nearly impossible to even give a garbled explanation of...
What I've found helps me immensely with depression is to have a very concrete set of future things I need to accomplish. I know that just prior to your dropping out of sight you were talking about doing a book...I know you probably aren't in the mood to create a ton of new funny stuff...but please at least consider collecting your past stuff into a book, maybe via a Kick Starter campaign (go check out the success that the Saturday Morning Breakfast Cereal guy had)...it'd give you purpose (and money, which while not *buying* happiness, could at least put you on the beach somewhere for a while or something) and, frankly, all of your fans would love to both support you and have printed copies of your hilarious work (and even of this latest post, as one of the best things about your work is how open you are with yourself).
In any case, I wish you well and I think I can speak for all of your fans by saying that we're glad you're back and even seeing the slightest bit of sunshine & corn :-)
Richard Law
Thank you. Welcome back. May the corn be with you!
Allie, this is on of the most beautiful things I've ever read. I'm so glad you're back, and that you're feeling better. Your blog has made me laugh until I've cried SO many times, and I have always really appreciated it...
I've suffered from depression for the past 4 years and this is the FIRST time I feel like someone else gets it! I'm not a total weirdo - I have a successful career, wonderful friends and great family, etc etc... so when I'm having a hard time it's really difficult when the people around me don't get why I'm not happy.
I just really wanted to say thank you for writing this and then sharing it. You are really talented and I hope you know how much your fans love you!
I've been through awful, I-want-to-stop-existing-but-then-who-would-feed-my-cats depression more than once in my life, and can completely empathize and sympathize with you. It's such a hard struggle, finding the right meds, the right doctors to talk to, but I can honestly say that it can and will get better and that wasteland doesn't go on forever. I'm sorry you haven't had the support you needed (from folks thinking they're helping but who don't know how to talk to someone who is depressed) but the support is here, online, if you ever need someone to talk to who might sort of understand a little, I'm there for you. Yup, complete stranger, but sometimes talking to a complete stranger helps (and this goes for anyone reading this). I've been there and walk around knowing I could slide back there so easily sometimes, but I do feel better, I do feel happy, and I do live a life that's pretty okay with people I love. And kitties who kept me going through it.
Thank you for posting this - your honesty is utterly awesome and kinda comforting. I don't feel quite so crazy after reading this
Daaaaaaaamn. You're brave, I'm not sure I could have stuck all that out.
Thanks for sharing. :)
Allie! So glad to have you close to approaching the world again. We are all cheering for you!
Yay! You're back! I'm sort of in the HATRED!!! stage of trying to get rid of my depression right now, and I keep wanting to punch people with a truck. I sometimes even get the happiness thing, though! I hope you can get more of the happiness thing, too.
This was a very brave thing to share, and I think the sheer number of comments speaks for how much you were missed and how much we appreciate your blog. I hope you get through this and that everything isn't hopeless bullshit! THE INTERNET LOVES YOU.
#HUG Thank you for letting us know how you're doing. It's hard when you've got to slog through all the discomfort of being unhappy to get to the other side of it. I'm glad you're telling us about it and I'm sorry you're going through a rough time. It sucks. And people who tell you "just cheer up!! :D" are unbearable when you just want someone to acknowledge you're suffering. It's also my birthday today and not only am I really glad I got an update from my favorite comic, but that you're telling us what's been going on and you're being honest about how you feel and what you're going through. I'm really really glad you talked to us. If it helps, keep it coming. If there's anything we can do for you give us a shout. :)
Thank you for posting this. I feel as though I might have a glimmer of understanding about some people in my life now. Maybe I can be less uncomfortable for them to be around.
I'm so totally sorry your fish died. Really that sucks so much.
SO happy you're coming out the other side of this. I totally have been there...... ok, well, there hasn't been corn, per se.... we all love and miss you and are glad you're back. Keep on keepin' on......
I started to leave a comment here, because I wanted to let you know how glad I am that you're still kicking, but then I saw how many other people were saying the same thing, and I figured one more anonymous lurker chiming in wouldn't really be noticeable.
Thank you for making the two comics that I use to explain myself to normal human beings though. They mean a lot to me. Especially the hate brain.
Maybe all your fish are dead, but I still like you!
Maybe all your fish are dead, but I still like you!
Thank you for the check-in. As you can see, your minions haven't given up on you.
Hope to see you back again, soon.
As someone who struggles with depression himself, I "got" every part of this story - I've been there. I'm happy (I can actually be happy again, with the aid of massive amounts of medication!) to see you're alive and able to laugh again!
Thank you for the check-in. As you can see, your minions haven't given up on you.
Hope to see you back again, soon.
Well, you certainly got to the bottom of that. And Allie, it IS funny.
I laughed through the whole thing, save for the part about wishing nothing loved you. For me it was an inherited cat. That part I felt crying. But the rest, I laughed.
More corn, pls ... even if it sometimes feels like this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TMOMTtAMBI
Yes.
That.
That EXACTLY.
By the way -- if this happened REAL SUDDEN-LIKE, it MIGHT be a bipolar depression variation rather than a standard depression variation. The medications are different. Just a thing to talk to your psychopharm about.
Exactly. I remember being depressed one winter (seasonal depression?). It was without a doubt the worst experience of my life. I tried things to get me out of it like watching all my favorite movies, adopting a cat, hugging people, but mostly all that was achieved was lying around the house trying to escape the boredom and emptiness.
Eventually my feelings came back very painfully and slowly. I think at the beginning of recovery I was mostly just mad at myself. Why do I feel this way? I don't even deserve to call myself human. Isn't that one of the things that's supposed to separate us from animals... no wait plants? Oh my God I have the same range of feeling as a plant. What the hell is wrong with me! I don't remember when I started to have feelings of happiness again but I feel alright now.
Just keep living and push through to the other side. My you find more lonely pieces of corn to make you laugh. Oh and I have a name recommendation for the piece of corn... Wilson!
dear Allie -
Dead Fish and Corn. the best description. ever.
Thank you
I don't know if you'll really have time to read all of these comments, but I'll post it anyway.
I've struggled with depression myself for as long as I can remember. I honestly identify with the analogy of a kid playing with toys, but play has suddenly lost all meaning, because that's literally what happened to me.
I've heard all the rhetoric and advice and bullshit, tried tons of prescription drugs, went to therapy, all that... and for years--years--of my life, none of it helped one damn bit.
But I'm doing much better now, I feel much more stable. I attribute it to the latest round of meds I tried, but I honestly couldn't say if it's really the meds or if it "just happened."
Unfortunately, I really can't offer any advice. Probably because there is no advice that one could give that helps. It's an entirely introspective struggle, and you have to fight it on your own. All I, or anyone else, can say is, "I'm here if you want me."
Thank you so much for posting this. I have tried explaining what depression was like for me without success, but your posts just make it so much clearer for my family and friends who have never been depressed themselves. They don't understand why the thought "I can always kill myself tomorrow if today sucks too much" was such a comfort to me when I woke up in the morning. It meant I'd be alive for at least one more day.
We all love you, no matter the state of your fish! :)
Thank you. I can't even imagine how many people you've helped by so effectively describing depression and being brave enough to share it. Truly, this is one of the most courageous acts I've ever seen in real life. Again, thank you.
I just can't tell you exactly how much we all missed you, but know its a lot!
I hope this is the beginning of a new time for you. You deserve it.
Thank you for sharing this!
I am so happy you're back. You are amazing at being able to describe what so many of us are feeling. Thank you thank you thank you!
Allie, I have been praying for you for the past nineteen months as you've been in the pit of hell called depression.
You have described this hell-pit SO well. I can see from the above comments that others feel the same and appreciate your putting words and pictures to it.
I continue to send prayers good thoughts your way as you continue to claw (or crawl) out of this pit. I truly have even there--I've had my 'corn' moment too. Keep pushing through...you have zillions of people rooting for and caring about you.
I understand going through exactly that. Thanks for being brave and eloquent enough to say this openly.
You are awesome.
Welcome back, Allie. While all of your fans love and support you, not all of them can relate to what you're going through exactly, but I can tell you for certain that I can. I've been there. I remember the overwhelming sadness that came from no source I could find. I also remember the numbness, and that scared the crap out of me. I could look at my mom and think, "I know I love my mom, logically, but I don't *feel* it." I would walk into my bedroom and didn't get any of those comforting, familiar feelings one instantly feels when they're surrounded by their possessions. It's such a little thing - I don't think most people even register it until it's not there anymore. The best way I could describe what I went through was that I was like a lamp that had been unplugged from the wall. (Or maybe had its wires cut, that seems more apt, because there was no simple way to plug it back in again.) All of my feelings were still there somewhere, I just didn't have access to them anymore. The cruel part is that since I've always been a nervous person, my anxiety hit me full blast. I tormented myself over the thought of being "crazy." How could I not feel love anymore? Doesn't that make me a monster or something? I never seriously contemplated suicide, but there were times when I just wanted to stop existing because I didn't see the point in anything. I was tired of struggling through every single day. That was about ten years ago, and I've mostly been able to rewire the lamp. It's not perfect - it occasionally sparks and flickers and sometimes goes very, very dim for a few days, but it still burns, and I never lose hope completely, because now I know that there will always, always be a way to plug in again. I'm sure you've got thousands of people writing to you and you may never see this, but if you ever want to talk about it with someone who knows the feeling, you can drop me a line anytime.
Oh, and one last thing - even if some of your readers haven't been through depression before, you've created a very relatable (and sometimes hilarious) way of discussing it so that they'll understand where you're coming from.
I have had cloorn moments in depression. I have found that past cloorns don't work, and it always has to be a new cloorn. You never know when or where that new cloorn will be. The dead fish metaphor is spot on. Thank you for being a cloorn for people like me.
I am glad you are back.
thank you, allie.
As Vermonters have been known to say, "A-Yup"
My experiences, so similar, yet so different than yours.
I'm feeling ok now, trying to maintain balance with a good dose of laughter at least one a day-my cats help with that-also think I've menopaused FINALLY, so that feels good.
Maybe have a Doc check your hormone levels...? It happens early occasionally.
Other than that, I don't want to act like Mary Worth, but you, Allie, do have a lot of worth. Hugs and take good care of YOU as you can and will allow yourself.
I totally can relate to you. I've battled depression for about 15 years now and was only diagnosed as having bipolar type II disorder in late 2011. You hit the nail right on the head in an incredibly lighthearted, comical and sarcastic manner in which I appreciate, since too often people just don't get it the way the afflicted feel. Great work. As I've told myself for years, keep on keeping on. Glad to hear you've turned a corner.
Dear Allie,
The answer is...the corn is you. Somewhere, deep in the recesses of your mind, you recognized yourself in that tiny piece of corn. Tiny. Shriveled. Alone. On the floor.
Your laughter wasn't the laughter of humor, but rather, the laughter of recognition. A kindred spirit, if you will. And in that moment, you saw what you were becoming, and you rebelled against it.
I had my own moment with this many years ago - it was an ad for a bathroom remodeling service, and instead of replacing the tub, they were selling an insert that covered your old tub for a fraction of the price. The ad had a picture of the old tub - dirty, scuffed, dinged up, with a sad face. I couldn't stop staring at that picture, and in an instant, everything changed. I could relate to this stupid cartoon of a tub. I WAS the tub. And I laughed. And cried. And laughed while crying. Then I laughed and cried some more. That moment marked the start of a profound change in my battle with depression.
And I couldn't explain it to anyone. I'm still not sure I even did with this.
Depression is shitty. Sorry you're going through it, but you are still awesome.
I love Hyperbole and a Half. It's beautiful.
This is pretty much the most brilliant piece of illustration I have ever witnessed. Seriously, every picture is just fucking perfect and the text weaves into it flawlessly. AMAZING. Thank you for telling your story and for telling it so awesomely.
Having been through this, I can say that this was very similar to my experience of depression. Only much funnier. Creativity was my way out finally. I did some of my best writing when I was in that dark place...
Thank you for this post. <3 I'm just starting to have good days myself.
Generally everybody who says they know how you feel is full of shit, because everybody experiences depression ~differently and all. But I think your last point really does hit on something universal, because one thing about depression is the OVERWHELMING CERTAINTY that nothing is ever going to get better. And you're right, uncertainty is an improvement over that, because those kind of extreme absolutes are not normal and are a sign that something is going haywire in our brains. If you're 100% sure that this is all there is, there's no reason to live. But if you think there's even a slight chance that things could be different, you become able to believe that it's worth sticking around to see what happens.
I've also experienced uncontrollable laughing fits over nothing, or something inexplicable. I should ask my psych why they think that happens, since she seems to have memorized everything ever written about depression.
Thank you, thank you, THANK YOU for sharing this.
Congrats!
Glad to have you back because I am selfish and love to read the things you write, even though you don't always feel the same way.
Corn IS hilarious.
Yes, I agree. For nearly two years, it was a daily struggle. Glad you found your corn kernel! OR is it a niblet?
I will not be corn fused about my meaningless existence anymore. thank you.
I'm crying because of how much truth this is. You said it so well.
I'm glad you're back. As someone who has struggled with depression, I related to all of this so hard. May we all keep finding hilarious pieces of corn under the fridge.
It must be odd to have so many strangers relate to your experience... Everyone has already said it, but this is so right on and we're all thrilled that you're back. I have totally been there. Therapy and drugs helped me return to normal life. I hope you find good things ahead. Thank you for sharing!
Brilliantly written again. I'll be sharing. Depression and suicide are topics for my blog next week after a fellow dad blogger killed himself last weekend. :(
Weird, that part about figuring out how to feel things sounds a lot like what I've had to do because of Asperger's Syndrome. It's a funny thing to find out when you're like twenty years old: That you've feelings just like any regular person - you just don't know what they are!
And then you have to figure it out using second hand notes and careful self-examination until you piece it together, like that sensation of your heart being pushed up your throat means you're excited, etc.
Well, maybe it's not a lot like losing the ability to feel after you've had it all your life at all, but I thought it sounded like it.
Anyway, the lightness around my brow and cheeks, as if they wanted to float into the sky, tells me me I'm happy that you're still alive, Allie. I don't know what the Internet would do without you.
sanx
AUGH trying to cheer people up after you admit suicidal tendencies
IF I WERE STILL FEELING AS SUICIDAL AS I WAS LAST NIGHT
I WOULD KILL MYSELF RIGHT NOW TO ESCAPE FROM ALL YOUR FUSSING AND OVERREACTIONS AND ATTEMPTS TO REMOVE MY LAST SHREDS OF PERSONHOOD BY TRYING TO CONTROOOOOL ME
Er, yeah.
I hope you can continue to find your way back to some things that make sense and make life meaningful again.
WHY ARE ALL THESE THINGS IN MY HOUSE
I LIKED THEM ONCE BUT NOW THEY ARE JUST THINGS
Except for the cat
Does a fur person that doesn't try to make you be or do anything and just likes you as you are help at all? It helps me.
Glad to see you are feeling better. :) You hit the nail on the head. I went through a hell like that similar to yours. The first feeling I had was hate, and no one could understand my joy at being able to hate something. I've been on meds for 3 years now and I'm still doing well. I hope that it does for you too. You are not alone. There are many others that suffer out there like this. This may not help them get help by themselves, but it may clue in peoples friends and family to go get the person help since many times you have no will to want to find help.
just, love. in a place where i, and so many others, can relate so profoundly, you give us all our piece of corn. thank you.
fantastic. You should be published in print for sure.
I don't know you. I read your blog, and that's about it. Usually I reserve comments like this for closest of friends and relatives, but I'm seriously proud of you. Depression is the worst thing to have to go through and puts credence behind the saying "You are your worst enemy," but there should be another half of that statement that says ". . . But you're also your best friend." Many kudos to you and finding humor in things again, even if it did come up in the most random and serendipitous way.
So glad to see you back Allie, the world was a sadder place without you. I just wanted to take the time to say thank you to you, for all the times you have made me smile when I have been feeling down, and for always being able to put words to my thoughts better than I ever could. I found this blog when I was deep in a depressive rut, and it has always been one of those small things that has helped me get through the long weeks and months. My journey out of depression was long, painful, and certainly full of bullshit, but I can now at least pass as a normal human being, and even manage to be truly happy from time to time, so apparently it is at least possible. Just try to keep your chin up whenever you can, and if you can't, that's ok too, but it certainly never hurts to try.
In an atempt to not sound like I am puking positivity and hope on you I have wondered how to say this.. I am proud of you. It takes guts to say you lived in a barren waste land of bullshit...you lived in it and survived it. And btw.. Corn kicks ass :)
Yet again, a powerful portrayal of a taboo subject. Well done, and thanks for sharing.
Last night I stayed awake next to my dying father in his hospital room, intending to make sure that the nurses minded him. During the night I browsed some old journal entries and found one from several years ago when I feared he was dying, too (it's no longer a fear: he is). "I never wanted to outlive my dad," I wrote. And I didn't used to. I didn't intend to live beyond my 29th birthday, yet here I am at my 35th.
I hated the statement, "it gets better," but I have to admit - it does. It requires some letting go and some holding on, some digging in and some reaching out, but it does get better.
I want to believe that it will get better for my dad, too, because I know he is scared today. I want him to see death as a relief in the same way I used to dream it was. I guess I still do see it as such, but I feel less of a need for that relief these days.
LIve the questions, Rilke wrote. Don't get so caught up in them, though, that the questions consume you. Consumption does not lead to clarity :).
Hey, you've got talent and there are a lot of us out here who believe that. We see meaning in what you do and why you live, and I hope that you can learn to recognize it as well.
Peace and hope --
gentle_storm
Was trying to explain depression to a non-sufferer last week and failed miserably. This is so utterly brilliantly explained!
Having been 'well' for several years now (bar the odd close call), I'd just like to give you a big virtual hug and say well done for getting to this side, and keep looking for those chunks of corn! Sometimes they're all that keeps me this side of the big scary line that's so easy to cross back over. x
Thank you for writing this. Wonderfully well put. I wish I could be have this level of clarity about it. I'm a lot more stable these days but there are still periods of total nothingness. Reading this has been a wonderfully reassuring experience. Thank you again.
<3 <3
You have approached a very difficult topic with ease and humor. You are very brave. I hope that things continue to improve. You were missed.
This post made me laugh. Then it made me cry. Thanks for writing this you really hit the nail on the head explaining how depression feels.
You've described the self cocoon I needed to wrap myself in a few years ago. I still feel like I need that & try to create/not create my space. I think what helped was a sort of freeing myself to not be needed, to step away from people for a while.
oh my f'n god! I didn't know we were on the same field trip! For me it wasn't a kernel of corn... it was the 60 foot cottonwood in our backyard. Glad you are back from your trip, it does suck... and there are days when it will vacuum suck and you fear you'll be in 'that' place again. But find your corn again.
As for the sunny positive people (even your closest friends and family even)... they poop violets. Don't poop violets, please? Then you'd be boring. And there is already too much boring in the world.
ps. I really like the plane in your story.
YOU ARE BACK. So glad to see this post. Big big hugs and thanks for being and thanks for telling how I feel in a way that is much better than any words I could find myself. (See I can't even get this sentence grammazzically correct.) <3
Right in the feels.
Whether you realize it or not, your comic-blog has been my piece of corn on more than one occasion.
Thanks for that and thanks for sharing.
This was a wonderful post! So familiar it's almost scary, like you're experiencing all the things I have but expressing them brilliantly in a way I never could. Thank you for making me laugh and cry and feel feelings. Welcome back and I hope that you're feeling much better, we've all missed you.
:D
How we have missed you!!!
My younger brother is receiving inpatient treatment for depression right now, and I'm going to text him this link immediately. Also, because of you, I feel like I understand better what to say to him, and what not to say.
THANK YOU for being exactly who you are! You mean so much to all of us.
I can't find the words to tell you how much this post means to me (and I teach college writing and rhetoric, for crying out loud). So, I'll just say: Thank you.
I considered writing a really long comment about how much I appreciate this and you sharing this with us, but I don't think it really matters, so I'll just say, thank you for putting into words (and pictures) about how depression feels on behalf of people who don't know how to express it.
I've done a lot of floor crying in my day and I hope things continue to get better for you.
This is really great. Thank you so much for writing it! And may your future be full of shrivelled corn maybe
Corn!!!!!
I have been living in a very, almost scarily similar, situation for the past year or so. I am so glad that you found that piece of corn, living feeling that way is...well, there are no words adequate enough to describe the pain and loneliness.
I hope the rest of your emotions will return. Thank you for sharing this with us. I know how hard it is.
A) Glad you're back!
B) It's so weird reading someone else's description of this, yet having it feel so spot-on. I could never quite put my finger on how that lack of feeling "felt" (for lack of a better term), but you manage to describe it so well.
Missed your posts!
Thanks for coming back
There are so many things I can relate to in this post. The part about how to tell people you want to be dead? Oh, yeah...I've definitely been there! Personally, I think you explained things as well as they can ever BE explained. ;)
During my years of battling depression, I've never had a "laughing at the corn" moment. However, I do burst into tears for no reason over something really stupid, like seeing a really pretty color in the paint department at Home Depot. It's the WEIRDEST thing, and I do laugh about it while the tears are running down my face.
My mental issues are well under control now and I'm feeling great (been off meds for 18 years). My brain just randomly throws these things out at me, like Donkey Kong chucking those barrels. I go with the flow.
I hope you find your flow, too, Allie. Much love to you!
Welcome back Allie! You nailed it!
So good to hear from you again <3
I've been having a really hard time with depression these last few months... it's good to be reminded that I'm not the only person who goes through this kind of thing.
I can totally relate. I'm really glad you're starting to feel better, and I hope you continue to find little wrinkly pieces of corn :3
So glad that you're back. It's a long trip, though, so be patient. I always likened that vast wasteland to having a giant Shop Vac suck all the feelings out of you. Some days there would be a little bit of residual dust to remind you, but most days you wake up feeling sucked completely void of feelings and it only gets worse from there. I'm better now, but I know where you're coming from. Good luck.
I've experienced these feelings, albeit in much smaller doses. Thank you very much for sharing your experience and helping the rest of us avoid the stupider responses when dealing with depressed people. I hope that you find more hopeful bullshit in your life!
This hits VERY close to home. It's comforting to hear your take on depression and that you're doing better. It gives me a little hope for myself. thank you. Best of luck and keep up the great work.
Thanks Ally. Explaining depression to someone that hasn't experienced depression is a bit like dancing about architecture. You've done a pretty good job. I sincerely hope you find more shriveled corn kernels to make you laugh again soon.
I cannot tell you how excited/happy/perky-eared-dog-who-just-heard-the-front-door-knob-rattle-as-someone-gets-home I was when I pulled up my Reader and saw '2 new posts from Hyperbole and a Half'. I actually made a noise. -A noise-!
You have also put into words things I have never been able to put into words.
Our fish are dead. Long live our fish!
I'm sorry your fish are dead. I still like you.
Welcome back!
Thanks for the tip.
(under my desk looking for the corn)
Let me share that I once cried trying to tell my boyfriend's family what kind of pizza I'd like! I just- couldn't- decide! sigh.
Thank you for working SO HARD to explain depression to me in a way I will never forget. Everyone should read this so they can understand and not misjudge, offer useless advice like the deadfish people, etc. You may still be a long way from well, but you are a brilliant and giving person nonetheless. Keep working to stick around: the world needs you and that is not pointless!
May you always have a random piece or two of corn on your floor.
Allie- It's so good to see you back! Your blog is my favorite and I was so sad when it stopped. Even depressed, you are wonderful and I love you!
Welcome back Allie! Thank you for this brilliant and honest post. I understand the struggle you faced and the feeling of dead fish that no one seems to be able to see or understand. I have had my more than a few of my own corn moments in my life-long struggle with depression, so I found yours both funny and true. And I know it may not help to hear you are not alone, but you aren't. Deciding to walk back through that wasteland was a decision I made almost 20 years ago, and it took a looooong time for it to stop being the shittiest and most exhausting decision I've ever made. I for one am glad you kept walking!!
I laughed hard and cried hard while reading this. Then I sat and thought about how very brilliant you are. xox
I really dig your drawings! They are so evocative and hilarious with such beautiful economy of line. I had seen your 'cake' story a while ago which I like very much, so I was glad to see this newer piece show up on my facebook news feed.
The work you do is important and engaging. Thank You! I look forward to future entries.
Warm Regards, Jessica Dodge
Best description I've ever read of depression. Been there, done that, and you particularly capture how utterly devoid of feeling it is, and how absolutely isolating--nothing anyone says is going to help, and everyone just seems....exhausting. One of the things that fills me with rage (years after a major depression) is the stupid shit people say about it, like "just think positive" or "you can make yourself feel better" or "I wouldn't take antidepressants because I don't want that artificial drug in my body." Well, how about dying then? Because that's usually the other option in a major depression. Depression is not a feeling; it is an absence of feelings, and it is an illness, and one that can be fatal. I'm so glad you were able to come back from this, and really, really thankful for this which will help both those who have gone through it and those who can learn what it is like from reading your work.
Allie, it's so nice to see some recent posts from you. Thank you for your incredible honesty about your struggles with depression. My husband has lived with it for many years and I can definitely relate to a lot of what you had to share.
Wishing you continued good health and happiness. I hope you'll be posting more regularly again. :-)
You're amazing Allie. Brilliant.
Allie, I am SO HAPPY to know that you're back and that you're okay.
More importantly ... I get it. Sometimes there's no rhyme or reason to what causes the pendulum to swing ... and it can be just as stupid and inane a thing that causes it to reverse to overwhelming giggles than the thing that pushed it so hard into unrelenting tears.
I'm glad that you found your way back into the light (even if you're not all the way in the sun), however you got there. If it was corn, so be it. I'm just glad to see you again.
That picture of you sitting at the table with the coffee was so fucking hilarious!!!! The hoodie! The glower! and the arms of the chair!! Oh man!!
I have never been able to grasp depression in other people. I would probably be one of those annoying friends who is trying so hard to make you see how beautiful life is. This post is great! I am sorry that you are going through it, but it makes me understand better, if that makes sense. Hopefully I can just listen and not be a sparkle-blowing douche to my friends who are struggling. <3
That is a compelling description of depression. Would it be inappropriate to say, "I'm so glad you didn't stop existing!"? There's a Hallmark card opportunity if I've ever seen one...
Welcome back!
Thank you thank you thank you. I've struggled all my life with crippling bouts of depression and no one have ever captured it as perfectly as you. I'm two years out from the lowest point of my life and I am so grateful that though I can recognize what you are saying, I no longer *understand* it. Thank you.
Thanks so much for this. I'm also dealing with a dead fish problem right now. This helped.
Allie, I have never suffered from depression, the closest I have ever come to what you describe, was when I switched ADD medications.
I noticed that I wasn't feeling anything in regard to my surroundings I was simply reacting.
I was in college at the time for acting. For a student this I can see how this might be a benefit; don't worry about anything just get shit done. Perhaps this could even be considered a opportunity to sharpen my acting skills by convincingly portraying something I wasn't actually feeling...
Actually I never got the point where I thought maybe it could be a good thing. This was bad and I knew it was bad. I need my emotions, not only to do things, but to care about doing things. Otherwise why the fuck do them?
I immediately stopped taking the medication and switched back to the old stuff.
I wish that it could be that easy for you, just take (or not take) a pill. It sucks the biggest, smelliest, crustiest, dick, that you have to deal with this shit.
But if pills can help than why not little bits of dried up corn, eh?
Frankly I think its wonderfully perfect that the thing that has sparked a turnaround is something that no one else can understand, just like your depression.
Feelings the most personal thing in the world, even when we share them it's rare for them to be fully understood.
Crying because so yes, and also because I'm so fucking happy that that piece of corn was there for you. All hail the motherfucking shriveled corn, for it hath brought back one of the world's great treasures. No shit and not blowing smoke up your skirt, you are every bit as clever and insightful and spot-on as anyone ever celebrated for those things. People shouldn't just give you money for the things you say and draw, they should build you a fucking statue. Also, fuck all the people who are just happy their funny dancing monkey is back. I'm glad YOU are still breathing, whether you're writing or not. Love.
Maybe says something about me, but that corn is hilarious.
I guess it's like a vast featureless desert and then randomly, there's just this solitary, stupid-looking rock. It's just there, lookin' sooo stupid.
You'd crack up too.
Yes, this, all of this. Except for the juice, which never stays in its cup when I'm crying about it.
I know all of these feels (and lack thereof) all too well. You've done an amazing job explaining all of this, I hope that it helps others, so I'm sharing it everywhere.
So glad that you're back, Allie. The internet was a shittier place without you!
You are one heck of a communicator. Should I thank you for making me feel even a tiny bit as crappy as you have been feeling? I'm so sorry this happened to you. Thank you for the gift of your story. Happy, sad, pissed off, dead fish, piece of corn. I missed you.
LOVE this, Allie! I always love your work, but must admit this one arrived at the absolute perfect time for me. I recently had to leave my fiancee and my life totally fell apart. I've been oscillating between extreme anger and numbness in recent weeks. But I digress. The important thing here is that I, TOO, HAD A FUNNY CORN MOMENT! I was in a bathroom with a bunch of graffiti, and randomly remembered something my priest uncle found on a bathroom stall years ago. I immediately knew I had to share it with the world, right then and there. And so I rummaged through my purse for a pen; meanwhile people outside the bathroom started knocking, no doubt thinking, "this poor girl must have Crohn's disease or be in dire need of Metamucil." I made them wait, while I painstakingly added my addition to the graffiti wall: "BUT I DIDN'T EVEN EAT CORN." I promptly fell into hysterics, my underwear still around my ankles. I laughed for like 10 minutes after. Pretty sure everyone in the restaurant thought I was batshit crazy. Feel better.
Thanks for writing this. So many people are just glad to hear from you and know what's up, and I know that there are lots who will appreciate such a thoughtful description of what they're going through, too.
I hope that there is much metaphorical corn in your near future.
There are no words for how I've missed you. It was the most wonderful thing ever to see your post last night.
Please, please keep fighting. DO IT FOR THE CORN.
yes. i'm passing your work on because you explain it so much better.
one of my 'moments' was when i realized i didn't want to die, i just didn't want to feel that way anymore. whatever "that" feeling/non-feeling was.
Fuck depression (I partially cope with mine by having an insane pottymouth). You are gold-plated awesome and I still like you.
I have a friend who lives with depression. After reading this, I feel I can understand a little better what he's going through.
Hi Allie,
Until recently, I was in the space you described for 4 and a half years. I couldn't tell anyone because then, as you said, I'd have to comfort THEM when I, myself didn't have any emotional reserves.
I also suspect that I understand why you didn't post for 19 months. You get such a positive response from your readers, that *that in itself* is love for you, which you then feel that you have to live-up to. Obligatory upward-bullshit, basically. Obv conjecture, and if I missed the mark, I apologize wholeheartedly, but, my situation was not so different. I get it.
I don't know if you saw the comment above where the guy said that this post is his corn, but, in a way that's it: If life has no concrete objective meaning, then what are we to do? Now that I'm coming out the other side of my own depression, all I can say is, "give meaning to the stories which inspire rather than deflate." If that's cackling hysterically at a piece of corn? Awesome. Somebody's blog post? Great. None of the stories are *true* in some absolute sense, so, just pick the ones which support where we want to go to the best we can.
Finally, I want to point out that, over time, your depression (and mine) changes/changed. From detached apathy to constant hate to object-less crying to laughing manically! hahaha
Why take note of this? Because, when all is said and done, depression changes, yet if we end-it-all, we don't get to see where that change will take us, and it could be a place where things are better and we don't even mind that things are better. As someone said to me years ago, "suicide is a permanent solution to a temporary problem."
Anyway, to the extent that a little more marginal love won't make you feel obligated and overwhelmed, we love you and are thankful for your amazing ability to articulate what so many of us go through yet can't articulate. Finally, thank you for being so courageous as to post exactly what's going on for you in such detail. The raw nakedness of your story is simply the best.
Oh, and I pre-ordered your book yesterday. I hope my having done so makes your life better and doesn't create more pressure. Sorry for the long post.
Love you and feel for you Allie, but Trigger warning in the beginning of the post maybe? Slight anxiety attack here =/
Glad you're writing again. I'm in the pointless boring wasteland right now myself, and it was sort of surprising to see it described to accurately.
Anyway, I do hope you're feeling better. I'll go back to my dark empty room now.
exactly.
Welcome back! <3
Welcome back! <3
It was so great of you to share this!
I really hope that all our love and adoration doesn't pressure you into creating things when you don't feel like it. Or feeling like you're letting us down when you don't have the energy or enthusiasm to create things. Stuff is hard! You don't owe us anything!
Take care.
Thank you so much for posting this and I am so sorry you're going through this.
It is truly remarkable that you were able to really just open up about this through your comic and reach out to so many who I am sure have gone through similar periods of darkness. Thank you for that.
Hugs and love and welcome back - we're all here with you in a trying-not-to-be-creepy-internet-friendship-kinda-way.
Feelings suck and are totally confusing. Especially when you haven't had ANY for a long time. I'm so sorry.
I'm with you hoping that there's an end to the boring. :)
Thank you for posting!
This comic may well have been my piece of corn. Thank you for taking the time to make it and place it under the fridge.
THANK YOU FOR GIVING US A VOICE. THANK YOU SO MUCH. SERIOUSLY. YOU ARE AN EXPLANATION THAT PEOPLE AROUND ME CAN UNDERSTAND. AND I THINK I FORGOT HOW NOT TO CAPSLOCK.
oh wait, I remembered. But yes, yes to all of this. Yes so many times.
Thanks for sharing this and for the uncomfortable laughs. I feel like this post will help a lot of people be able to better understand their own feelings or relate to others'.
I'm glad you're back and that things seem to be starting to get better for you. I think you're an amazing individual, and so do many others. I know it probably sounds a bit trite, but I hope you feel this way about yourself soon.
I never had the lack-of-feelings depression for that long. It sounds lame.
Also I totally understand how positive cheerful people who don't understand how THINGS work can be frustrating.
I used to have a friend tell me to treat my PTSD with a hot bubble bath, because it worked when she felt stressed out.
Thank you!!!!!!
I don't think I've ever read anything that so accurately describes what depression is like. Absolutely fantastic. It is like you are a forensic artist for the depressive person. There is nothing else to say.
oh god/desse/s so true: how do you bring up suicide casually, especially to people who have probably never ever even once considered non-existence as ideal or even preferable for just a moment? do we need a suicide discussion group?
or is that just me.
it may be of no value to you at all, but myself, I realized at some point that I was going to have to ask the fish what killed them. they didn't answer for a long time, what with being dead and everything, but sometimes a little fish ghost will whisper something to me now and although Happiness has not yet descended upon me, I am beginning to think my death may turn out to be of those "natural causes" that catch us all unawares.
I hope that writing/drawing this was something like fun or enjoyable or useful or even helpful. reading it was all those things!
Glad it was a piece of corn for you.
For me the "snapping" moment was when I was already in a warm bath with a razor pressed against my wrist, and suddenly I had to pee, and I thought, hey, I kinda don't want to die in a bath full of my own piss. Because that's totally a thousand times more shameful than just killing yourself in a bath. And it's been a slow back-to-normal over the past year since then.
It's still total bullshit, all of it, but I kinda want to see what happens.
i dont know if it makes you feel any better but you have made me extremely happy. that makes me feel guilty since you're going through so much and im not like Obama or Leonardo DiCaprio but you've made a lot of people happy. not even cute little bunnies can say that! thanks so much for coming back
Yes...THAT. ALL of THAT. I'm with you. Here's to the final strand of hope that it isn't all bullshit...
Words that have carried me for nearly 2 yrs...
"Nothing is going to work out and it will all be fine." Pema Chodron
You are brave to share this. With many thanks.
This is the best description of depression.. ever. <-- Period.
You have gifted so many people with the words and ways to describe -- no not what depression "feels" like... but what it is.
What happens.
Also? I think the corn is hilarious.
Allie-
You make life a little bit better for a lot of people, including me. We care about you and wish you well. You don't owe us anything, so don't feel like you do. The next time things look dark, remember that you are important and you help other people.
You made me look under my fridge.
My mom struggled with depression her entire life. 3 years ago she attempted suicide, and 3 weeks ago the resultant kidney failure finally finished the job. This tiny window into her soul helped in a way that nothing for the last 3 years has. Thank you.
Wooow!! It's like you've just put the last 2 years of my life in text and pictures (maybe not the corn part haha)!!!
You are such an awesomely funny writer it's crazy, I laughed so damn hard!!!
But it also made me very emotional. You seemed to have been able to put such exact words as to what I was (not?) feeling at the time...!!!
You are amazing....
Touched a nerve. Glad you're still around.
As I'm sure everyone has already said, I am so glad that you are okay! You make us all happy with your stories and drawings (even the ones about depression and suicidal thoughts, apparently) and we missed you. ((HUGS))
Thanks for being my piece of corn.
Last night I made dinner while snotting and crying all over it, I was feeling so dumb and tired of not feeling right. Tired of feeling tired. Tired of everything. The pressure of demands squashing me like a bug. Then being pissed that I have to clean myself up off the floor. Anyway, thanks for sharing your trudge through the murky swamp of blargh and battling The Nothing instead of letting it eat you.
I was starting to think that you couldn't possibly be human with all of your wit and hilariousness but, alas, I was wrong. When I was depressed I thought the key was to learn how to be happy with not being happy and one day my world just shifted. Not necessarily back to "normal" but things seemed better afterwards like when you found that piece of corn. All I can say - because I have ZERO words of wisdom for ya - is that I'm glad your shift significant enough that you've decided to start writing again. You've been missed!
Oh man I've totally sobbed on the kitchen floor for no reason plenty of times. Also sometimes I feel like my brain is working at 99% of anxiety capabilities and if I could just squeeze out one tear I could unleash a wave of tears and thus feel relieved.
This is absolutely brilliant.
Thank you so much for continuing to write, to share, and ... to be.
You are important. (Not in a religious-y "god loves everyone" kind of way, but in a "the universe needs you to tell your stories" way.)
Sorry to hear about your fish. I still like you, though.
I'm really glad you shared this! I am wishing the best for you, I have always enjoyed your blog, and check back every now and then, just hoping you posted!
Been there! My piece of corn was an exploding can of root beer. After that, I knew I was on the right road. Took awhile, but I'm ok now. Loved your story!
So, I've been reading your blog for a very long time now and I've never left a comment before because I'm not very good with words, but for some reason I seem to think it's suuuper important to leave a comment telling you how I feel now, so I will try...
Me love post. Me cry, me laugh. (not trying to taunt you with feelings) You are genius with explanations. If you make more, I will read. If not, ok. I still love others.
yes. this.
ive felt all of this. i wish i could remember what it was that set me off on my hysterical 3 days of giggling til i puked so i could write about it too, but one of the things that stopped meaning anything was writing, so now i dont do it for myself anymore..
and to be honest, one of the things that did help me was finding your blog a few years ago... im still not out of it, but it is getting heaps better..
im so glad you're here again... you've been missed.. and i hope you keep going, and that things keep getting better and that one day you find yourself reaching out to someone you'e never met and realising HOW MUCH better you are like i am right now!!
thanks allie, really, thank you..
just keep on going honey.
Thank you for this.
My friend was unable to see that piece of corn on the floor and took his own life on Sunday. I wish he could have read this.
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