Depression Part Two

I remember being endlessly entertained by the adventures of my toys. Some days they died repeated, violent deaths, other days they traveled to space or discussed my swim lessons and how I absolutely should be allowed in the deep end of the pool, especially since I was such a talented doggy-paddler.


I didn't understand why it was fun for me, it just was.


But as I grew older, it became harder and harder to access that expansive imaginary space that made my toys fun. I remember looking at them and feeling sort of frustrated and confused that things weren't the same.


I played out all the same story lines that had been fun before, but the meaning had disappeared. Horse's Big Space Adventure transformed into holding a plastic horse in the air, hoping it would somehow be enjoyable for me. Prehistoric Crazy-Bus Death Ride was just smashing a toy bus full of dinosaurs into the wall while feeling sort of bored and unfulfilled.  I could no longer connect to my toys in a way that allowed me to participate in the experience.


Depression feels almost exactly like that, except about everything.

At first, though, the invulnerability that accompanied the detachment was exhilarating. At least as exhilarating as something can be without involving real emotions.


The beginning of my depression had been nothing but feelings, so the emotional deadening that followed was a welcome relief.  I had always wanted to not give a fuck about anything. I viewed feelings as a weakness — annoying obstacles on my quest for total power over myself. And I finally didn't have to feel them anymore.

But my experiences slowly flattened and blended together until it became obvious that there's a huge difference between not giving a fuck and not being able to give a fuck. Cognitively, you might know that different things are happening to you, but they don't feel very different.


Which leads to horrible, soul-decaying boredom.



I tried to get out more, but most fun activities just left me existentially confused or frustrated with my inability to enjoy them.


Months oozed by, and I gradually came to accept that maybe enjoyment was not a thing I got to feel anymore. I didn't want anyone to know, though. I was still sort of uncomfortable about how bored and detached I felt around other people, and I was still holding out hope that the whole thing would spontaneously work itself out. As long as I could manage to not alienate anyone, everything might be okay!

However, I could no longer rely on genuine emotion to generate facial expressions, and when you have to spend every social interaction consciously manipulating your face into shapes that are only approximately the right ones, alienating people is inevitable.


Everyone noticed.


It's weird for people who still have feelings to be around depressed people. They try to help you have feelings again so things can go back to normal, and it's frustrating for them when that doesn't happen. From their perspective, it seems like there has got to be some untapped source of happiness within you that you've simply lost track of, and if you could just see how beautiful things are...


At first, I'd try to explain that it's not really negativity or sadness anymore, it's more just this detached, meaningless fog where you can't feel anything about anything — even the things you love, even fun things — and you're horribly bored and lonely, but since you've lost your ability to connect with any of the things that would normally make you feel less bored and lonely, you're stuck in the boring, lonely, meaningless void without anything to distract you from how boring, lonely, and meaningless it is.


But people want to help. So they try harder to make you feel hopeful and positive about the situation. You explain it again, hoping they'll try a less hope-centric approach, but re-explaining your total inability to experience joy inevitably sounds kind of negative; like maybe you WANT to be depressed. The positivity starts coming out in a spray — a giant, desperate happiness sprinkler pointed directly at your face. And it keeps going like that until you're having this weird argument where you're trying to convince the person that you are far too hopeless for hope just so they'll give up on their optimism crusade and let you go back to feeling bored and lonely by yourself.


And that's the most frustrating thing about depression. It isn't always something you can fight back against with hope. It isn't even something — it's nothing. And you can't combat nothing. You can't fill it up. You can't cover it. It's just there, pulling the meaning out of everything. That being the case, all the hopeful, proactive solutions start to sound completely insane in contrast to the scope of the problem.

It would be like having a bunch of dead fish, but no one around you will acknowledge that the fish are dead. Instead, they offer to help you look for the fish or try to help you figure out why they disappeared.


The problem might not even have a solution. But you aren't necessarily looking for solutions. You're maybe just looking for someone to say "sorry about how dead your fish are" or "wow, those are super dead. I still like you, though."


I started spending more time alone.


Perhaps it was because I lacked the emotional depth necessary to panic, or maybe my predicament didn't feel dramatic enough to make me suspicious, but I somehow managed to convince myself that everything was still under my control right up until I noticed myself wishing that nothing loved me so I wouldn't feel obligated to keep existing.


It's a strange moment when you realize that you don't want to be alive anymore. If I had feelings, I'm sure I would have felt surprised. I have spent the vast majority of my life actively attempting to survive. Ever since my most distant single-celled ancestor squiggled into existence, there has been an unbroken chain of things that wanted to stick around.


Yet there I was, casually wishing that I could stop existing in the same way you'd want to leave an empty room or mute an unbearably repetitive noise.


That wasn't the worst part, though. The worst part was deciding to keep going.


When I say that deciding to not kill myself was the worst part, I should clarify that I don't mean it in a retrospective sense. From where I am now, it seems like a solid enough decision. But at the time, it felt like I had been dragging myself through the most miserable, endless wasteland, and — far in the distance — I had seen the promising glimmer of a slightly less miserable wasteland. And for just a moment, I thought maybe I'd be able to stop and rest. But as soon as I arrived at the border of the less miserable wasteland, I found out that I'd have to turn around and walk back the other way.


Soon afterward, I discovered that there's no tactful or comfortable way to inform other people that you might be suicidal. And there's definitely no way to ask for help casually.


I didn't want it to be a big deal. However, it's an alarming subject. Trying to be nonchalant about it just makes it weird for everyone.


I was also extremely ill-prepared for the position of comforting people. The things that seemed reassuring at the time weren't necessarily comforting for others.


I had so very few feelings, and everyone else had so many, and it felt like they were having all of them in front of me at once. I didn't really know what to do, so I agreed to see a doctor so that everyone would stop having all of their feelings at me.


The next few weeks were a haze of talking to relentlessly hopeful people about my feelings that didn't exist so I could be prescribed medication that might help me have them again.


And every direction was bullshit for a really long time, especially up. The absurdity of working so hard to continue doing something you don't like can be overwhelming. And the longer it takes to feel different, the more it starts to seem like everything might actually be hopeless bullshit.


My feelings did start to return eventually. But not all of them came back, and they didn't arrive symmetrically.

I had not been able to care for a very long time, and when I finally started being able to care about things again, I HATED them. But hatred is technically a feeling, and my brain latched onto it like a child learning a new word.


Hating everything made all the positivity and hope feel even more unpalatable. The syrupy, over-simplified optimism started to feel almost offensive.


Thankfully, I rediscovered crying just before I got sick of hating things.  I call this emotion "crying" and not "sadness" because that's all it really was. Just crying for the sake of crying. My brain had partially learned how to be sad again, but it took the feeling out for a joy ride before it had learned how to use the brakes or steer.


At some point during this phase, I was crying on the kitchen floor for no reason. As was common practice during bouts of floor-crying, I was staring straight ahead at nothing in particular and feeling sort of weird about myself. Then, through the film of tears and nothingness, I spotted a tiny, shriveled piece of corn under the refrigerator.


I don't claim to know why this happened, but when I saw the piece of corn, something snapped. And then that thing twisted through a few permutations of logic that I don't understand, and produced the most confusing bout of uncontrollable, debilitating laughter that I have ever experienced.


I had absolutely no idea what was going on.


My brain had apparently been storing every unfelt scrap of happiness from the last nineteen months, and it had impulsively decided to unleash all of it at once in what would appear to be an act of vengeance.


That piece of corn is the funniest thing I have ever seen, and I cannot explain to anyone why it's funny. I don't even know why. If someone ever asks me "what was the exact moment where things started to feel slightly less shitty?" instead of telling a nice, heartwarming story about the support of the people who loved and believed in me, I'm going to have to tell them about the piece of corn. And then I'm going to have to try to explain that no, really, it was funny. Because, see, the way the corn was sitting on the floor... it was so alone... and it was just sitting there! And no matter how I explain it, I'll get the same, confused look. So maybe I'll try to show them the piece of corn - to see if they get it. They won't. Things will get even weirder.


Anyway, I wanted to end this on a hopeful, positive note, but, seeing as how my sense of hope and positivity is still shrouded in a thick layer of feeling like hope and positivity are bullshit, I'll just say this: Nobody can guarantee that it's going to be okay, but — and I don't know if this will be comforting to anyone else — the possibility exists that there's a piece of corn on a floor somewhere that will make you just as confused about why you are laughing as you have ever been about why you are depressed. And even if everything still seems like hopeless bullshit, maybe it's just pointless bullshit or weird bullshit or possibly not even bullshit.


I don't know. 

But when you're concerned that the miserable, boring wasteland in front of you might stretch all the way into forever, not knowing feels strangely hope-like. 






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Anonymous said...

I actually don't feel uncomfortable about laughing at any of the many, many spots I laughed. It was laughter of recognition. Know exactly what this feels like, and can't believe you summed it up so well. Wait, can believe, because you are damn fine at what you do.

Zo. ॐ said...

This rings so true and I'm left crying (and laughing a little, too). <3

Anonymous said...

It sounds like bullshit but you're incredible. Your two posts on depression have resonated so deeply with me and expressed exactly what I've, at lengthy times in my life, needed those around me to understand. You're incredible and I would hug you if I could but I hope somebody does.

Unknown said...

My hopeful place came when I realized that being depressed doesn't make me a bad person. Being told all the time if I could just be positive enough I wouldn't be depressed and then failing miserably was just causing this hate loop, hate of myself. I wanted to die too. I'm better now. I thought of you often and wished you peace.

Anonymous said...

Looking for my corn at the moment, actually. Thanks for the post. Maybe this will help other people to understand depression the way or feels for us. (Or, doesn't feels)
<3

Shelley Owen said...

What everyone else just said times infinity. I will never, ever, look at the shriveled stuff under my refrigerator in the same way again. I will treat that crap with the respect and dignity it now deserves - as an inexplicably funny spirit guide that made you laugh, and brought you back to us.

Much, much love to you. Thank you.

Unknown said...

Alot of people needed this post. <3

I'm glad that even though you continue to trudge through these horrible experiences, your words will help those of us who have never experienced these feelings (or lack thereof), but have depressed friends or family who we really can't relate to fully.

I hope that by venting your emotions to us strangers--who by the way appreciate you more than you may ever fully feel--will help you overcome your feelings of wanting to be dead as well as empower others going through the same thing to keep searching for those kernels.. and hope it's better tomorrow.

Tracy Cook said...

I have suffered bi-polar disorder all my adult life (32 years worth) the depression part being the hardest and longest at least three times a year, I have never read anything that so perfectly describes the feelings of depression and the various stages it goes through...what a very clever lovely person you are for sharing and articulating this so well. I wish you all the best with a virtual hug. I will repost on Facebook and hope many many people take the time to read this and maybe understand how to approach someone who is depressed. <3

Puppy said...

May the Corn be with you! Always...

Unknown said...

Amazing, I found this completely by chance, but.. Have you ever tried to get this published?? Seriously, I have not read a single more accurate description of what depression feels like, anywhere, ever! And having been there, trying to explain what it's like to those people, this would be SO useful.

You know those little leaflets they have in counselling centres where someone tries to explain to you medically what it is so you don't feel bad? Imagine Picking this up? It'd be the best thing ever! The pictures too! I love it, keep it up :D

Anonymous said...

I can relate to this so much that it helped me find comfort in some strange way! I can feel like this for an hour, a day or week. My moods can be that unstable. It's a terrible feeling really. BUT the sweetcorn bit made me laugh and smile. Also I relate to how I can find the smallest irrelevant object lifts my mood!

Pam said...

I'm so glad you found your corn. And I'm sharing this with someone who hasn't found theirs yet in the hopes he finds his. Or something.

Welcome back. The Internet is a little brighter again.

krunchifrog said...

I had standing at the kitchen sink crying rather than lying on the kitchen floor crying, but it's a similar flavour.

It was 2001 and fortunately for me it stopped being hopeless bullshit but it took a while.

Sharing your experience not only helps your fans understand what's been going on for you, but also helps people who know someone who's suffering depression understand what they are going through.

Keep on keeping on as best as you can.

Anonymous said...

So happy to have you back and thank you for being so honest about what these past months have been like you for. You've been missed!

donnaraye said...

Wow! Amazing description of your feelings. Happy you are back and on the road to wherever we are all headed - thank heavens for the corn!

Anonymous said...

For what it's worth, I cackled at the corn too. Sometimes absurdity is the only piece of the puzzle you can still find after the cat knocks half of it into the heater vent. That ass.

Rosalie said...

This whole post really struck a chord with me. I've been there; that was me once. It feels good to know there are people out there who *get* it. I'm so incredibly glad you're back and also not dead; I was pretty worried you might not come back.

Thank you for an amazing post, keep up your recovery (if that's what you can call it), and hang in there.

<3

Anonymous said...

Your blog has often been my piece of corn. I've learned more about myself from reading your posts on depression than a whole gang of therapists could teach me. It's kind of weird to miss someone you've never met, but there it is. I'm so glad you're back.

Unknown said...

I want to share with you a blog post I wrote in Oct. 2010. You put it much better and in a much more entertaining way, but yeah...I get it. Thanks for being so honest.

Anonymous said...

Allie, you're an eloquent advocate and a real hero to many :) Thank you for sharing this. So glad to have you back!

Amanda said...

Just... thank you for this post. And thank you for being back. I've missed you in a really inappropriately personal way.

Anonymous said...

Judging from the number of people who have already commented...we are not the only two people in the world to feel this way.
I feel like I have been walking away from the fence of suicide, then pretending things are okay, but my fish are still dead after five years.

Rosalie said...

This whole post really struck a chord with me. I've been there; that was me once. It feels good to know there are people out there who *get* it. I'm so incredibly glad you're back and also not dead; I was pretty worried you might not come back.

Thank you for an amazing post, keep up your recovery (if that's what you can call it), and hang in there.

<3

Rudy Breteler said...

You have a great deal to share with the world. I'm thankful you're sharing it.

Anonymous said...

I'm still looking for my corn. Its nice to know its possible to find it.

Unknown said...

Yay, you! I get the corn thing. I hope you saved that wretched little piece of corn. If you did, get a shadow box and frame it. I also recommend carrying a crappy little piece of corn in your pocket every day now!!! Meh, just for emergencies. Or to find some small amount of joy in having a tiny crazy secret. <3

jb said...

I'm so glad you're back, Allie! Your post is wonderful. Thanks for sharing.

Strongit said...

I'm totally there right now. When I'm at work it's hate and frustration, at home it's the boredom and apathy. And socializing is the same way. Put on the fake smile in public to make things seem okay but you can't relate to anyone because you can't really feel anything. Here's hoping we both get through to the other side.

Laura Strother said...

Sorry about your dead fish.

Hope we'll be seeing more posts from you soon...about dead fish or otherwise!

Sadia said...

Been there. I never thought it would end, but it did. Enough that I chose to have kids.

*hugs*

Anonymous said...

I know you probably have too many comments to read, but what I'm struck by is that I went through a major depression when I was 13 and 14, "didn't feel" exactly how this was, had experiences with people that were just like this, and started to feel better in much the same way. I know that it's a lot to ask a person you've never met to please stick around, but please stick around because of the kids who are 12 or 13 who might read this and realize they can pull out of it, that this is *how* it happens. Stupid pieces of corn just existing. Brilliant, we missed you and we love you and thank you for posting this.

Brittany C. said...

I am so glad you are back. My friends and I have missed you. Alot. No, I'm kidding, we missed you A LOT. But, we also missed you, ALOT. The end :)

Suzanne said...

I'm so sorry your fish were so dead. But I am so glad you found that piece of corn.

Cody Alan Reel said...

This is pretty cool :)

I think you laughed at the corn because you felt like you could finally relate to something (something that was all by itself, alone in the floor) and I love what you said about the falsely optimistic people.

I'm learning that we can't all be goodie-two shoes-friends with each other, and that's ok.

This did remind me of my depression so it sucks bringing that up.

But somehow, it goes away on its own.

The more you fight it, the worse it gets, it seems.

Monika said...

<3 Thank you, Allie. I am really glad you are back.

Dave said...

From someone else who has wandered that wasteland: good. it's a start. there's still a long way to go and that wasteland will always be part of you but...glad you found that corn.

HxWx said...

<3

Your blogs about depression have eloquently put how I felt for a long time. They sum up everything I've felt while battle through my depression in ways I could never do. Trying to explain depression to someone is like trying to teach a pig to scuba dive--it just doesn't work.

I think I'm finally on the upswing of things in my own life, and I hope you can do the same. It's not fun to be lost in a fog of apathy, and not caring what happens from one day to the next.

One thing that's helping me realize life isn't just a fog is roller derby. Being a part of something makes me feel something. Maybe you can find a something too--you are not a nothing, and I wish you the best of everything.

Thank you, for helping me put my feelings (or lack there of) into words. <3 <3 <3

Jess said...

Like many of your readers who have dealt with various forms of depression, I can relate to this. I also love that you put yourself in a hoodie throughout most of it.

Maybe having the corn bronzed and mounted into a trophy of sorts would be a way to preserve it? Provide a reminder on a mantal that unexplained laughter can erupt from unexpected places...

Welcome back, you've been missed (and plagiarized) in your absence.

Anonymous said...

This made me laugh and cry because what you write is so real and truthful. It reminds me of my own life, having an unspecified mood disorder, never having answers but always being told to "be positive" and smile.. what touched me particularly was the images of talking to others in times where you have to think really hard to force your face to make a generic expression e.g. be sad. I'm astonished at how well you were able to explain something that is so bloody indescribable.

Thanks again for posting, it reminds me that I'm not alone in my undiagnosed battle...

Stacy said...

Interesting that this is my first comment although I've been following you ever since I read your spider post....
Through the laughter some tears formed because I know exactly what you went through. You explained it so wonderfully! I always thought, if I could get through this, anybody can, and it sounds like you're well on your way.
Take care and welcome back!!

Anonymous said...

Thank you for having the bravery to share this. This means something. I hope the road continues upwards for you

Annie said...

Your descriptions are DEAD ON. I know how it feels to have positivity sprayed at you rapid fire from people who have no idea what depression is like - so I'm not going to do that to you. I'm fighting the same battle right now and have been keeping it to myself to avoid the same bullshit. Thank you for reminding me that I am not alone. I hope they publish this fucking brilliant post in a psych magazine or something. They should also maybe distribute it to family members of people struggling with this crap.

I heart you.

Julie Marsh said...

"That solution is for a different problem than the one I have."

Best synopsis ever. Thank you, and be well.

Dan Byer said...

I want to write something perfect so you'll know exactly how much I appreciate you, but I can't think of anything. Sorry.

Unknown said...

I love your corn. I love your fish. I love your words and I love that you shared them. I have no idea who you are, but I love you for your bravery and making sense out of this for me and so many others who can't put it into words. I am not the corn-seeker, but rather the fish-feeder. I will stop trying to feed the fish now. Maybe sharing this with my loved one who needs the corn is enough? I'll try. Thank you times a gazillion.

Steph said...

I am SO glad you're back, articulating things I've never really been able to articulate. My crazy laughing moment came after knocking over a jar of pickles. I don't get it either. Thanks for posting, always.

neeuqdrazil said...

I'm really glad you're back, Allie, and... proud isn't the right word, maybe inspired?... anyway, WHATEVER FEELING THAT DOESN'T HAVE A WORD of/by you for being strong enough to write this.

Depression is an ugly, ugly beast that can suck everything out of life.

But you're right - sometimes, everything isn't hopeless bullshit. Or maybe even not bullshit at all. And some days, that's the best that you can do.

And that's OK.

Pieces of Cotton said...

Yeah, you nailed it.

Ro said...

The corn made me laugh. Honestly. Because it's ridiculous, in the best, most honest way. A shriveled niblet of corn, orphan of the universe, under your fridge. You are not alone, Allie. You have corn. That might just become my new personal motto. I'm not alone; I have corn.

Anonymous said...

Glad you're back Allie!! Perfectly illustrated as usual and hope you keep well, I look forward to reading more

Anonymous said...

You are brilliant. Thank you for sharing. Yay shriveled piece of corn!

Lavinette said...

Welcome back! I've really missed your blog and it feels so good to have you back even though you don't feel so good yourself.

I have not been depressed myself but I've seen it and this was super accurate description of what I've seen. I hope this was the first and last time I lauhged to something concerning suicide but that's what your words do to me, no matter what.

You gave me the proof that depression isn't the end. I'll need that whith my friend who still haven't found her corn.

I hope you find more corns and eventually find the rest of your missing emotions :)

Amara said...

I would try and sit on the floor and look under the furniture, if only I could find my floor. I think it might be under all that junk and papers and dust and clothes and stuff, because I vaguely remember it being there before, plus that's what usually floors do, being under stuff.

It looks like between me and a possible breakthrough for my depression there's a broom and a mop. My lifelong sworn enemies.

The mop is mopey and I think it won't put up much of a fight, but the broom is another matter.

Joohlia said...

This is by far the best description of depression I've ever read. I've struggled with mental illness my whole life, and it's so refreshing to hear someone talk about it like it actually is! I hope your brain juices stop being such jerks and let you feel good things again soon!

Tena said...

I just want to hug you. And cry. Because I've been there and I know exactly what you mean about the stupid piece of corn. Welcome back.

Anonymous said...

I completely understand everything you said. Hugs. So glad you are back. I really missed your posts and I am just so very glad you're back.

Mark Tomczak said...

I need to go give a lot of hugs.

Or not give any hugs.

Or maybe just sit around and be the possibility of hugs, to be called upon if desired but not, like, some kind of hug billboard.

Yeah, I don't know what I'm for yet.

But thank you for sharing this, because it means a lot to me and a lot of other people.

t. said...

I love corn.

TibX said...

Burst out with laughter at the poor corn; happenings to its location are pointless - but beyond reasons so. The logic that is applied truly defines some of the few things I can "find" funny anymore - to other people I just appear mad(unless wield wit ).


Excellent post!
Thank you for sharing!!!!!!!!!

Zaphod said...

This... this is so real. So raw. So true.

Thank you for this.

I've been through the same, and its incredible how simply and effectively you managed to communicate it all.

This, this is important. People need> to read this. This could help people.

Mitosis Glass said...

Yes! You have nailed this entire experience directly on its nasty, hopeless little head. I've been down this exact road and know how you feel, right down to that ridiculous piece of corn (although it wasn't corn for me, but I still get it).

You just hang in there, keep putting one foot in front of the other and breathing in and out. Your perception of life will change but it will become bearable again.

Don't fudge on your meds, either. I kept going on and off meds because I was too lazy to go get more, which just caused all kinds of ick in the long run. Stay on them. And welcome back. <3

Unknown said...

Holy fuck.

You just described about four years of my life. This is... this needs to be in psych textbooks and linked to everywhere. And...

Yeah.

I have been there. And I'm not there any more. And I'd forgotten about it. And you pretty much nailed it 100%. That was an intense read. Also I laughed my balls off several times. Well done.

Anonymous said...

You're an amazing, brave person for sharing your story!!! I have been to the wasteland and came out the other side, I hope you can find your way out too. I'm so glad you made the decision to tough it out, It is the path less traveled these days, but I know I have never regretted making the effort to keep on. Good luck to you and lots of love!!

Evelyn Stice said...

I'm sorry you went through this. I'm glad you're still here and that it's starting to get better. I hope it continues to get better.

You might not see this, what with the bajillion (well-deserved) comments, but after watching so many people around me suffer from major depression (including the want-to-die-but-don't-actually-plan-to-do-it thing), and dealing with dysthymia myself, I have to try to help when I think I can.

So, this is a book that I read and have recommended to a lot of people, and it's been really helpful: http://www.amazon.com/Undoing-Depression-Therapy-Doesnt-Medication/dp/0316043419/. The author is a therapist who suffers from depression himself (and doubts—rightly so, I think—whether anyone who hasn't can really understand it to effectively treat it). There's also a lot of research (but the boring crap is all at the end where you can ignore it if you want).

WARNING: He does tell you it can get better, and he tries to guide you through it, but he's not relentlessly, annoyingly cheerful about it. Or naggy. At all.

I hope you and everyone else who needs it sees this and that it helps in some way.

sandmoran said...

I just found your blog for the first time, thanks to JDATE.
I think I will get dressed now and go outside. It looks like a pretty day out there. The birds are singing and all. Maybe my dog wants to go for a walk. It's been awhile.
Thanks

Anonymous said...

I have never had anyone else be able to put into words the crappy-no hope- don't want to be around anyone feelings like you have. Dealing w/ mental illness for almost my entire life it's so very nice to know someone else has the same thoughts about this. I pray for lots of vitamin D and b12 for you and strawberries perhaps. Much love to you and continued uphilledness.

Anonymous said...

I totally get the corn.

Jeff Smith said...

That was pretty good, but it got really corny at the end.

Questionable Meat said...

Perhaps you found a kernel of truth. One of the thousands of Golden nuggets of wisdom from the mystical ear of corn. Cheers. Glad you are still on the ride.

Anonymous said...

i just want you to know that your not alone, i have been struggling with depression for the last year (maybe more)and im thankful that you could put it into words that are REAL.

Unknown said...

Maybe the Dementor living in your fridge got scared by the corn, and left.

Sammy said...

I cried with laughter (actually screamed with laughter, and had to wait until I could wipe away enough tears to see before I could read the next part, at which point I screamed and cried some more) at the fish. And the evolution. And the corn. Most of all the corn! I couldn't breathe and my clothes were actually wet with tears from laughing so hard. And then the next sentence, where you talked about hope... Then I cried for real. You got me right in the feels. I'm so glad you're not dead. This was/you are amazing.

Karen said...

This is so comforting and the most accurate representation of things I have felt. Thank you.

Anonymous said...

Thank you. I'm looking for my piece of corn

Anonymous said...

YOU ARE AMAZING!

Betsy said...

Thank you for this, Allie. I have never dealt with depression, but I have a good friend who has. I never knew what to do for her. This has helped me learn to better deal with her. Oddly enough, I'm eating corn right now for lunch.

Teacher in Transit said...

Keep writing. Even like this, we love it, we love you.

Stay.

Anonymous said...

My friend said something crazy to me the other day. Allie Brosh is so truly loved... by the internet... the internet is really big, bigger than an Alot of things! Never forget that Aliie!

Anonymous said...

I swear, doctors should have this story in their offices so that they properly understand depression. Its the most excellent explanation of it that's ever existed. Good work Allie!! X

Murphy said...

Thank you for this. It's good to know that there are other people who have gone through this. I'm happy you're back.

samdu said...

you have absolutely and succinctly captured my life. i have struggled with depression for years and currently, while waiting for open heart surgery, have had trouble explaining to people that i'm not terrified or... i'm nothing. i'm waiting. i'm hoping after the surgery it will be better. in the mean time, i'm going to go look under my fridge and hope i find the piece of corn. thank you for writing this.

Deb said...

You are my flavor of crazy.
Thank you for reintroducing me to laughter.
And to corn.
Yay corn!

And YAY you!

Anonymous said...

Allie, You made me cry. I have been there, but could never have described it so brilliantly. So glad you are back!

Candice said...

Corn is the funniest of all the legume-y things.

Welcome back, you're awesome!

-js said...

I think you are a beautiful person, depressed or not.

Anonymous said...

Welcome back! I'm sorry your fish have been dead, but I still like you.

Bailey said...

This is so perfect it made me cry. Wow. I hope people read this and come away with a better understanding of depression. I've been trying to explain how I feel for years, and you've done it so well here. Thank you.

50Peach said...

The dead fish - NAILED IT. From someone who has lived this, but is nowhere near as capable or humorous as you in expressing it... thank you. Welcome back. We missed you.

jess m said...

Simply too perfect, too exact, almost a mirror of how I felt for a long time, right down to the dog that loves you and you can't love it back. Although I do have to say I can absolutely see why a piece of corn on the floor alone is funny. Just saying it right now I can picture it striking me as funny. Niblet corn in general is a funny vegetable.

Scarlett said...

Keep walking. Damn you are brave.

Skiriki said...

Hi, Allie! I know what exactly you mean with all this, since I've been there myself, and occasionally drop to the same nothingness-hole as well.

I also think that the bit about corn is hilarious! Damn, some people -- why can't they see the funny in it? Because it is funny! Ah well, their loss.

Thanks for a thoughtful post (so going to link it to other people to show what exactly goes on in my brain as well when depressive mood hits), plus a good laugh.

Corn... hee hee hee. :D *wipes a tear of laughter*

Sophia said...

HOORAY!

MCMcAnnally said...

The corn moment had me laughing out loud.

Then I felt weird about laughing.

Then, I realized you predicted exactly this scenario. Are you a Jedi? Are you Carrie from the movie, "Carrie?"

Either way, this is brave. Brave and non-bullshitty. These have always been our favorite things about you.

So much love to you.

JD said...

This is EXACTLY what depression is like. Thank you so much for illustrating this--I feel that sharing this with others will make them understand what the disease is all about. I went with talk therapy lieu of pills (the side effects would have compounded my problems), and I'm better now. I'm glad you got better in a way that worked for you.

Anonymous said...

This perfectly describes the months after my dad died. Especially the insane apathy. I would actually stop talking in the middle of my own story because I seriously didn't give a shit. Finishing the story was not worth it to me.

I really respect your battle and I am so glad you are writing again :)

La la said...

You draw dead fish good.

Mellro said...

I once had someone tell me that "depression is stupid, you should just find something you like and get it over it."

I stared at them in silence until they got uncomfortable and walked away.

Thank you for putting into words what most people can never even comprehend. You're amazing.

Unknown said...

So happy that you felt comfortable enough to post this! Your toy analogy is brilliant, everyone can relate to the feelings of UN-fulfillment they have when they can no longer relate to their toys! love your posts and you, thanks for sharing!

Jenny said...

thank you Allie.
I've missed you.
your work is wonderful. and so are you, if i may say so. thank you.

Anonymous said...

I laughed out loud at the picture of you in the coffee shop. I don't think that's weird. Glad you're back.

Kimberly said...

This is amazing. I've actually been thinking about you lately and wondering how you were doing out there, and hoping you were getting better. I hope things keep getting better for you, and thanks for sharing this.

Renee said...

I'm so glad for the people who kept having their feelings at you. I'm having feelings at you right now. <3

Anonymous said...

I missed your posts and wild realism. And this is alarmingly relevant. I'm glad you are back. And laughing at corn that was as lonely and shriveled as you felt your soul was.

John Rose said...

I'm so so sorry you had to deal with all this depression crap.

I am not sure that anybody in the history of the world has ever explained it as well as you.

I hope that things get to where you want them to be!

Sarah said...

That dead fish metaphor was perfect.

Depression is a bitch and I'm so glad you're back. You take as long as you need with those bullshit feelings of yours. I'm still at that point with my feelings.

Anonymous said...

This fish metaphor is a thing which needs to be shared every time someone wonders why platitudes which seem to be made to ignore/gloss over feelings (or lack thereof) just aren't very useful in going up against depression.

I appreciate how honest you are. I've suffered many bouts of depression since childhood and I've sometimes felt like no one in my life really gets it. You might be a stranger on the internet but it's nice to find someone who's had a similar experience.

I hope you keep building yourself up and find something that isn't bullshit soon. :)

Anonymous said...

So glad you're back...it's reassuring to read things I've thought and felt before, and I expect it is for others too.

I do relate to this so much on a lot of levels. the whole thinking about being dead and wishing people didn't love me so it would be easier to opt out.

I don't think I actually *would* kill myself (feh, effort) but I've reassured myself that I *could* do it, if I needed to, while my boyfriend is at work on his night shift.

Then I'd feel bad for thinking that, because of how bad he'd feel when he'd get home and find me :/

I don't know what's going on in your life, but just speaking for myself it's for NO REASON in particular. Things are FINE. And the random crying? Yah. Not so much anymore, but yah. I think realising you're crying about nothing in particular makes you cry even more >.< like "gah, I'm crying for NO REASON, I'm SUCH A MESS"

I guess it's hormones or brain chemistry or something? It's all I can think of when there is actually no reason.

"maybe everything isn't hopeless bullshit" sounds about as optimistic as I'd stretch to :)

P.S

I think I might've been able to summon up a fuck for "everything is spiders" :(

vixy said...

I missed you!

Rebecca Diane said...

I know that piece of corn, oh yes. Coming out of depression or learning to live with depression isn't this steady upwards line of "now things are better - and now things are better than THAT - and now I'M better!" like some people seem to think it is. It's more like (or at least was for me) walking through really thick fog, and then suddenly the fog is much thinner and you can see the trees and stuff and it's nice, but then you walk into a thicker patch of fog again and bump into things for a while, and then you walk into another thinner patch, this time even thinner than before - nay, even almost clear! And it's really really nice. But you keep walking and eventually it's all thick fog again, and sometimes you get tired of walking so you just sit down in the thick fog for a while. But eventually you start walking again and find another clearer patch. And over time you pass into clear patches and into foggy patches, and the main thing that changes is that A. you get better at keeping on walking instead of taking breaks, and B. you get better at remembering that there are in fact clear patches, and those are pretty awesome, so it's easier to keep walking through the foggy parts. But for a lot of people, maybe even most people, the fog never goes away entirely. You just learn to work around it when you can and, when you can't work around it, just keep walking. And sometimes you do sit back down for a while because walking gets really tiring. But eventually you get back up again. Or something. It's not the most hopeful of metaphors, but I think it's true. And the bottom line is that I still like you and still think you're tops whether you're in a clear patch or sitting down in the fog wondering why there are spiders on your feet. <3

Unknown said...

This is the best description of depression I've ever seen. I've never been truly depressed, so I thought it was just being very sad, I had no idea it was actually a total absence of any feeling at all. Thank you for this educational post, I will definitely keep it in mind in the future, so I won't be a total a**hole without realizing, to someone who is depressed.

Anonymous said...

Thank you for explaining what so many people are feeling.

I'm glad you could grab a kernel of something in the end. I love you.

*hugs*

Catherine said...

I've been reading this blog (and laughing until I cried) for years now, but I've never commented before. First of all, I wish you so much strength and tenacity in continuing to crawl across the wasteland. I hope there are palm trees just beyond the next dune.

I don't know you and I can't really speak to your experience except in the abstract - but what prompted me to comment today is the clarity and honesty of your writing. While you wade through a mire of emotions and non-emotions, you're still able to distill moments and sentiments down into essential kernels (of corn?!) that create a compelling, insightful narrative.

Your ability to share this much of yourself and be this honest and vulnerable is rare and beautiful. Nothing but respect and admiration from over here.

Richelle said...

Crying because I've felt this too and laughing because you are seriously the best at describing and making things awesome, whether it's Kenny Loggins or depression. So so so very happy you're back to the online world! We have all sorely missed you! Life is a hard wasteland to navigate, but at some point it becomes a wasteland of AWESOME. Glad you're finding your feels.

Anonymous said...

I'm so happy you're back and I want to thank you for sharing your story with us. While I can't say I've ever experienced what you're going through, my big brother did, and I can tell you that from what I've observed, getting back to normal sucks, but it is worth it in the end. Welcome back!!

Shawn said...

Thank you for this! Having been where you've been I read this whole thing going - YES! that! that's how it felt! I never quite got it right, but you managed to explain it nearly perfectly!

I'm better now too. There are still days when I'm sad for 'no-good-reason'. And I find myself trying to make-up a reason. "My dog has a black nose, why does my dog have to have a black nose? It isn't fair!" But most days are a pretty even balance between all the feelings - and I'm good with that.

But thank you thank you thank you for putting something into words (and pictures) that I've never been able to.

Ryan said...

This is a great post. Honestly, reading your blog has made me think that being a writer is a lot more possible than I think it is. I know that going through something like this is kind of a one step forward, two steps back kind of thing but I hope you know that you're doing a really good job. Everything you're doing is hard and-- even though sometimes it's difficult for people who want the best for you to see that-- it takes a lot of strength to get through all the parts of this.

Paul M said...

Hey, great to hear that you're at least feeling again. I've been in the same place as you, maybe not as severely but there was a long time were I didn't... feel many things, there was no gradient that existed, only anger to hatred to 'not giving a fuck' It kinda impacted my life in a crazy way too, I became a much better person in my own eyes, and less of a pushover in everyone elses eyes. The turning point for me was a courage wolf meme, it made me realise a lot of stuff about my suicidal thoughts and for some reason triggered a two day introspective rant that sorted my shit out straight and made me feel... like a person again I guess, instead of just some random person taking up space and adding nothing meaningful to anyone's life.

Now I live for laughter, as weird as that sounds to most people, I laugh at everything and everyone, including myself most of the time. Life without laughter isn't worth it to me, it's the one thing I know I will always be able to feel.

No hopes this ever gets read, but if it does and it helps you, i'm glad :).

http://couragewolfmeme.com/courage-wolf-269

Unknown said...

When you didn't post, I feared the worst (in this case, suicide). I am SO GLAD that you are alive! And you described things so well that I feel a little more normal for being depressed for 2 years straight myself.

Catkins said...

This is the BEST description of the journey I've ever heard. Thank you for putting into words (and pictures) exactly what I have felt.

Unknown said...

Awesome.

Glad you're back. But if you go back down that hole - and I'm sorry to say, many of us are repeat visitors - keep working to get back out.

Thanks for sharing!

Stacy said...

I found and fell in love with your blog in the summer of 2009. It really helped me through a tough time. I have missed your posts these past several months and am so glad things are finally starting to look up for you. I wish there was some way I could repay you for the "help" you've given me. Please know that I am cosmically pulling for you.

Barbara said...

Wow, I'm not the only one.

Now you have created my new mantra. Maybe everything isn't hopeless bullshit.

You rule.
ALOT.

(I know, it's a lot.)

CaptainAl said...

I don't want to say that hearing about your pain makes me happy, because that isn't the word for it. It's comforting though to see that my problems are not mine alone. Depression can be so lonely. Logically, you know you're not the only one to go through it, but when you're in "The Depths" it can be hard to believe there's anyone else out there, let alone someone else who knows what it feels like. Thanks for sharing this.

Ecrossfield said...

Horray for cloorn!!!Glad to see you back and thanks for sharing such a raw moment with us all... MISSED YOU!!

anh said...

Thank you for opening up, sharing this and explaining what depression feels like. Many (including me) have felt the same frustrations you did and continue to struggle. I have no doubt your story will help others. Thank you.

lisadom Grace App said...

My sister died "suddenly' last year leaving behind a train wreck of sadness, shock and anger along with an inability to understand how the fuck she got to the point where she felt it was a viable option.
This post helps.

Anonymous said...

Wow. Awesome. This IS On Point. Glad You're Back.

Anonymous said...

And now I'm crying.

Anonymous said...

Thank you so much for being honest and true and YOURSELF in this post. No glossing over the details of how much depression fucking sucks.

So glad you're back :)

Anonymous said...

1) I am so glad you are back, and hope the best for you.

2) Your post touched on exactly how I am feeling now. The "I want to die, but am not suicidal" part.

I have an appointment next week with a therapist and will bring it up. But thank you for touching on this... it validates that it isn't just me who ever feels this way.

Unknown said...

I hope I can find my piece of corn soon.
I'm at the doctor stage for my depression.
It's rough.
But this post sure as hell made me feel better

Unknown said...

So glad you're back, I was worried about you. I've been there before.

Anonymous said...

So is it normal to cycle back and forth between feeling nothing and feeling sadness? Occasionally there are the random good bits too but I mostly seem to cycle between those two...

Sazza said...

Firstly, thanks for sharing so COMPLETELY HONESTLY about this. I have seen people share about depression and all too often give the impression that it's a choice (therefore implying if you are depressed you should feel guilty)... I think that's a load of bollox.

Your pictures and your words make it simple and pure and not hard to take for those who would be scared by the prospect, without you having to lie about anything to "spare" their feelings.

I know the annoying things that people do, when they have feelings about your feelings, one friend of mine burst into tears when I told her how I was (not) feeling, and it made me immediately not want to tell her anymore. That made me lonelier than ever. It's like people are saying they think you're not strong enough, when they try to change the way you are feeling.

But if it helps, they usually don't actually mean that. Hell, I've even been guilty of it myself, as well as being on the receiving end, so I know...

The thing that helped me the first time I had a big depressive bout, was as I knelt on the floor deciding how I was going to die that day, I suddenly realised that certain people would be left in pain if I succeeded in my plans, and I knew what that pain was like, as someone I cared for had taken his own life years before. Believe me, the grief was terrible. So I decided I didn't want to do that to anyone, and that if the choice of dying wasn't an option anymore, I'd better just try living a different way, which was just getting more support. I wasn't happy to do that, but doing that eventually awakened me to my feelings again and then I became happy by accident because at some point or another I was inevitably going to bump into the happiness-pixie that lives inside my head along with the weep-monster, the rage-crocodile, and the everybody-just-eff-off-and-die-now troll.

The second time, I had had a nervous breakdown at the same time as having developed a nasty illness that lasted 2 months, and was having nightmares, being sick all the time, my hair was falling out, I was EXTREMELY angry, and I decided that even if I didn't kill myself, the illness would kill me eventually anyway (and I thought probably quite soon as I was so sick and becoming emaciated), so I'd just try to accept stuff even if it was bad as I didn't have much time left to enjoy it in. Again I accidentally became happy somewhere along the line...

The next time, both my parents had just died and again, I still didn't "believe" in suicide, but wanted to wake up dead, and soon. Then I realised again, that I was only young, and that there'd be a lot more pain in my life if i just waited around until I was likely to die, but there'd also be some good stuff, so even though I didn't feel good right then, I thought I'd wait around for it and eventually became accidentally happy again.

My advice - I'm not sure if it helps you at ALL, but hey, it's worth a punt, and if you don't like it, you can throw some of your corn at it - is 1) as annoying as other people's feelings are, they're usually an indication of their love for you, so it's good to at least lift your sense of self worth, if not make you want to poke their eyes out; 2) that if you just give these things enough time, without even trying, your feelings usually end up changing on their own. Even if they're not there, they really are if you know what I mean, they're just buried, and eventually they'll resurface. Sometimes you will want to murder every hopeful so-and-so who even flutters an eyelash vaguely in your direction, other times you'll be quite happy for their happy, and then for your own too; and 3) as much badness that pervades your brain at some points, is an equal amount of happiness at other points. That may be tomorrow, or in a few months, but just being where you are right now, is like, totally popcorn.

Anonymous said...

You are the corn. 0_0

Anonymous said...

this is everything I haven't been able to put into words. thank you. so glad you're writing again.

Anonymous said...

This is the best explanation of depression I've ever seen. Thank you for posting this, and I really love your work.

Kayla said...

Someone really close to me once told me, "Life is comprised of 3 things -- progression, regression, and maintenance."

I truly hope you find yourself in a long stretch of progress, and I'm glad you are living.

C. said...

Thank you! This is how I feel and no one understands.

Debt blag said...

Oh this is incredible! Overjoyed that you're back :)

Julie said...

Thank you for writing this. I predict this will do more to help people understand depression than most of what's out there on the subject.

Lauren Elyse said...

This. A million times this.
Depression isn't sadness, it's nothingness. And deciding not to die is a totally hard and painful decision. And there's that hatred of everyone and everything for having feelings. And the insane laughter when Happy is finally found again? THIS.
I hope the bullshit continues to be weird and annoying and so on but keeps from becoming hopeless again.

Anonymous said...

As many others have said, thank you for sharing this with us. We have missed you. I'm sorry you're going through this.

Whenever I'm feeling down, I read your posts. It never fails that Dogs Don't Understand Basic Concepts, Like Moving, The God of Cake, and (let's face it, I'm going to read all three - and probably be in tears from laughing so hard) The Year Kenny Loggins Ruined Christmas will have cheered me up considerably. I too have a helper dog and a (actually two) simple dog. I picture them when reading your posts sometimes; or imagine your posts when I'm trying to get the simple dogs to do basic things like siiiit.

I thought the corn was funny and am glad it was under your fridge.

Poliwhirl said...

I couldn't believe you were back! I scrolled down and down and down, looking for the date.

You'd love the fluff balls around my house. They kind of move here and there like pets really.

Rebecca Swartz said...

Brilliant post, Allie. Thank you for sharing, and I'm so glad you are finding your way back. Please take care of yourself.

Invictus Prevail Animus said...

ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!

I became a fan of yours when someone introduced me to your blog last February. I read everything I could find of yours because it's so GOOD! I actually used a repost of your drawing of "OverlyDramatic Simple Dog" flopping across the floor after your move to help me explain my own depression to other people. Your comics made me laugh when nothing else could-- for me, you ARE my funny little piece of corn under the refrigerator. I definitely get what you mean by that. <3

I told myself that I would tell you how amazing you are if I ever got the chance-- and that I've gone through similar feelings too. You're not alone in having dead fish. I think everyone's fish are at least a little bit dead. Mine were about ready for zombiefication.

I want to sort of (but not really) apologize for throwing emotions at you out of Still-Care-About-Shiitake Land, but I am so excited and Full of Joy to see you posting again that I can't possibly apologize for it. I love you!

Landstander said...

This is an amazing piece of writing. Good on you for turning "The Nothing" into something so informative for anyone who hasn't experienced depression.

Amanda Good said...

I just wanted to confirm for you that I did indeed laugh during the weird, uncomfortable parts, because I've been there, and it was really spot-on.

Mrs D said...

I wish I had understood this before. I'm going to share it with my husband, maybe he'll start to get it on my behalf.

Thank you, it's beautiful.

Anonymous said...

Who cares why the corn did what it did as long as it did... I like your corn...

Inky said...

HUG

Anonymous said...

I've missed you something terrible. I'm going through tough times now and your post seemed to read my mind. Thank you.

TheSeize said...

Few people ever realize that the best thing they can do is just try not to judge someone harshly or abandon them. When you tell someone about something like this, their first instinct is to 'help' by 'giving advice'. Little do they understand that advice isn't what you're asking for or helpful in most cases.

People really, really think they're going to magically solve those dead fish all the sudden.

Asking for help from doctors and people around you and posting this had to have been really hard, and I have so much respect for that.

As you can probably tell from the comments by now, we're all really proud of you. Though none of us can understand exactly how you feel, I think you've made all of us understand even just a tiny bit. Though your experience is unique, it is also similar to what a lot of people go through. For those who go through it, you've helped them not be alone. For those who haven't, you've given them some understanding. That is a powerful and very important thing.

You deserve more and better than that corn. Until you find it, after you find it, during the search, even if you disappear for a long time, even if you never quite find it, even if you find it and then lose it in the couch cushions, we'll still be here.

Sorry about how dead your fish are. Wow, those are super dead. I still like you, though. :)

Unknown said...

I've had low-level depression for the last 15 years without even realizing it, and last year things got really bad and I felt suicidal. I can't claim that this is exactly what it was like for me because everyone's experiences with depression is unique to them, but I saw a lot of similarities, especially about how to tell people you're thinking about killing yourself. Thank you for your honesty :)

Shawn said...

I kept watching your blog, worrying, wondering what happened to you. I admit that the first thing I thought when I saw my reader light up with new posts was "oh no, I hope this isn't an announcement of the worst news possible".

Because, for what it's worth, and what little I know of you (since all I know of you is what I've read here) I like you and I wish you nothing but good.

So I'm glad to see you're making progress, and that you're finding floorn, and I hope you keep finding more of it.

Rachel said...

Well, you described my bouts of depression far, far better than I've ever been able to. I actually remember telling my sister once that it wasn't so much that I wanted to kill myself, I just didn't want to be alive anymore. Thanks, Allie, for not not being alive anymore. And thanks for this post, which I will now think about (hopefully) when I'm depressed. Maybe your shriveled up bit of corn will be what snaps me out of it someday, too. Keep on keeping on, it will get better. *hugs*

Anonymous said...

So happy that you're back! I have at least 10 friends [that I know of] who regularly read your posts and all of us were freaking out with excitement when we heard you were back, we were worried about you, which seems weird because we don't actually know you, but through your posts we feel like we've gotten to know you and you are just such a funny, talented, amazing person. I've been dealing with depression for about five years and I'm so glad that you decided to tell people about what you went through instead of being shamed into hiding it away. If more people could be as brave as you, then maybe some of the stigma about depression and other issues like it will start to go away.

Annabelita said...

Hi Allie, you gave me so much insight into what people with depression go through. I thank you for this post. I wish I know what to say, but I think it'll just sound something like "well, let's find the fish that's not dead." So I just want to tell you that I sincerely and wholeheartedly hope you'll come out of this and see the light at the end of the tunnel. You're an amazing person with an immense talent.

Donna said...

Welcome back! Just remember "Depression Lies." The Bloggess informs of us that once in a while and when I'm down in the dumps I have to remind myself of this and it kind of helps the fog. Doesn't make it go away, just helps me realize it won't last forever. Sending good healing vibes your way.

Allie (different Allie) said...

This is so perfect and exact and right and I love it. And I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who occasionally lays down on the floor to sob for a while.

Anonymous said...

I just want you to know you're not alone. I've been bouncing between the want to stop existing and sort of numb mumbling through and fake happy-ing my way through life phases for months. I decided the "get really piss drunk" and try to explain someone you want to die, but when you pretend happy all the time they never seem to take you serious. Hopefully I get the the sort of hopeful picture at the end sooner than later. Keep on finding that everything isn't bullshit. I hope you feel better, or just feel someday soon.

Anonymous said...

I could see corn being funny. For me it was punching a barn and breaking the shit out of my hand. Feeling something is so much more not bullshit land than feeling nothing at all. Glad you're posting, keep your corn!

A box said...

Too real. Now I'm all awkward for crying but laughing at work. At least my cubicle is out of the way so nobody has to look at my weird sadness.

Danielle said...

Today is my birthday and this was just what I needed! Thank you. Glad you are back and relatively well.

Sara said...

Thank you for the honest post. I'm glad things are going better for you and hope that you are able to get well and stay well. Life is complex, hard, and confusing - I cannot imagine facing that while experiencing depression. Hang in there.

Unknown said...

Yay for Allie, so happy you found the corn (haha you can make that a thing now) and I'm happy you're back!

Polly Chrome said...

I had this experience, but with chocolate cake. I did not want the cake. I don't even like cake very much, and I certainly did not want the cake while I was in the middle of crying. My life was completely meaningless and I understood absolutely nothing, certainly not why I was there, nor why everyone was around me, and my friends responded by giving me a piece of cake. Which they didn't even put on a plate but actually put in my hand. So I sat there on the ground in a circle of my friends, crying so hard that my tears had actually burned my face with the acidity, with a hand full of chocolate cake.

And I looked at that cake.

And I laughed.

Another Angela said...

Do you read all these comments? Can you possibly?

You emptied your emotional well. I've done it before too. You put so much of yourself out into the world that you had nothing left. It's an introvert thing. Extroverts suck energy from others, but introverts have to make their own.

Emotional wells are weird. The top 10% is what we feel. If we're careful, we can recharge it by doing things we love. Privately. All on our own. Never to be shared. <- This is important.

But if we give out the 10% without recharging, we start to feel less. We dig deeper, trying to meet expectations, pretending we still feel.

The bottom 90% empties fast because we can't feel it. We give it all out, and then we hit bottom. It slowly rebuilds over time, but it usually needs help after it gets that low (doctors, meds, shrinks). When it finally gets close to 90% full again, waves slosh up occasionally, and we feel all at once. And then it recedes again, and we're like "was that real?"

You don't owe us anything. Post when you can, but please don't empty your emotional well again in an effort to "make up for lost time" or reassure us. That last 10% is the MOST important. Give it time.

Holly said...

I'm glad to see you are back, and really wish you all the best! You have a wonderful gift for entertaining people, and I hope that is something positive in your life. I'm sorry it has to be because of your depression, and I really do hope for all the best for you. Please keep us updated, even if it's just short p[osts to say hello!

Dannicalliope said...

Allie... I thought the corn was funny.

Dee Rew said...

Allie:

I'm so glad you're back; I've wondered about you often.

Your post made me tear up only bc it's so freakin' accurate about how depression hits you and things change, etc. It's so very hard to explain it and you captured it brilliantly, as usual.

I'm going to pass this on to others who struggle to explain things to the 'shiny-happy's of the world and hope they better understand.

Sooooo good to see you back!! Oh, and your pain scale was a HUGE hit with my hospital coworkers.. hung it up in the staff lounge.

You're awesome.

Michelle said...

You are so fucking amazing! Thank you for posting this.

Marley said...

Yeah there's no chance of you seeing this comment but I'm going to post it anyway.

This made me cry, and I wish it was just because I feel for you and blah blah blah. I've been depressed for the past half of my life and it's become so fucking overwhelming that I was damn near killing myself a few days ago. Just wanted to ram my car into a tree or some stupid shit like that. And what kept me from doing it wasn't necessarily the people in my life and how it would affect them (although, yes, that is partially what keeps me going) but because of my cats. My fucking cats. Because all of a sudden, the only person in the world that matters to them would be gone and they would be alone and have to be with someone else. And I couldn't stand that. So I kept driving straight.

At my worst points the past year especially, I've come to your blog and looked at past posts because they were one of the very few things that made me laugh. Despite being on medication, despite being in therapy, I'm still numb and the only feeling I really know is "crying." I'm so over it.

I don't know why I'm telling you this, because I don't actually know you or any of the other people who have commented. I don't mean to be all "oh I know how u feel" and make this about me but god damn, I related to this post on so many levels and it hit me so fucking hard. I'm still crying now.

Depression is a motherfucker.

Annabelita said...

Oh, and I want to tell you that for some reason, I totally relate to your kernel of corn! It made me LOL, literally! :*)

Anonymous said...

Like everyone, I am so glad you're back. Best place on the internet: right here.

Anonymous said...

Glad you are back, thanks for sharing your story, and not tip toeing around how it truly feels. Stay strong, do whatever makes you feel better!

Kurbie Weppler said...

Thank you for sharing what so many of us go through without the words or pictures to explain "what" it is they are going through/feeling.
So glad you have posted again. As you can see, we all miss you.
Love, Barbie.

Anonymous said...

Laugh at all the corns! I hope you hang in there and your fish come back. Mine have never been quite as dead as yours but they swam sideways for a long time.

Anonymous said...

I remember laughing hysterically at a trivial pursuit box when I was coming out of depression.

Anonymous said...

I just roared with laughter at the "explaining feeling suicidal" section. I guess people that haven't been there just won't get it, but having rehearsed that conversation so many times in my head, this just rang so true and was hilarious. Love your stuff so much.

Uber Mom said...

Thank you for sharing! There are so many people who are going through the same thing you went through. They need to see that even "funny" people go through depression. Being able to put your experience into words, with illustrations, also helps those of us who have friends and family members who are depressed understand, to some extent what they might be going through. Thank you, thank you! You are not alone!

Jenn said...

I have been there. Hell, I'm there now, fighting it with a toothpick and and lighter, fuckers, I will beat them, not sure how yet but it's going to fucking happen, rawr.

That being said I loved the corn, and i totally get it. i have kitchen cried and found a twist tie and done the crazy crying laughing. Yay for you being back here.

Kick that depressions ass!

tao said...

I'm speechless, and crying a little. Such a beautiful, insightful post. Please come back to us, slowly and carefully.

Sharyn said...

You NAILED it.

This should be required reading for, well, EVERYBODY.

My piece of corn moment was finding CakeWrecks. A flood of pure, giddy, unadulterated joy after years of gray. (And Jen from CakeWrecks/Epbot pointed me toward your blog. Cool, huh?)

Thanks for sharing this. I'm so glad you're coming out the other side.

Anonymous said...

I hope you continue having feelings, no matter how weird they are. Welcome back.

Anonymous said...

Welcome back!!

Anonymous said...

Wishing that nothing relied on you so you could stop existing is something that has crossed my mind a thousand times. You really nailed it here. This is EXACTLY what depression is like. I've wondered how things were going for you. A lot of it is meaningless bullshit, but your blog is a dose of laughter that I missed. Like the funnies for my generation...

Anonymous said...

My piece of corn is "No, see, I don't necessarily want to KILL myself...I just want to become dead somehow." I laughed so hard, because I remember when that seemed like a comforting logic. My life is mostly spritely, alive rainbow fish these days, which is pretty cool. But I remember the dead fish.

Also, my theory on corn is absurdity. Absurdity is the most funny. One time I was on the phone with my mom talking about how a family member was in the hospital, and too many people we knew had death/illness happening. She asked me to hold on to take another call, and it was news that someone ELSE had died. And then we laughed so hard. Which is really inappropriate. But absurdity is the funniest.

Lindsey said...

I'm genuinely smiling for you. No faking here. Welcome back. We missed you.

Kat said...

Crying is totally an emotion! It's just that my eyes get leaky sometimes. Glad that the weird bullshit is standing out from the hopeless bullshit. Xoxo.

BrianC said...

Allie.
I deal with depression off and on, it goes up and down. I can relate to your corn via a squirrel. The squirrel wasn't depressed and stressed, because it didn't give a fuck about my problems. He just continued working at existing. So I didn't give a fuck about my problems (while still being responsible) and began at working at what I wanted.

Anonymous said...

I'm sorry your metaphorical fish died :(

I think my metaphorical fish are dying too.

The Miller Family said...

Thank you. There IS a difference between killing yourself and wanting to die. You have described life in depression perfectly. Maybe people who don't know will get it? I love that you had the balls on your chest to post this. It's my life too. It may all be bullshit, but it's worth it.

Anonymous said...

Wow, those are super dead.


I still like you, though.

Sarah said...

Please don't kill yourself. Of all the things that are hopeless bullshit- and a lot of 'em really, really are- the formulations of your mind are not some of those bullshitty things. It would be a pity if you decided to leave before more of them can be expressed.

Perhaps that is selfish to say, or not a kind well-wish like the other comments. I have been in the wasteland, and the wishing wellness doesn't do a goddamned thing. You have a gift. You express ideas in a way that is both uncommon and valuable. Like it or not (and probably, it's not) you connect with people. A day after you post a long-awaited blog, a thousand people comment and thousands more are reading. Please, please stick around. Soldier on, even when it's impossible to take another step. We need you.

Anonymous said...

I want to hug you, and laugh with you about the corn kernel and buy you some coffee at Neptune!

Murphy said...

Since everyone else is sharing their corn moment...
I didn't realize I was depressed. I thought there was something physically wrong with me that made me feel tired and worthless and like I was dead inside... Like a food allergy? So I gave up gluten for a week just to see. Taking control of something in my life made me realize there are things I want to accomplish and that I can take control and do them. I still struggle with being overwhelmed sometimes.
But again, it's nice to know I'm not alone, and thank you.

Unknown said...

Allie,
I'm so glad that things are slightly less awful than they were. It makes me very happy to know that things are at least not still headed down for you.
I'm really looking forward to your book, and I'll be pre-ordering soon.
Good luck on your continuing cor-laughter-journey.

Natti said...

The first thing I want to say Allie, is that I'm glad you're back, and I'm glad that things are starting to look at least a little bit brighter. I'm not going to say that things will get better, because I am not some omnipresent all-knowing being who can predict the future, and I cannot say definitively what will or will not happen. But I'm wishing you all the best for dealing with your depression. You give me hope that one day things will look up for me (I'm still in the "everything is bullshit" stage).
Once again, you have been able to brilliantly capture what someone with depression goes through with pictures and words, in a way that is understandable and slightly humorous. The dead fish metaphor is spot on, and I felt exactly the same when everyone said to me "Stay strong, it gets better". I felt like they were mocking me in some way, and then I would get even more annoyed at myself because I couldn't make things any better. But anyway, I hope things go well for you

shokkou said...

Oh my sweet hyperbole and a half! It's always a personal journey, into the darkness and (if you're lucky) back. We are all little shriveled corns under a fridge, somehow. But look! You've got LEGS motherfucker!

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