I didn't understand why it was fun for me, it just was.
But as I grew older, it became harder and harder to access that expansive imaginary space that made my toys fun. I remember looking at them and feeling sort of frustrated and confused that things weren't the same.
I played out all the same story lines that had been fun before, but the meaning had disappeared. Horse's Big Space Adventure transformed into holding a plastic horse in the air, hoping it would somehow be enjoyable for me. Prehistoric Crazy-Bus Death Ride was just smashing a toy bus full of dinosaurs into the wall while feeling sort of bored and unfulfilled. I could no longer connect to my toys in a way that allowed me to participate in the experience.
Depression feels almost exactly like that, except about everything.
At first, though, the invulnerability that accompanied the detachment was exhilarating. At least as exhilarating as something can be without involving real emotions.
The beginning of my depression had been nothing but feelings, so the emotional deadening that followed was a welcome relief. I had always wanted to not give a fuck about anything. I viewed feelings as a weakness — annoying obstacles on my quest for total power over myself. And I finally didn't have to feel them anymore.
But my experiences slowly flattened and blended together until it became obvious that there's a huge difference between not giving a fuck and not being able to give a fuck. Cognitively, you might know that different things are happening to you, but they don't feel very different.
Which leads to horrible, soul-decaying boredom.
I tried to get out more, but most fun activities just left me existentially confused or frustrated with my inability to enjoy them.
Months oozed by, and I gradually came to accept that maybe enjoyment was not a thing I got to feel anymore. I didn't want anyone to know, though. I was still sort of uncomfortable about how bored and detached I felt around other people, and I was still holding out hope that the whole thing would spontaneously work itself out. As long as I could manage to not alienate anyone, everything might be okay!
However, I could no longer rely on genuine emotion to generate facial expressions, and when you have to spend every social interaction consciously manipulating your face into shapes that are only approximately the right ones, alienating people is inevitable.
Everyone noticed.
It's weird for people who still have feelings to be around depressed people. They try to help you have feelings again so things can go back to normal, and it's frustrating for them when that doesn't happen. From their perspective, it seems like there has got to be some untapped source of happiness within you that you've simply lost track of, and if you could just see how beautiful things are...
At first, I'd try to explain that it's not really negativity or sadness anymore, it's more just this detached, meaningless fog where you can't feel anything about anything — even the things you love, even fun things — and you're horribly bored and lonely, but since you've lost your ability to connect with any of the things that would normally make you feel less bored and lonely, you're stuck in the boring, lonely, meaningless void without anything to distract you from how boring, lonely, and meaningless it is.
But people want to help. So they try harder to make you feel hopeful and positive about the situation. You explain it again, hoping they'll try a less hope-centric approach, but re-explaining your total inability to experience joy inevitably sounds kind of negative; like maybe you WANT to be depressed. The positivity starts coming out in a spray — a giant, desperate happiness sprinkler pointed directly at your face. And it keeps going like that until you're having this weird argument where you're trying to convince the person that you are far too hopeless for hope just so they'll give up on their optimism crusade and let you go back to feeling bored and lonely by yourself.
And that's the most frustrating thing about depression. It isn't always something you can fight back against with hope. It isn't even something — it's nothing. And you can't combat nothing. You can't fill it up. You can't cover it. It's just there, pulling the meaning out of everything. That being the case, all the hopeful, proactive solutions start to sound completely insane in contrast to the scope of the problem.
It would be like having a bunch of dead fish, but no one around you will acknowledge that the fish are dead. Instead, they offer to help you look for the fish or try to help you figure out why they disappeared.
The problem might not even have a solution. But you aren't necessarily looking for solutions. You're maybe just looking for someone to say "sorry about how dead your fish are" or "wow, those are super dead. I still like you, though."
I started spending more time alone.
Perhaps it was because I lacked the emotional depth necessary to panic, or maybe my predicament didn't feel dramatic enough to make me suspicious, but I somehow managed to convince myself that everything was still under my control right up until I noticed myself wishing that nothing loved me so I wouldn't feel obligated to keep existing.
It's a strange moment when you realize that you don't want to be alive anymore. If I had feelings, I'm sure I would have felt surprised. I have spent the vast majority of my life actively attempting to survive. Ever since my most distant single-celled ancestor squiggled into existence, there has been an unbroken chain of things that wanted to stick around.
Yet there I was, casually wishing that I could stop existing in the same way you'd want to leave an empty room or mute an unbearably repetitive noise.
That wasn't the worst part, though. The worst part was deciding to keep going.
When I say that deciding to not kill myself was the worst part, I should clarify that I don't mean it in a retrospective sense. From where I am now, it seems like a solid enough decision. But at the time, it felt like I had been dragging myself through the most miserable, endless wasteland, and — far in the distance — I had seen the promising glimmer of a slightly less miserable wasteland. And for just a moment, I thought maybe I'd be able to stop and rest. But as soon as I arrived at the border of the less miserable wasteland, I found out that I'd have to turn around and walk back the other way.
Soon afterward, I discovered that there's no tactful or comfortable way to inform other people that you might be suicidal. And there's definitely no way to ask for help casually.
I didn't want it to be a big deal. However, it's an alarming subject. Trying to be nonchalant about it just makes it weird for everyone.
I was also extremely ill-prepared for the position of comforting people. The things that seemed reassuring at the time weren't necessarily comforting for others.
The next few weeks were a haze of talking to relentlessly hopeful people about my feelings that didn't exist so I could be prescribed medication that might help me have them again.
And every direction was bullshit for a really long time, especially up. The absurdity of working so hard to continue doing something you don't like can be overwhelming. And the longer it takes to feel different, the more it starts to seem like everything might actually be hopeless bullshit.
My feelings did start to return eventually. But not all of them came back, and they didn't arrive symmetrically.
I had not been able to care for a very long time, and when I finally started being able to care about things again, I HATED them. But hatred is technically a feeling, and my brain latched onto it like a child learning a new word.
Hating everything made all the positivity and hope feel even more unpalatable. The syrupy, over-simplified optimism started to feel almost offensive.
Thankfully, I rediscovered crying just before I got sick of hating things. I call this emotion "crying" and not "sadness" because that's all it really was. Just crying for the sake of crying. My brain had partially learned how to be sad again, but it took the feeling out for a joy ride before it had learned how to use the brakes or steer.
At some point during this phase, I was crying on the kitchen floor for no reason. As was common practice during bouts of floor-crying, I was staring straight ahead at nothing in particular and feeling sort of weird about myself. Then, through the film of tears and nothingness, I spotted a tiny, shriveled piece of corn under the refrigerator.
I don't claim to know why this happened, but when I saw the piece of corn, something snapped. And then that thing twisted through a few permutations of logic that I don't understand, and produced the most confusing bout of uncontrollable, debilitating laughter that I have ever experienced.
I had absolutely no idea what was going on.
My brain had apparently been storing every unfelt scrap of happiness from the last nineteen months, and it had impulsively decided to unleash all of it at once in what would appear to be an act of vengeance.
That piece of corn is the funniest thing I have ever seen, and I cannot explain to anyone why it's funny. I don't even know why. If someone ever asks me "what was the exact moment where things started to feel slightly less shitty?" instead of telling a nice, heartwarming story about the support of the people who loved and believed in me, I'm going to have to tell them about the piece of corn. And then I'm going to have to try to explain that no, really, it was funny. Because, see, the way the corn was sitting on the floor... it was so alone... and it was just sitting there! And no matter how I explain it, I'll get the same, confused look. So maybe I'll try to show them the piece of corn - to see if they get it. They won't. Things will get even weirder.
Anyway, I wanted to end this on a hopeful, positive note, but, seeing as how my sense of hope and positivity is still shrouded in a thick layer of feeling like hope and positivity are bullshit, I'll just say this: Nobody can guarantee that it's going to be okay, but — and I don't know if this will be comforting to anyone else — the possibility exists that there's a piece of corn on a floor somewhere that will make you just as confused about why you are laughing as you have ever been about why you are depressed. And even if everything still seems like hopeless bullshit, maybe it's just pointless bullshit or weird bullshit or possibly not even bullshit.
I don't know.
But when you're concerned that the miserable, boring wasteland in front of you might stretch all the way into forever, not knowing feels strangely hope-like.
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«Oldest ‹Older 3401 – 3600 of 4972 Newer› Newest»Me too. Maybe we need to hook your lonely corn up with my lonely shriveled potato chip. Okay...it's actually mushed dog food...but the crunchy kind, not the canned kind. So...that's okay, right?!
I echo everyone else who said they're glad you're back. I'm also glad you didn't die. I often feel like printing out your posts on depression just so I can hand out copies to people who ask what's wrong and say "read this. then you'll get it."
And I think I understand why you laughed about that stupid shriveled piece of corn. It had been under the fridge for god know how long, and there it was, sitting there alone, on the floor, just like you were. Poor sad piece of corn that nobody got to eat because it rolled under the fridge. :( And then your brain went "the hell is a piece of corn doing underneath the fridge? i haven't bought corn in 5 years!" and since your brain can't cope with being confused and depressed at the same time, your brain basically exploded. And that's why you ended up laughing hysterically over a piece of corn.
I'm so, so sorry. I don't know why someone who has brought such happiness to so many has to suffer through this. It's tough for people like me, people who haven't been through this, to know what to do or say at a time like this. I want to offer assurances, or platitudes, or something. I want there to be some magical sentence I can piece together that can get through this confusing jumble of emotions, or lack thereof, you're going through. A sentence that lets you know all the wonderful things you mean to so many people.
Unfortunately, I just don't think there is such a magical fix. I don't know where you're at right now, but I gather you're still stuck in the middle of this ... thing.
All I can offer is this: You're not alone. You've never been alone this whole time, despite how you've felt. You may have imagined yourself walking through this unending wasteland by yourself, but behind you and beside you were all those you surround yourself with. Family, friends, nameless faces you write for online, all of us. We may not know the right way to approach you, we may not know how to phrase the words we want to speak, or we may just live in a delusion of thinking we can help you get out of the wasteland, but we're there.
And you know what? We'll never stop being there. I don't know how that makes you feel, but we're a bunch of jerks like that. So, sorry.
Allie, I'm so sorry your fish were dead. I still love you. I hope you are continuously finding new fish, which may or may not be the same as the fish you had.
<3
You're back!!!! Yay! I've missed your posts so much!!! This post was really amazing and I'm now cry-laughing because I'm still stuck somewhere in the middle of all of this. Maybe everything isn't hopeless bullshit, but it still seems like it is. I can feel emotion sometimes, but it's pretty rare and often forced. And now I feel like I'm rambling. Soooooo..... YAY NEW POST!!!!!! This was a kickass post and, as always, you're awesome. :D
Holy fuck, welcome back. I hope the needle on your speedometer keeps moving in the right direction.
more random pieces of corn on a floor.
yup.
Sorry about how dead your fish are.
Depression/boredom aren't necessarily bad things, unless they drive you to take your own life. You gain a lot by going through both situations. When I was maybe 16 or 17, I went through a year long depression. It wasn't fun, but it was beneficial to me.
Thank you for this.
Glad you are back. I am sorry your fish are dead. Depression is an asshole, i think he might actually kick puppies when he's not eating emotions and sucking down happy like a rainbow milkshake. I'd like to tell people it gets better, but i can't because everyone's relationship with depression is different. After 20 years, I'm still fighting my depression and he's still an asshole...just not so big.
I'm glad you're back, Allie. Been super worried about you. And...yeah, this? Exactly how I've felt most of my life, even when I've been on psych meds, even when I've been seeing a therapist.
Once again, you've put into words what so many cannot. It is so difficult to explain depression to someone who hasn't felt it. I am so glad you're feeling better. Keep up whatever treatment you're doing! Love always.
That was so great! I'm sorry all your people were non-understanding--when I was depressed, I had some of those people, but I was lucky enough to have a core support system that got it. I can't imagine how miserable it must have been to go through all that shit with everyone around you treating you like it's your own fault for not being happy! There is, unfortunately, a lot of that victim-blame in this culture, and your comic is a marvelous reply to that mentality, and a lovely encouragement for isolated-feeling victims of depression, of which there are many.
Not just a truthful post, and a well-expressed one (you have a gift for analogy!), but an important one. So brave of you to bare yourself like this--I think many people, myself included, are grateful!
Thank you for posting this! My younger sister struggles with depression, and this gives me a good idea about how to talk to her when it hits her.
I'm glad you found the corn, and I'm glad you were able to get the help you needed!
Welcome back! You and the alot monster have been missed, a lot. :)
I just laughed so hard a piece of corn flew out my nose. and you can only laugh in hysterics at the corn, if you get it.
as someone said; glad you found corn !
I laughed about the corn. I get it. And I'm sorry.
Sometimes the weirdest, most random shit ends up making the most sense. I've been there. Thanks for letting us know you're still out there- I'm beyond excited that you're back.
This comment is useless. I just wanted to tell you I'm so happy you're back!
I can't relate, won't pretend to, but I'm super glad you're back!
Thank you, I'm sure someone else in the 3000-something has mentioned this already: but I think I just found my piece of corn in this blog. Thank you!
I'm very sorry you felt that way. But I (and lots of other people) like you anyway.
You FRAME that motherfucking hilarious piece of corn, girl, and you keep it with you always. Well, not, like, in your POCKET or anything (unless you think that might help), but definitely on your wall or on your nightstand. Because I get it. I know what Everything Is Bullshit and Everything Is Nothing and All My Fish Are Dead feels like. I know what wanting to just quark out of existence feels like. And while I never had a piece of corn give that precise reaction, it's been other stupid, ludicrous things that don't make sense to anyone else.
I am happy that you're back, and I am thrilled to see that you're on the road to a better place. You're amazing. Thank you for posting.
I'm glad you wrote and posted this. I've gone through something similar a couple of times in my life, and it can be weird to think about later. The part about the dead fish was especially helpful because, even though my experiences should make me more understanding towards people dealing with depression, they don't. Possibly because I'd rather not spend any more time thinking about that part of my life. Hopefully this post will help me acknowledge when people's fish are dead, instead of trying to help them find them.
Fish analogy is terrifying, hilarious, and illuminating. Dang!
It was like you were living in my head the past few years. I'm not back 100% yet but I no longer want die anymore.
People don't get that part because it is past sad. You just don't see the point of going. I am still looking for my corn.
Hi Allie, I'm sorry your metaphoric fish have been so dead. That sucks.
I'm glad things have been sucking a bit less for you lately, things sucking is generally a bad thing unless it's a vacuum cleaner or straw or something.
I also really have a huge respect for you to be able to tell the internet about all this stuff.
I hope you can find your own fish-related resolution some time.
I cried like hell. I use the wording "this gives me so many feels" to differentiate from the beige. This is an incredible post.
What you do is beautiful and true. I hope you continue finding funny little pieces of corn or whatever else it is that you need.
Thank you for writing/drawing this :) xxx
Wow, those fish are super dead. I'm sorry. I still like you, though!
Loved hearing from you. Sending good thoughts.
While reading this, it has made me understand so much of why I have never been able to understand what several friends have gone through. I also randomly cried and laughed. Thank you for being awesome and writing this.
This is so fucking relatable, and I'm so glad everything might not be hopeless bullshit. I love you, Allie. We all do.
Keep fighting - you have such a talent to reach people on every level - keep looking for the corn!
Thank you so much for being you. And being honest about being you. And being brave enough to be honest about being you.
I have struggled with severe depression at times in my life, and I can say that your two posts about it collectively form the best description of it I have ever seen. No clinical explanation can reach people the way yours can (and has).
It doesn't all have to make sense. But that's exactly the point. The worst I ever got was when I took depression completely seriously and bought the lie that everything I was feeling (or not feeling) made sense. When I realized that very little did, I finally began to heal.
Praying for you and your continued healing.
I understand the corn. Oh gods how I understand that corn.
I've been there, and that emptiness is always still there waiting to fully come out again.
As someone that has felt and feels this way, I really hope things can get better for you even in the smallest bits from now on. It's a hard struggle living after everything is bullshit.
I understand. For me the moment that I asked for help was the night that I couldn't sleep because I couldn't stop thinking of ways to kill myself. You see, I didn't want to do it, but my brain was supplying me with plenty of ways that I could do it. It was quite possibly the most terrifying moment of my life and the very next day I went to my roommate and his fiancee and told them that I needed help.
Thank you for the fish metaphor as well, by the way. It is the best way that I've ever seen to describe what depression looks like.
Thank you for being you and for posting this.
Tears Allie. This caused me to well up at work because what you described, what you said,i've been through exactly that. Everything. From the 'not existing' thoughts to the sudden burst of laughter. When you read something that tells you 'you are not alone', it's the most precious thing in the world.
Thank you. Thank you for letting me know i'm not alone.
This was one of the most beautiful things I've ever read. Not in the "whoa yoga and sunrises!" beautiful way but in the way that this post makes sense. Thank you for this.
Soooo glad to see you moving again, and feeling less craptastic! Well said-- and may the good things wake up inside you again very soon.
It's like you went inside my brain and expressed all the stuff that I am not capable of saying. Thank you.
Welcome back Allie!! Thanks for coming back to us all; the internet needs you and your corn. This was brilliant! I almost started a slow clap but it wasn't going to get very far with me alone at my desk. I slow clapped in my head for you though :D
I am so glad you are back and even Cornier than before. I struggle with severe depression and I'm tired of people telling me that I like it. I hate it and would give anything to leave this place. I just don't have anything left to give in the fight. Thank you for sharing.
Wow, I'm just so so so grateful for that!! It's just that my girlfriend suffers from depression and it was very hard for me to understand how it actually feels like, what it is working like, what happens to you, what causes that. Because I too have some mental problems but these are actually about feeling TOO MUCH, things like panic or anger attacks, when you just lose your mind. That's why it was so hard for me to get what it's like to feel to be just this big nothing. I want to thank you for that so so much!! And also for giving me hope that if you got out of that - she eventually can too :). (because she's now exactly the way you were at your worst).
I didn't explode in laughter, but that piece of corn gave me a little giggle.
Thank it on my behalf, allie.
I'm so sorry your fish died, and that you wanted to be dead. But I am so very happy that you are still with us and love us enough to share your life with us. The world is a better place with you in it. Keep looking under large appliances, rocks, whatever it takes.
I've never been more happy to see someone posting again. That is all. Just unadulterated joy that you are here again...the room was very empty with you gone.
Allie you are the best. Even if you may not think so right now, or forget for a bit... we all know you are awesome & love you unconditionally.
This is the most brilliant post on the Internet. It is wonderfully, terrifyingly true, and so very well done.
I'm glad you found your kernel of corn. It's so good to see you posting.
I felt exactly like this for a solid week. It was weird though because I could come out of it but only after consuming large amounts of caffeine. It finally ended, though there were a few days I slipped in and out of it again. I'm glad you are feeling things again! :)
It is so great to have you back, Allie. As so many of the comments reflect, people can really relate to your story. The way you tell stories can make people laugh, so I really admire you for taking such difficult experiences and turning them into something that people can not only relate to, but that can possibly help them. Can't wait to hear more.
Well done! We all missed you.
Existential angst sucks, but you've got a gift for explaining the inexplicable (and helping others understand it). Thanks.
This is really the most accurate description of depression and the stages of depression that I've ever read--especially the way emotions start coming back to you.
Anyways, I've been a pretty long time reader of Hyperbole and a Half, and I'm glad you're posting again and I hope you can get some more happy emotions back into things too.
Once again, I want to make everyone I know read your post. Except it might scare them.
But thank you.
It's good to see someone making out of the wasteland. Maybe I'll find a piece of corn someday. If I could just put down all these dead fish.
We love you Allie! Welcome back!
I thought the corn bit was HILARIOUS. I wish you more corn in the future. :)
I just want to hug this post and you for making it because it encapsulates so much about my own dealings with depression past and present in ways I don't think I could've verbalized myself.
Your posts' honesty is ..empowering? That's kind of a stupid word for it, but it helps me feel like all my bouts with clinical depression aren't some stupid cry for help, or a phase, or feelings that I have misinterpreted or I am misinterpreting for something else. I finally have a job with health insurance and I'm going to see someone this time with their annoying optimism to assist in making things ...not be bullshit.
I'm kinda in the Corn Stage myself this time, laughing at things that don't make sense, while still not really feeling things but trying to nonetheless for others. Still, it's helping all the rest feel a bit less shit.
So happy you're back Allie!! And feeling better :)
Dear Person who made this comic-blog-type-thing,
I have read this blog post on depression, and the one before it. At the moment, I am at the place where I feel nothing, and my moment of happiness, where things look a little less like bullshit, came from readin the second half of your depression blog. I have never felt so hopeful before.
I have struggled with depression my whole life, but these past few years, it has been getting worse and worse. I finally asked to go to a mental health clinic, and it still didn't help. I can't see a way out sometimes, but reading this helps, because so many others relate. It helps me to remember that I am not alone, and it helps me remember to keep going even if it all sucks a big monkey nugget.
Thank you.
Wynne
Not sure if you could tell but the 3000 odd responses and I'm postive what amounts to several thousand undisclosed emails, but you cared about en mass, by people that more than likely will understand or will have been where you've been. You'll never be judged at by us, or cried at, or laughed at (unless that's the reaction you're going for, because seriously you've got us in the palms of your hands). And you'll never be ignored by us.
You are, unequivocally, a special individual. So next time you need to run to someone, talk to someone, not care, vent, anything (because, unforutnately, the desert may be behind us, but it's always there), shout out in the wasteland. To any one of us. Pick an email at random. Chances are there'll be someone out there just as lost, or someone who knows the best way forward.
You are not alone.
Oh, and welcome back.
I've been through that same exact thing a couple of times. My 'piece of corn' for the latest bout was hitting the curtains with my sheets. My roommates thought I had completely snapped because of the way I was laughing. I felt so much better. After I was done laughing I went upstairs and enjoyed my first good night's sleep in the first time in three months.
That sucks. I was still happy to see you post. I hope you find more corn.
It's amazing how familiar reading this feels... Or doesn't feel. I don't know, but it is relatable on a lot of levels. Especially the corn, and the unknown future! It's good to see you back!
Sorry for all the effulgent comments from everyone. A swift deluge of fake niceties that wash over in a turgid thrush. It sounds like they mean it, or something.
What I think about, on reading this, is how weird it is to imagine others that fake emotions along with me. I'm a little scared I know someone who fakes too, but we just fake it at each other. Wouldn't it be nice to know and just not bother?
That corn shouldn't have been there. What was it doing there anyway? Nothing. And no one was pestering it to be more than it was. Nice, shriveled, misplaced piece of dried up and dusty corn. It's yellow. Like a happy face. But no smile. Stupid funny corn - making me laugh too.
My wife suffers from depression and I can relate to all of this...just as the outsider trying to beat the depression to death with useless optimism. I've been with her for three years now and I still sometimes find myself trying to tell her to just smile her way through the depression. I'm kinda dumb. We both read this and it made her laugh more than I've seen her laugh in a long while. Especially the part with the corn. Thank you for this. You are a great person.
Welcome back. You've been missed. You put some really hard things into words and pictures and made it all make sense. This post would make a damn good info. pamphlet to be handed out in clinics and doctors office.
I have OCD and have been feeling depressed (as in this comic haha) for like 11 months now... I realized most of my life i've been depressed and well, no sad or happy little story, i just wanted to like...comment... dont know why haha
The way you manage to describe depression is pretty accurate and with some extra things, one can even laugh :3 aaand... Thanks for writing/drawing this! It was awesome :)
I've been down that road in the past, and you described it well.
Also, the next time I see a piece of shriveled corn I'm probably going to laugh at it.
You have a very usefully unique ability to portray depression and the ways in which people continuously fail to empathize with it. Showing these two posts to my parents started the process of coming to try to understand what im going through, which has taken 23 years to initiate. You are my piece of corn.
The corn made me laugh so hard, crazy tears attacked my face. I totally understand.
I wish I had better words than "thank you", but I don't. So thank you. And I hope your everything turns out to contain a low percentage of bullshit.
Welcome back! I've been having problems with depression for many years, & your sketches explain it so well. I know I'm just another random person on the internet, but I'm glad you're still here with us. n_n
Sorry for such an unoriginal comment, but I, too am so happy to see you back! You have been so missed! See how many people adore you? I am one of them.
I'm on the other side of the bullshit now and life is finally good for me.
Depression sucks. *You* are still fanshmastic.
We (your adoring fans) will hold your happies for you until you are better enough to take them back. Thank you for trying so hard. <3
Hey punk, no doubt the things you shared are scary, and no doubt you have alot of stuff still to get through. Good work,keep it up. I wanted to say one very small thing,
thank you.
:)
You nailed it. I don't think I could ever put all that into words as well as you did. Depression sucks and it's a constant battle. You'll have good days and bad days but know that there are lots of us out here going through the same thing. Glad to have you back. :)
I'll talk to God about you.
Feel free to contact me about what is said.
[parting halmark card sounding well wishing deleted]
Reading this really hit home, dredging up feelings and memories from a time I have mostly forgotten.
I don't think I was numb for very long, somehow I got over/through it, but those feelings of not being able to "just get over it", crying but not being sad, angry for no reason other than it was the only thing I could feel strongly....boy, those really hit me in the feels.
I guess I was unsure if I had been through depression until you laid it out right there. I explained it with teenage moodiness, but I think it was more than that.
Anyway, this post I guess is more for myself than for you, but thank you for laying you life out on the page for us. Your work inspires and helps us realize in these shitty moments, we are not alone.
Wow – nailed it! "I see corn" will implode on me whenever I am starting down the road of bleak and meaningless. Thank you
I don't know you and will probably never meet you, but I've been quietly worrying about you in the silence since your last update. I'm really glad you chose to walk back through the desert. I'm also really glad that you're making progress, and I hope the returning feelings settle and start behaving for you soon.
I suffer from depression. You have an amazing talent for expressing the inexpressible. Thank you.
Gasp!!! Bronze it and put it on a necklace!!!
every comment saying "I'm so happy to see you're back" seems oddly ironic, given the happiness sprinkler imagery...that said, this was beautiful. Thank you :)
Welcome back, x.
Frank_247
I don't really know what I can say, but I think I should say something because this post is just so accurate and true that it got through my indifference and made me think "whoa, that's so true and accurate" instead of the usual "meh." Same with the previous one - before I read it I didn't even know what was wrong with me. I don't know what I can do to feel better and I'm not even sure I want my feelings back, but I'll drag myself through this wasteland for some more time. It's good to know someone out there has similar experiences and understands.
If anybody was watching me read this, I chuckled here and there then laugh uncontrollably for a while and then starting bawling my eyes out at the end (not because of sadness but because of emotions).
Thank you for creating this. I'm dealing with the exact same thing and everything from "I don't necessarily want to kill myself..i just want to be dead somehow" to crying because it's just happening. Everything is so right on ... "Why not just make them be alive again?" I get this question a lot and I never know how to answer.
FYI my dogs look at me the same way as yours do.
I'm printing this out and putting it above my bed.
You convey things so well :D I get the corn thing and thank-you for the fish metaphor :D
Yes, oh yes. I have been to the place with no feelings. And out, and back again, etc.
Thank you for being able to articulate the feeling so very well. Sometimes, for me, just "doing the next thing" is what gets me through those times.
are you me by any chance?
only I'm still waiting for the corn
I can totally relate to this! Congratulations on feeling better.
thank you for writing this!
I'm very sorry to hear about your situation. I, too, felt -- or perhaps unfelt -- like you. Got a pretty wicked drinking addiction from it. I was lucky that I had things, mostly school and some deep seeded passions, to stay focused on which helped fill the existential gap at the root of the problem. Hopefully, you'll find the same solace.
I wouldn't recommend pharmaceuticals, but if they are the only thing that works, then work them.
Still, though, to this day I still have months punctuated with waking up and shutting down.
Good luck to you!
And if you ever want to talk to a stranger on the internet, I'm open! : )
My girlfriend also suffers from severe depression. You've helped put into perspective a lot of what she cannot fully articulate.
Stay focused on that corn, and I promise to do my best to stop rubbing feelings in her face like I can convert her if I shove enough "hope" down her throat.
Thank you so much for writing this.
The corn is hilarious, because I have had that feeling. I laughed so hard I cried (again, because I was crying during the crying part). My moment was something about innocent virginal goats, and I'm not going to bother explaining further than that. I'm glad you had corn.
Thank you for sharing your story! Sometimes I feel like no one has ever understood my journey and you told it beautifully. I am going to send the link to both my mother and my husband.
THANK YOU!
wonderful explanation of how it is to be depressed. It brought me back 40 years to when I felt like you just described. And I completely get the corn, though it could have been a pea, or a dried up strand of pasta... the mind is amazing, for creating feelings and definitions for them... or depriving you of everything. Anyway, thank you for sharing and glad you reappered on my radar! :-)
I was simultaneously giddy and relieved to see the new posts. Giddy because your writing and cartoons are geniusly funny (and poignantly honest).
Relieved because I was worried you may have died.
No, really, that was a concern.
Glad you're back and able to share. Hope that more of your self continues to come back. I only know the brim of depression (seasonal), but I can still appreciate this.
I don't know if things will get better, but even though you're depressed, I still like you!
Thank goodness for this and you
I can't wait to find my piece of cloorn
I'm glad you're finding the way back. Brilliant description of the whole depression business and how everyone around you reacts to it. If I nod any more, my head may fall off.
I'm so glad you made this post. One of the most frustrating aspects of depression is interacting with others. For the people who don't understand because they have never felt that soul-crushing sadness, it's impossible to explain to them. It's not something you choose; it just happens. I never really experienced the numbness you describe. I just felt ashamed all the time. Like I wanted to tear my skin off and be someone else.
Anyways, thank you for this. I don't know when you'll start to feel "normal" again, and it'll be a long road still. However, it will happen. The best advice I can give is, if you can, find a cognitive-behavioral therapist. It's more effective at treating depression than meds and it's the best way of preventing relapse. I went through CBT, and I cannot remember EVER feeling this content, even when I was suffering a depressive episode.
Allie's back! Thank the goddesses!
I'm going to brashly accuse you of writing something that was excellent, insightful and useful to people who don't understand depression.
Oh, and brain = "happy to death" made me laugh until I couldn't breathe.
Thanks for having the courage and wit to put depression into words (& pictures!) We're all happy you've made an appearance, but I hope you don't add our expectations to the list of things you can beat yourself up about.
It's too much to ask that the non-depressed people I love will truly understand, but I'm grateful that they continue to care despite my best efforts to hide in my shameful nothingness. I do what the doctors tell me and strive to stay physically healthy (diet & exercise) so I have the strength to continue slogging through the wasteland.
Most days there is hope.
I don't know if I was supposed to but your representation of all of this made me laugh my ass off. Not in a mean sort of way just a "wow that drawing is an amazingly good representation of this" kind of way. I don't know why it's funny. Glad you posted this, love it.
The dead fish metaphor is perfect. I had a 'friend' who kept insisting I could pull myself out of the pit if I really wanted to. Maybe it was a good thing I was too empty to care that he was piling on the guilt.
Reading all these comments is a revelation. I know depression is out there, but wow - look how many of us are saying you nailed it.
Why am I crying? Sometimes it just happens. Today it's because of the tremendous work you put into being back here today and posting. Thank you so very much Allie. <3
I missed your posts! This really was an eye opener for me.
This is pretty much exactly what depression's like for me, except in my case it never stays that severe for more than, I guess, a week at most. Can't imagine being that way for a year and a half - I'd never last that long.
I won't give you any mindless cheering-up crap like you described but I do hope things get better. You don't know me but I like your blog and I would miss you. Good luck.
:D
It feels good to know that there is someone on this Earth that has been there. I'm glad you got help, I've tried getting help but it just doesn't seem to be helping at all. I sometimes wonder if I'll ever get through this. I have something to live for but I do sometimes wish I was not alive. I don't want to kill myself, existing is just emotionally exhausting. Thank you for putting how so many of us feel into words and pictures.
You are a very smart girl and I'm glad that you can see everything with such clarity. Your perspective is brilliant, and I can see how reading this will help other people feel less alone. I hope you find that comfort too, eventually. Good luck.
Quite possibly the best description of what depression feels like EVER. xoxoxo Karin
I know you're probably busy being overwhelmed by whatever road you're on and the massive amount of other comments commiserating and rejoicing in your return, and it probably will mean very little that I count myself happily among that number, but I would just like to take a moment to thank you.
You took on the burden of sharing a heavy, harrowing experience with the world, and for that, you should be commended for your strength and bravery. Not only that, but you were able to utilize a unique combination of talent and skill to present it in such a way that many of us can either easily relate to or be deeply amused/entertained by your tales, for which you deserve a standing ovation. You delivered a story so unusual and profound, of a nature that is rarely shared and of a point of view that isn't often accepted or validated by the modern world, and for that, you deserve untold recognition. But on a more personal note, you decided to share with the masses of the blogsphere a tale that happened to touch me deeply, which resonated in such a way that I felt I may have learned more about myself just by reading it. You contributed, if in a small way, joy to my day, entertainment to my life, and a new facet to the jewel of my very existence. And for that, I thank you.
I'M SO HAPPY YOU'RE BACK AND OK! And I completely understand you laughing about corn; it has happened to me a few times. Except with a leave, words, and miscellaneous objects. Plus, my laughter's usually followed by pain... But anyway. I forgot what I was going to say. Ah well. You know, peas are kind of like corn, only they're green (like envy or greed) and they're from a smaller group. They also look like boogers, but a lot of kids still hate them. Corn and peas probably go very well together.
a very inspiring post, great to have you back! you have been missed.
this is strangely making a lot of sense to me, and i dont consider myself depressed.. but who knows i may be heading that way...
If i do, ill be sure to remember this and read it over and over for inspiration.
hope things get better x
You're not the only one who wished for a fatal illness . Then you could be dead & it wasn't your fault.
Thank you Allie, I'm so glad you're back and even a little bit okay!
Thanks for coming back, I'm so glad you've posted again.
Also, this post is amazing. I too suffer from depression; hopefully I can get my wife to read your post and she can have a better understanding of what depression does to people.
This is quite possibly the best article I have read on the internet. Ever. And I've read a lot of things on the internet. Like a whole lot.
Wow, this was amazing.
Your fish are dead, and so are mine. And now I'm laughing at thinking about corn and dead fish.
Best description of depression ever written. Every psychologist and counselor and...oh heck, every person on the planet should read this and then they'll GET IT.
You are awesome.
Thanks for being you and doing what you do.
Corms are magical. As are you.
I'm glad you saw a kernel of corn. Definitely team #lonelycorn.
By the way - the internets? We adore you.
It's wonderful to see a new post from you - you and your stories and your way of describing things PERFECTLY are worth waiting for.
I think that if anyone ever needed a million people saying, "thank you," it might be you. So this is me adding one more. Thanks, well, for sticking around, and also for writing amazing things that make the world better.
All the feels
I saw myself in so much of this post...thank god someone else gets it. So glad you're feeling better and hope you continue to write. I'm a huge fan.
i loved it so much, thank you, you are awesome!
Allie, I am glad you are back and that you're doing a whole bunch better. Also, thank you for this post. I'm going through a depressing time myself, and reading this reassures me that I'm not alone with the way I feel at times.
The facial expressions thing! Thank you for putting into words! I feel it so hard.
... also any chance that we could help fund you with "maybe everything isn't hopeless bullshit" merch?
Enormous love! Thank you so much for keeping on keeping on!
I'm glad things are looking less shitty for you :] Depression is a terrible beast. In all honesty, this made me tear up because I can relate to it all too much. I pray things continue to look up for you. <3
I related to this post so damn much, oh my god.
While it may feel like hopeless bullshit to you, these posts give so much to other people. I was laughing with tears running down my face at the same time that my heart was breaking for what you've been going through. You connect to a part of what it feels like to be human and alive very deeply. I hope you can see that at some point. Your own struggle with horrible depression and the fact you didn't kill yourself - that alone is going to give people hope. You're right - all you need is a tiny bit of not-knowing, or willingness to believe you might not know. That's enough. Will be thinking good thoughts towards your continued recovery.
Brilliant and beautiful. Is May 9 now the day each year when we all wear single, shriveled kernels of corn on strings around our necks?
I'm still waiting for my shriveled piece of corn... but I'm glad you're back. May much corn and corn by-products fill your life with mirth once more.
Missed you, Allie. I'm glad you're back. I think we all are haha. (:
thank you for that story,it means a lot to me
Xoxoxo
Thank you so much for posting this. My girlfriend has also suffered from depression and it was crazy trying to figure it out for all those years. I did a lot of the same stupid things your friends did in trying to be optimistic, thinking that would work. She's much better now, but it was extremely hard to understand. Your post has given me another way to look at it and given me a little more background into why my own girlfriend might have been acting the way she did around me. I want to go give her a hug right now...
Thanks again, Allie. It's great to have you back :)
This is awesomely helpful for friends and family of those going through depression. I'm really thrilled to have found it.
I have never heard someone compare depression to endless, soul-crushing boredom, but it makes TOTAL SENSE. Brilliant. I'm so glad you found corn to be the complete opposite of boring. Welcome back!
So glad you're back! I've missed your drawings and stories!
Thank you for this. I've been suicidal before and it was EXACTLY as you described it. Thank you.
Thanks for helping me understand what's going on in my brain right now. I don't think anyone else has been able to make this incredibly confusing time more clear than you.
Missed your humor. Have no idea what to say or do that can help you, but know we like you no matter what :)
Thank you.
This is perfect.
This is needed.
I have been there more than once, and you explain it perfectly.
Thank you.
Thank you. This may have been my stupid piece of corn on the floor.
You saw that piece of corn, too? Hooey, that thing was just- it was... Hooey! Hilarious.
I can't even pretend to know what you were feeling, so I don't have any empathetic "Oh, I know all your feels" things to share. However, I do know that you returning to the internets makes me crazy happy!! And I'm totally glad you have decided that maybe things aren't bullshit after all. Welcome back!
This? Is genius. As are you. Thank you for making the effort to put this all down. I know how hard it is. One foot in front of the other. Repeat. <3
Glad you are back. Sorry to read about your battles. Your post has touched a lot of people who have experienced similiar feelings Allie. Not too long ago I had an accident playing football and broke my leg. In the hospital they gave me morphine and it blew my mind. Time didn't exist and I completely lost any sense of 'self'. I was naturally intrigued by what the hell just happened and googled it when I finally got home. Turns out a lot of people had similiar experiences and to cut a long story short my research led me to Alan Watts the deceased philosopher. I urge you to listen to him on YouTube. He has brought me a sense of understanding living in a world where it's very way too easy to feel lost. I hope you continue to recover as you have so many loving fans. As someone who can draw super-realistic I also just want to say I love your drawings so much more. Angry face in the hoodie is my fav. We love you x
Oh, Allie. I'm so glad you're okay. I went through a battle with THE FORCES OF DARKNESS a while back and I completely identify with the corn thing.
I'm sorry you have suffered. I am so glad you didn't hurt yourself.
I'm so glad you're posting again...I thought you'd been eaten by an alot!
If this comment shows up a hundred times it's because my phone was dumb and I had to try it on my computer. Sorry about that.
Hooray!
I love your blog, Allie. The one with the awkward encounters is one of the funniest things I've ever read mashaAllah :D That said - as you wrote, things are not always funny. I've suffered from various forms of depression since I was 17 (I'm 25 now). Some were major ups and downs. Some were what I call the "black fog" - inability to think or function but still able to feel - like looking at the world through a poisonous dark fog that weighs on your heart like a physical force. Ive tried medication (birth control) that helped a lot, thank God.
I've also experienced this detachment you talk about - pretty complete lack of caring or feelings. If it helps *at all*, I've noticed that the worst depression comes about when I'm highly stressed - chronically so (I'm a grad student). And I've also noticed that it does eventually end, thank God. I don't know how and why - sunshine and sleep seem to help - but it comes on randomly and *does* end, inshaAllah (God willing). I'm kind of rational and able to detach myself from situations by nature, so I just look at it from a rational/detached point of view (if depression can be said to be rational) and let it happen.
I understand the corn thing, by the way. I can't explain it either :) but I do understand.
-S.
Thanks for posting!
I am so glad you're back and feeling better. Keep on laughing at corn, girlfriend. :-)
You pretty much made this such a perfect representation of how it all is when depressed that I couldn't not laugh. Having been through this exact thing, you did this splendidly.
Thank you.
Allie,
You're an amazing story teller. This honestly brought a tear to my eye. Thank you for sharing.
It may sound silly since we don't know each other. But I'm happy you're around.
This so perfectly captures it. I love you.
Wow that's almost EXACTLY how it went when I tried to tell my mom I was suicidal. I'm really thrilled you're back and you're okay <3
I think this is the most profound thing I've ever read about depression, and it included the word "motherfucker"! I've truly missed you, dear awesome stranger-friend. Welcome back.
This is one of the most beautiful and inspiring things I have ever read. Thank you :)
Your post made me understand more than I ever have before my boyfriend's battle with depression and what he calls 'dark periods'. I have a better understanding of what to do now...just be there for him. Thank you for having the courage to share.
THIS should be the brochure they give out to family and friends at the shrink's office....
I've been down that road. Not as far as you went, but I've seen it. Believe it or not, I understand why the corn was funny and made you laugh. No, I can't explain it either.
I'm Glad things are improving.
I love this. It's so how depression feels for me. I love the fish metaphor especially.
I'm glad that things are getting a bit better.
I have a feeling the "I relate" thing is said a lot here, and I feel a little bad to repeat those words again already.
This blog post is, in all honesty, a big flashback for me. Only thing different was that your emotion build up versus mine flipped the anger and sadness. I also differed in that I could trick myself easily (and naturally) and that helped me not be in the dumps too much. Though, the rare times of being in the dump were like a death bed. Ouch.
But, um, it's nice that you're getting back up. I cant say much more without making an article in the comments section so...I hope the best for you!
I am so glad you're back and feeling better. Keep on laughing at corn, girlfriend. :-)
Great stuff, i want to recommend a course of action, but you seem like you got it down
Hey Allie,
Thanks for this. I think it takes courage to lay it all out there the way you did. And I think that this resonated with a lot of people who have dealt with depression, and that in one witty, funny, honest post, you spoke for a lot of us. Hopefully other people who don't get it will at least maybe sorta understand better.
I'm sorry your fish are super dead. I'm glad you found that corn. I'm glad you're still beating your heart like a motherfucking champion.
Oh my God, this is where I live.
And I didn't even see the slide in.
I am not being light about this at all.
Maybe you are my piece of corn.
So many comments of so much love. this hit a huge nerve with me, you're excellent please post again sooooooooon.
I'm laughing and crying - you explained this so well, it took me right back to the moment my worst times turned into laughing hysterically at something that probably wasn't all that funny in retrospect (though, I don't know, I think the piece of corn is pretty funny - maybe it's the way you tell it.) I'm so happy you're still here - the world wouldn't be quite the same without you. You have a unique way of telling stories that I'd miss a lot. I know it's a long road but I hope things keep on getting better for you, day by day. You deserve it. <3
Thank you for this terrific piece. You've also reflected something painfully accurate about what it's like to care for someone with depression, and I appreciate that.
Thank you so so much for this post! I can relate so much to everything you had to say! I finally embraced my depression last year and am medicated and happy! lol!
Welcome back!:)
I, like the two thousand people who got here before me, am also glad that you are back doing this weird thang you do. And yay! Hating things is way better than not feeling anything about things.
Thank you for writing this. I have felt every single thing you've written about and thought I was crazy. I'm glad I'm not the only one who's had to figure out a good way to tell someone I want to die while simultaneously being taken seriously and not being locked up.
I'm glad you're on the way up. =)
I loved this story Allie, one of your best. I can relate and I enjoyed reading it! XO Looking forward to reading new blogs from you!
This is the most accurate description of depression I have ever read. I'm sorry you are going through this experience, and I'm not here to be a motivational poster. I will say that I enjoyed reading this, it made me tear up in a few places, and I feel like I now have better language to try to explain to people what I am experiencing. So, thank you.
Thank you. Very much.
I know that well wishing and optimism won't help. I have been there myself several times and I know. What I want to offer instead, is time. Patience. Understanding. Allie, take as long as you need. I am so glad that you are getting better, and want to let you know that when you feel up to coming back, we will be here. Thanks for all you have given, and I want to let you know that I CAN wait for you to come back. I can wait for as long as you need.
Best wishes. Good luck. Genuine hope. We shall see you when we see you,
James
This post explained depression, or my experience with it, better than I ever have. I genuinely feel the need to show everyone I know. You put into words, and pictures, the excruciating experience of depression. I can't tell you it gets all the way better. Every day I fear I'm going to fall back into depression, because it can happen when you least expect it. I know I am happy now though, so I bet you can be to! At the very least, know that you aren't alone.
Hey, I just wanted to say that your corn is hilarious and I have no idea why, but I just laughed for a good ten minutes. Thank you.
What general advice would you give to someone who wants to help a depressed friend?
This is absolutely incredible by the way.
Allie, I loved this. Also, I don't understand why no one understood how hilarious your corn was. I think it's really funny. (That coming from someone who is at least a little depressed but whatever) I'm so sorry that you've been so depressed and I won't choke you with hope but I think that if you want to, you can get past it. <3
Yay. Yay. Yay. You're back. Looked last week for the millionth time, but now yay. Yay. Yay!
I'm so in the middle of this right now. ;u; I just haven't told anyone yet, or gotten to the doctor. We'll see if I can get there at all, given how lethargic I've been feeling.
Also that thing at the bottom of the page scared the shit out of me.
Great work Allie, seriously! :)
I'm so happy to see you back!
I can relate to this experience heavily right now after my friends recent passing.
I'm glad to know I am not alone with this feeling and that there is a hope somewhere in the world. :)
So glad you're back. Maybe it's all stupid monkeyshit instead. This was beautiful, thank you for your vulnerability and truth-telling! That is what I have always loved about your blog!
Corn!
thank you.
That post hit home with me. Really. And depression is so hard to describe that the only thing left is frustration.
But glad to see you back !
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miEpngZshDw
Reminds me of this person :) cheers!
Perhaps you could relate to the corn, as you too were shriveled and alone on the kitchen floor, and this divergence of reality caused your mind to overload with glorious optimism that just as you found the corn, some divine force of insanity and optimism would find you. I've been there.
I thought the corn was pretty funny :)
Unreal.
The level and accuracy at which you have expressed my experience is unreal. I've got to say I envy your articulation, expression and ability to communicate what happens to a degree I never could. Simply amazing.
the corn is hilarious. I also know what it is to cry uncontrollably and not know why. I'm glad you got some of the more interesting feelings back. They can be pretty cool, even the crying since it really helps when it is dry outside. Welcome back!
Allie,
Congratulations to you for posting this. Few are those who can openly admit they suffer from depression to just a few with whom they are close, let alone share it with the world.
I have had three bouts of depression in my lifetime, and though they have manifested themselves very differently than it seems for you- I've sat in a snotty, blubbering heap on my kitchen floor, crying for hours; I've hated everything and everyone because they seem to be able to function; I've thought about how much better it would be to just give up and throw in the towel because anything at all would be better than feeling nothing, feeling helpless and feeling totally alone. But, I've also had that "piece of corn" moment each time too, and those are the moments that resonate, that give me hope and remind me that there's a light at the end of the shitty, terrible, awful depression tunnel.
Best wishes to you.
Thay made me laugh. Then it made me cry. I don't know why. It just did. Thank you.
I really just want to send you many many pounds of corn right now.
And if it wasn't such a creeper thing to do, I totally would.
This is so unbelievably relatable. I don't know if it's better to find so many people feel the exact same way you do or worse. But I completely understand everything you were saying.
I don't have good words to explain. I'm just really happy to have this post, and I hope you find lots more abandoned corn.
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