I didn't understand why it was fun for me, it just was.
But as I grew older, it became harder and harder to access that expansive imaginary space that made my toys fun. I remember looking at them and feeling sort of frustrated and confused that things weren't the same.
I played out all the same story lines that had been fun before, but the meaning had disappeared. Horse's Big Space Adventure transformed into holding a plastic horse in the air, hoping it would somehow be enjoyable for me. Prehistoric Crazy-Bus Death Ride was just smashing a toy bus full of dinosaurs into the wall while feeling sort of bored and unfulfilled. I could no longer connect to my toys in a way that allowed me to participate in the experience.
Depression feels almost exactly like that, except about everything.
At first, though, the invulnerability that accompanied the detachment was exhilarating. At least as exhilarating as something can be without involving real emotions.
The beginning of my depression had been nothing but feelings, so the emotional deadening that followed was a welcome relief. I had always wanted to not give a fuck about anything. I viewed feelings as a weakness — annoying obstacles on my quest for total power over myself. And I finally didn't have to feel them anymore.
But my experiences slowly flattened and blended together until it became obvious that there's a huge difference between not giving a fuck and not being able to give a fuck. Cognitively, you might know that different things are happening to you, but they don't feel very different.
Which leads to horrible, soul-decaying boredom.
I tried to get out more, but most fun activities just left me existentially confused or frustrated with my inability to enjoy them.
Months oozed by, and I gradually came to accept that maybe enjoyment was not a thing I got to feel anymore. I didn't want anyone to know, though. I was still sort of uncomfortable about how bored and detached I felt around other people, and I was still holding out hope that the whole thing would spontaneously work itself out. As long as I could manage to not alienate anyone, everything might be okay!
However, I could no longer rely on genuine emotion to generate facial expressions, and when you have to spend every social interaction consciously manipulating your face into shapes that are only approximately the right ones, alienating people is inevitable.
Everyone noticed.
It's weird for people who still have feelings to be around depressed people. They try to help you have feelings again so things can go back to normal, and it's frustrating for them when that doesn't happen. From their perspective, it seems like there has got to be some untapped source of happiness within you that you've simply lost track of, and if you could just see how beautiful things are...
At first, I'd try to explain that it's not really negativity or sadness anymore, it's more just this detached, meaningless fog where you can't feel anything about anything — even the things you love, even fun things — and you're horribly bored and lonely, but since you've lost your ability to connect with any of the things that would normally make you feel less bored and lonely, you're stuck in the boring, lonely, meaningless void without anything to distract you from how boring, lonely, and meaningless it is.
But people want to help. So they try harder to make you feel hopeful and positive about the situation. You explain it again, hoping they'll try a less hope-centric approach, but re-explaining your total inability to experience joy inevitably sounds kind of negative; like maybe you WANT to be depressed. The positivity starts coming out in a spray — a giant, desperate happiness sprinkler pointed directly at your face. And it keeps going like that until you're having this weird argument where you're trying to convince the person that you are far too hopeless for hope just so they'll give up on their optimism crusade and let you go back to feeling bored and lonely by yourself.
And that's the most frustrating thing about depression. It isn't always something you can fight back against with hope. It isn't even something — it's nothing. And you can't combat nothing. You can't fill it up. You can't cover it. It's just there, pulling the meaning out of everything. That being the case, all the hopeful, proactive solutions start to sound completely insane in contrast to the scope of the problem.
It would be like having a bunch of dead fish, but no one around you will acknowledge that the fish are dead. Instead, they offer to help you look for the fish or try to help you figure out why they disappeared.
The problem might not even have a solution. But you aren't necessarily looking for solutions. You're maybe just looking for someone to say "sorry about how dead your fish are" or "wow, those are super dead. I still like you, though."
I started spending more time alone.
Perhaps it was because I lacked the emotional depth necessary to panic, or maybe my predicament didn't feel dramatic enough to make me suspicious, but I somehow managed to convince myself that everything was still under my control right up until I noticed myself wishing that nothing loved me so I wouldn't feel obligated to keep existing.
It's a strange moment when you realize that you don't want to be alive anymore. If I had feelings, I'm sure I would have felt surprised. I have spent the vast majority of my life actively attempting to survive. Ever since my most distant single-celled ancestor squiggled into existence, there has been an unbroken chain of things that wanted to stick around.
Yet there I was, casually wishing that I could stop existing in the same way you'd want to leave an empty room or mute an unbearably repetitive noise.
That wasn't the worst part, though. The worst part was deciding to keep going.
When I say that deciding to not kill myself was the worst part, I should clarify that I don't mean it in a retrospective sense. From where I am now, it seems like a solid enough decision. But at the time, it felt like I had been dragging myself through the most miserable, endless wasteland, and — far in the distance — I had seen the promising glimmer of a slightly less miserable wasteland. And for just a moment, I thought maybe I'd be able to stop and rest. But as soon as I arrived at the border of the less miserable wasteland, I found out that I'd have to turn around and walk back the other way.
Soon afterward, I discovered that there's no tactful or comfortable way to inform other people that you might be suicidal. And there's definitely no way to ask for help casually.
I didn't want it to be a big deal. However, it's an alarming subject. Trying to be nonchalant about it just makes it weird for everyone.
I was also extremely ill-prepared for the position of comforting people. The things that seemed reassuring at the time weren't necessarily comforting for others.
The next few weeks were a haze of talking to relentlessly hopeful people about my feelings that didn't exist so I could be prescribed medication that might help me have them again.
And every direction was bullshit for a really long time, especially up. The absurdity of working so hard to continue doing something you don't like can be overwhelming. And the longer it takes to feel different, the more it starts to seem like everything might actually be hopeless bullshit.
My feelings did start to return eventually. But not all of them came back, and they didn't arrive symmetrically.
I had not been able to care for a very long time, and when I finally started being able to care about things again, I HATED them. But hatred is technically a feeling, and my brain latched onto it like a child learning a new word.
Hating everything made all the positivity and hope feel even more unpalatable. The syrupy, over-simplified optimism started to feel almost offensive.
Thankfully, I rediscovered crying just before I got sick of hating things. I call this emotion "crying" and not "sadness" because that's all it really was. Just crying for the sake of crying. My brain had partially learned how to be sad again, but it took the feeling out for a joy ride before it had learned how to use the brakes or steer.
At some point during this phase, I was crying on the kitchen floor for no reason. As was common practice during bouts of floor-crying, I was staring straight ahead at nothing in particular and feeling sort of weird about myself. Then, through the film of tears and nothingness, I spotted a tiny, shriveled piece of corn under the refrigerator.
I don't claim to know why this happened, but when I saw the piece of corn, something snapped. And then that thing twisted through a few permutations of logic that I don't understand, and produced the most confusing bout of uncontrollable, debilitating laughter that I have ever experienced.
I had absolutely no idea what was going on.
My brain had apparently been storing every unfelt scrap of happiness from the last nineteen months, and it had impulsively decided to unleash all of it at once in what would appear to be an act of vengeance.
That piece of corn is the funniest thing I have ever seen, and I cannot explain to anyone why it's funny. I don't even know why. If someone ever asks me "what was the exact moment where things started to feel slightly less shitty?" instead of telling a nice, heartwarming story about the support of the people who loved and believed in me, I'm going to have to tell them about the piece of corn. And then I'm going to have to try to explain that no, really, it was funny. Because, see, the way the corn was sitting on the floor... it was so alone... and it was just sitting there! And no matter how I explain it, I'll get the same, confused look. So maybe I'll try to show them the piece of corn - to see if they get it. They won't. Things will get even weirder.
Anyway, I wanted to end this on a hopeful, positive note, but, seeing as how my sense of hope and positivity is still shrouded in a thick layer of feeling like hope and positivity are bullshit, I'll just say this: Nobody can guarantee that it's going to be okay, but — and I don't know if this will be comforting to anyone else — the possibility exists that there's a piece of corn on a floor somewhere that will make you just as confused about why you are laughing as you have ever been about why you are depressed. And even if everything still seems like hopeless bullshit, maybe it's just pointless bullshit or weird bullshit or possibly not even bullshit.
I don't know.
But when you're concerned that the miserable, boring wasteland in front of you might stretch all the way into forever, not knowing feels strangely hope-like.
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«Oldest ‹Older 1801 – 2000 of 4972 Newer› Newest»thank you -- you describe so well what my heart child's been trying to tell and show -- over and over and over. I just don't seem to be getting it -- moms so much want to rescue and save and protect -- and it's like a big old blockade built up around that doesn't let us in to snatch from the black pit and pull out free into the sunshine.... sucks totally.
so, thank you
Yup. Keep talking about it. It doesn't always help at the time you're talking, but something about relating the story is like a "my-life-sucks" pressure valve. It comes in waves for me, and each time it comes around, I feel more prepared to ride it out. It still sucks, but maybe less most times.
Allie, I am so glad you're still alive, sharing your stories with the world. I hate to be an unrealistically positive voice, but I've been through some stuff too, and it's fucking hard to keep going. But being happy is possible, and as impossible as it can seem, it's worth it.
I'm glad the medication is starting to help. I truly do hope you find other things that help just as much and more.
I've lived without joy or interest in anything since my early 20s. It's been over a decade. I figured that was just what getting old s.
This is, without a doubt, the most accurate description of what depression is like that I've ever read. Thank you for capturing something that's so hard to explain.
Well, that was really really hard to read. Because I've definitely been there. Right down to 'No no no, I'm not going to kill myself, I'm just going to walk around hoping something else does it.' and 'STOP THROWING YOUR POSITIVITY AT MY NOT-FEELINGS.' I actually teared up a bit. This is exactly what it's like and I think I'll be making everyone who's ever told me 'just look on the bright side' read it.
Thank you for this, Allie. It hurt, but it was a fantastic hurt.
I'm right there with ya; it's a tough road...
I am so fucking glad you're back! I have fought the good fight (and still continue to do so) against depression and you nailed your corn story. My "revelation" involved my accidentally running into a brick wall and then it all became clear! I am seriously so glad you're back, but more so because you are at the point of knowing you want to come back. Keep on truckin'!
You posting this today just made me feel like I'm not the only one that goes thru this. Especially today. And throuh it all you still made me laugh. I guess its because its so relateable. Glad your back.
I'm so sorry your fish are super dead, but I still think you're great and your comics are wonderful.
Sorry about the dead fish. We all still like you. Promise.
I feel like you're speaking my words. You make me feel less alone. You may never know the incredible impact you have on so many people. And so many people rooting for you.
You have been sorely missed. Brilliant post!
Welcome back.
<3 <3 <3 welcome back/you are fucking awesome
Wow, reading that surely brings back a lot of memories : o
Glad to see you're going better ^_^ I'll be happy to read your upcoming adventures again ! :)
That's really... depression from another point of view :o
Oh god, yes, this.
And I understand why the corn was funny. For me it was duck decoys. I about ruptured something on multiple occasions over the mere existence of duck decoys.
This is not something I can really explain to other people.
Everything is going to be...something because...corn.
I really enjoyed this.
Thanks.
I love you for being able to express what I have not been able to express in my whole adult life.
I wish more people understood the idea of "not wanting to exist" (not on a personal level, but, you know...) versus "wanting to kill oneself". I did not want to kill myself - that was far too active - I simply wanted to cease being.
I am happy and relieved to see you post again.
Corn is pretty funny sometimes.
i cant explain how incredibly alone i was feeling until this post happened and now i dont feel so alone anymore and im just so glad yr doing what yr doing and i appreciate you so much <3
Thank you so much for writing about this. I'm really thankful.
This paragraph totally resonated with me:
It's weird for people who still have feelings to be around depressed people. They try to help you have feelings again so things can go back to normal, and it's frustrating for them when that doesn't happen. From their perspective, it seems like there has got to be some untapped source of happiness within you that you've simply lost track of, and if you could just see how beautiful things are...
Except that sometimes, they just want to fix you. They're convinced that if they can figure out what's wrong, they can fix it, so they hound you for answers about what's wrong and why are you sad and what did they do to make you unhappy, when really, they had nothing to do with it and sometimes you just don't know what's wrong. That was the worst part of it for me. And I don't know if I'll ever know what was wrong, which makes it a zillion times harder to fix.
But I'm glad you're back and I hope that, whatever caused your trouble, you'll be able to stay well and kick its butt. :)
So glad you're back and getting better! We were all so worried about you xoxoxo
You have such a wonderful way of sharing your experiences with the world. I always look forward to reading your posts and the smile that it brings especially on a sometimes awful day. I'm really glad that your back and feeling at the very least hope like.
Jesus, Allie...
That just made me relive 2010 all over again. One debilitating crushing beautiful moment at a time. I don't know whether to hug you or hit you. I have a feeling you'd allow and reciprocate both.
I'm three years on the flip side of where you are right now. Not all the feelings came back. I lost my ability to write creatively, and I mourn it every day. But living, in itself, seems most days to be kind of not always bullshit, and there are simple joys in it. My favorite is just sitting on the patio and listening to the birds. That is decidedly not bullshit and feels really awesome. You'll find something that feels like not-bullshit, and then life will be pretty okay. But do it in your time, and if that thing is a shriveled piece of corn, never feel like you have to explain yourself.
I really, really wish we were IRL friends because I could definitely use someone who understands how I feel (or don't) as articulately as you do. But knowing I'm not the only one is a huge comfort. Thank you, as always, for sharing.
FIRST OF ALL, I've left this comment twice, so third times a charm.
Allie, *snuggles* I am so happy you're back, and that you didn't end things. Its strange, isn't it? Trying to feel, but not being able to, while everyone around you is trying to make it so.
When I say I know what you're going through, I truly mean it. I've been there with all of this, even the suicidal part. So when I say things will eventually get better, I honestly mean it. You'll start feeling more and more as each day goes on. It took a long time for me to feel normal, but now, I honestly can't remember when it went from "nothing" to "something".
I love you, Allie, and thought of you a lot this last year. I'm so glad you found your corn. <3
Thank you for posting this. It really helped me understand how my husband feels when he gets depressed. Maybe now I can learn to just be with him and not try to fix a problem.
I wish I could send you one piece of corn a day. I wish I could find my corn. I will. Eventually. I am going to let this story be my corn today.
Thanks Allie. Sorry about your fish. I am glad you found your corn.
Sorry about how dead your fish are. I still like you though.
This could not be any better of a description of what it's like inside the mind of someone depressed.
Who knew that there was a way to draw the concept "you can't prove a negative"????
You make me happy. In the face of numbness this is even more happy-making, until the happy gets so big it's actually something, as opposed to the nothing.
Thanks.
This is a great post. It's very heart wrenching, but it describes something very difficult to explain absolutely perfectly. I'm sure many, many people can relate to your experience. I know I can.
At some point after the finding weird things funny for no reason stage, I started to slowly realize that I had a full range (at least as far as I can tell) of emotions again. After years of battling with this hopeless void, last week I was able to sit down and tell myself that I was actually content with my life. I don't know when it happened...
Anyhow, I am happy you decided to continue to wade through the desert, and after a while, maybe you'll notice you're content with your life, too.
Wow... came here via another blog, and this just blew my damn mind. You are an amazing writer, I love your little drawings (never knew I was such a visual learner), and this post "dinged" something in my brain for me... Anyway, I'm new to your blog, but am still really glad that you're here and I can't wait to read more!
My friend has depression.
I understand it to an extend and your explanation helps as well. But I still don’t understand what
I can do as a friend to help.
I try not to be overly perky cause I know that won’t help but it can be so frustrating when we are doing things or going somewhere I know she would enjoy and she doesn’t go and then gets even more depressed because she didn’t go.
I wish I knew a way to help her cause just watching her sit in her room doing nothing doesn’t seem to be helping to me.
Sidenote – you should get that corn put on a necklace or something cause I think it should be something to keep – it’s your first glimmer of the light at the end of the tunnel.
Thank you, there must be so many people feeling like this, they can not understand themselves and neither other people, feeling lonely. Now they can know that is something that happens, and know a way taht works, maybe it's not their way, but they can try to find the one they need.
I'm sorry all of your fish died.
I'm so glad to her from you again though, i hope this means your really back. The internet was a dark place without you.
this is really, really well said. ive experienced a few corn moments in my journey, as well. good luck and i am SO GLAD YOU ARE BACK!!!!!!
Allie, I am so glad you are back. I've been in a similar place many times, and I'm sure I will be again. I've never had the words to describe what depression feels like before, because you're exactly right; it doesn't FEEL like anything. It just is. And I have been on the other side of the equation too, trying to comfort other depressed people, knowing that it wouldn't work. If you aren't simultaneously depressed, even if you have been in the past, it is difficult to empathize with people and understand what they need. Thank you for finding the words for me. I think a lot of my depression stems from not knowing how to manage my ADHD well. Do you think that is the root of your problem too?
I'm so thankful for that piece of corn.
Allie, Thank you. Thank you for your humor, your honesty, you awesome blend of coffee, you crappy not crappy pictures, and your bravery. Thank you for putting into words and pictures what depression feels like in a way I could only begin to express to those around me. I'm glad you decided to endure the miserable wasteland and found the corn. Depression is a lying punk ass mofo.
My fish die every two weeks and I still don't know where!
Thank you Allie. And thank you little piece of lonely floor corn.
I can relate to this so well it's scary. Thank you for giving me the right words to explain it when people don't get it (which is often the case). For what it's worth, your posts make me feel less like an alien for feeling the way I do. While it doesn't exactly make the feeling go away, it helps to not feel like I'm the only person in the world carrying around dead fish (because when the hope-spray starts in from the people whose lives aren't being impaired, it can feel that way). I hope you feel the same way to realize how many people relate to you, for the good and the bad.
So, those fish sure are dead, but I like you anyway. :) Thanks for making a difficult topic both informative and hilarious.
This post was my piece of corn today. Thank you. Seriously. From the bottom of my heart. I felt so alone for so long.
I love you, Allie. I know that's silly, but I do, and I really really missed you.
And the even better part is how few people seem to understand what it's like to be suicidal and depressed, and then be able to be funny about it.
I remember a few times being just furiously angry at my family and friends for caring about me and refusing to just LET ME DIE BECAUSE I WAS SO FUCKING DONE WITH EXISTING.
But sometimes all you can do is point out how ridiculous it is, and how little control you have over it, and just laugh so you don't cry.
I hope that things get better for you. We missed you, Allie, welcome back to the world of feels.
I am glad you are back. My niece is a big fan, and I have grown to be one too.
For me it is recurring depression, including 1 5 week inpatient stay at the Mayo Clinic. A 21 course string of ECTs, and a long time adjusting medications.
It sucks when your brain is broken.
Allie,
Thank you for posting this. Not only do your words really resonate (like a lot of commenters, it seems sometimes like you've taken a peek inside my brain), but in reading what everyone else has written in the comments, I feel a tiny bit less alone than I did before. Like everything else related to my depression, progress is never in giant revelations - but in little steps (like your corn nugget). So thank you for helping me feel a little less alone today, even if it's just for a little while.
It's great to see you writing again, and I hope you keep on posting!
Aww. Corn. I'm glad you're feeling up to posting. This post is going to help people.
My depression is not like yours. No one's is. But your descriptions, reactions, illustrations, and ongoing battle are life-changingly powerful.
You are gifted.
Be well.
Even after working as a therapist for decades, I have never read a better description of depression. The drawings, I think , are key. They take me right *there* to where you were and what you were feeling. This deserves a wide audience. You are fabulous, and I hope you look back on this amazing post with the greatest pride.
Glad to read from you, Allie! All the best from Cologne.
So happy you're back!! I remember once laughing so hard at one of your posts but trying to stifle it because I was alone in the room with my Dad, and trying to stop the laughter made me make these weird convulsing noises and caused my Dad to ask me if I was okay. Anyway moral of the story is you managed to describe how I sometimes feel even better than I could. I've been wondering if I get depression for a while now and really appreciated reading this.
Also I remember seeing some photos of you a while ago and I think you're totally gorgeous :)
Allie...totally been there. Been struggling with it over the past year or so. You are not alone. I'm so glad you are back and are getting help. It will get better. :)
I'm so glad that little piece of corn made you so happy. I shall be sure to sacrifice something awesome to the Cord Gods for your happy return.
Welcome back, even if you're only halfway back it's better than not being back at all.
Allie, I have struggled with depression for years and it is just s you describe it- thank you for writing this post. I did find that taking vitamins helped, especially high dose vitamin Bs, because I couldn't eat well when I was depressed and that made everything worse. You made it through the worst part too so well done. Love x
Thank you for your honesty and bravery in sharing this. I've been reading your blog for several years, and I missed it and your humor.
Seriously, thank you so much for this. I have had the exact same thoughts about "casually wishing I didn't exist" and wishing that things didn't love me so I didn't have to keep existing. Those times were scary. And I did find my corn then somehow, but it's scary to know I could lose my corn again at any time. Your words at the end really are a good reminder to keep going, though...There might be another corn.
Missed you so much! You don't know how much you make me laugh. (((all the hugs)))
Allie, thank you so much for this post. It's so hard to convey what depression really is like and you've done it brilliantly and with humor. I've been hoping you would post again since the 2011 last post, and I'm so glad you decided to write this. You are amazingly talented and I have shared your posts with many people I know. Love your art and your writing. Much appreciation, from Philadelphia....
THANK GOD YOU'RE BACK.
Best description of depression I've ever read. And I've been there. Love the part about making the right face. I don't like to brag, but I got pretty good at that. You can be damned sure that your explanation will be used by others. "Stop asking, just read this and leave me alone." Brilliant.
I also think that all these sweet, well-meaning people telling you how great you are need to pipe the hell down. When I am down on myself, "these people have no idea what they are talking about - I'm quite a bit more twisted on the inside than they know..." then having people try to reassure me that I am wrong and they are right - "no really! you are fabulous!" It makes me feel like a NEED to be fabulous. And that is pretty much the most stressful thing EVER. So. You are an amazingly twisted and interesting person. And it's okay if you are kinda broken and mended up around the edges. Your people will love you if you are not perfect. Ever.
Now I'm going to be the ass that tells you what worked for me. I started exercising. Not just walking stuff. I went from couch potato to crazy, cross-fit junky FREAK. It really did fix something that was not quite right on the inside. Everyone's different. Just throwin' you a bone. Hope you keep feeling "hope-like".
I comprehend your dead fish. And also hate endlessly hopeful people. The one I kept getting was "just go exercise. You'll feel SO much better."
No. I don't want to leave the couch. Except to go to my bed. Fuck off.
Anywho. Glad to hear the future is stretching out in the unknown in a slightly less numb way.
Hoping you find many more kernels of corn under the refrigerator. Glad to find you returning.
I totally get the corn! I've found my own piece of corn after my dad's death, and it does help you to keep on. Although, more often than not these days, I experience it in reverse. Those small, shriveled, lonely pieces of corn start me laughing, and I end up crying. Not sadness, just crying (and not with laughter). It's hard to explain this to others, and I'm so glad you posted this. Thank you!
I am so glad you're back. And I (oh no, I'm going to say a bullshit word here) hope things continue to improve for you.
Your story could easily be my story. Well, sans-corn. I don't even have corn in my "things got better" saga. Maybe some day I will, as things are kind of always getting better in fits and jolts. And sometimes backslides.
The biggest takeaway I have from dealing with depression for about seven years now is just seeking help when those low points happen. Seek it anonymously online or have those people you can talk to who don't panic when you go to them with heavy stuff. It gets easier to do so with time, and suddenly you may realize you haven't needed to do so in months.
And I don't know if the doctor talked to you about suicidal ideation, but, at least what you wrote about sounds like passive suicidal ideation. It's scary when it happens, but you are so so SO not alone in having thoughts of suicide. If you ever reach that point again, it may be comforting to those you talk to (if they don't have much experience dealing with depression) to be able to confess to the thoughts but clarify that, at this point, they are passive thoughts. That you aren't taking active steps to commit suicide, just fantasizing and hoping it happens. Which is still awful and scary and shitty and horrible. I am so sorry you were there. I am so, so glad you reached out and are moving through.
I am going to comment because, if I were you, I would obsessively read every comment. I have never had depression, so I was always the person suggesting sunrise yoga or someshit. You helped me understand my very best friend in the world more with this post. Thank you.
CORN! SHRIVELED CORN!!!!! I get it.
This is a perfect description and thank you for posting this, I am so glad you found your pc of corn!!!
There is still such a taboo on depression. The fact that you can still make jokes about how miserable it can be, is very hope-like. You will never really know how you've been able to help someone going through the same thing. You're braver and stronger than you know. Remember, once you've hit rock bottom, the only way to go is up. Take your time. I'm sure you'll get your complete self back soon.
There is still such a taboo on depression. The fact that you can still make jokes about how miserable it can be, is very hope-like. You will never really know how you've been able to help someone going through the same thing. You're braver and stronger than you know. Remember, once you've hit rock bottom, the only way to go is up. Take your time. I'm sure you'll get your complete self back soon.
I wanted to say thank you, Allie, for this, and your previous post before you went on hiatus. Not a thank you as someone who has experienced what you've been going through (though I am very glad you are back, and I've already pre-ordered the book).
Rather, this is a thank you as someone who couldn't comprehend what depression is like and went through a majority of the things you describe in the boyfriend role during the course of the most substantive and impactful relationship of my life to date (I'm now early 30s). Reading these two posts continues to be so illuminating. Your initial post and now this one have allowed me to process SO MUCH about what was happening to her and to the relationship in retrospect. I don't mean that to sound selfish, but as you wrote, everyone tries to fix you and can't understand why nothing they do will help. All I knew was that there was a beautiful, wildly intelligent, extremely accomplished girl whom I cared deeply about, and she was hurt, or rather, I came to realize, feeling so numb that ceasing to exist any longer seemed like a really pragmatic way to solve everything. I especially identified with the drawing where you say, "No, see, I don't necessarily want to KILL myself, I just want to become dead somehow." I know those words almost verbatim, and heard them repeatedly in many forms over many months. They're incredibly scary to hear coming out of the mouth of someone you love without a context in which to frame them.
I'm glad you're finding your way out of the fog, and I hope these posts continue to help others. From the perspective of someone who watched someone I loved spiral downward in a very similar fashion, I just wanted to say thank you for making it even marginally relatable and more lucid. I did get to the point where I realized that it was all beyond my ability to help or assist with, but now, thanks to you, I have a much deeper understanding of what it's like "on the inside", so to speak.
Looking forward to the book in October, and more posts if you feel like it. All the best.
Without reading all of the other 1,720 comments, I suggest you related to the corn. There, alone under the refrigerator never being understood, abandoned, and lonely. The corn and you in a symbiotic realization of singularity. I get it. Sometimes, it is the little things that make all of the difference. On the other hand, shriveled corn kernels are extremely hilarious in their own right.
As someone that kinda went into that neutral ''don't give a shit about anything'' phase for a good 3 years, I can honestly say I feel that it's good enough, heartwarming in itself, that the ''shitty little piece of corn'' snapped you out of it.
I wish you all the luck in the world moving forward from there.
Thank you so very much for posting this. It makes me understand in a way I never could have before. I will always remember the fish.
Your example of dead fish was so great. I have tried to explain the same types of things to people with poor results. Now I will refer them here and ask them to pay particularly close attention to the dead fish situation. Thanks for finding ways to express things that are challenging
Allie, thank you for sharing this with us. Mental illness can be a total pain in the ass.
While I don't suffer from depression, I have generalized anxiety disorder. Life sucks when you are walking around in a constant state of panic, worrying about problems that don't exist. I have been taking medication and seeing a therapist since 2008 which have made a huge difference in my life.
No, you can't cure mental illness, but there are ways to manage it to make life tolerable and enjoyable again. You will have your good and bad days, but slowly the good days will outnumber the bad.
Stay strong and keep at it. You will make it. Welcome back!
Hugs, Kate
YOU ARE THE SHIT. Depression sucks and it is awesome that it doesn't feel like forever anymore. We've all missed you.
I'm gonna share this with everyone! It's just soooo...normal - it really does portray the depression cycle as it really is. I think it'll help non-sufferers to understand it better, so thank you :)
Just when I thought you couldn't get more awesome...keep being you, cos you rock! :)
Thank you so much for posting this. I also struggle with depression, and it was really helpful/felt like someone understood me/just good in general. Thank you thank you thank you. Also I'm really glad that you're feeling somewhat better. Fucking corn, woohoo!
Mine was when someone sneezed. At least with the corn there was some amount of privacy...I was in public laughing like a mental patient because someone sneezed.
So glad you're feeling better!
Thank you. I am amazed by how well you can describe what I went through. (and probably will go through again in time. Sigh)
I wish I had a corn moment. I am jealous of yours. I do have something similar, though not as hilarious: I am fortunate to have found treatment that works for me, and the first day it fully kicked in, I walked around looking at everyone and thinking "No wonder you're so happy and willing to do things and productive -- you feel like *this* all the time!"
I wish you the best in your life and healing. Sometimes it really is only the thought that life might not be hopeless bullshit that keeps us going.
YES. THIS EXACTLY. For 15 years, that was my hell. I didn't exactly want to kill myself, but I just didn't want to be alive. Watching people with feelings was completely baffling to me. They didn't compute for me... at all.
I somehow fell into a 12-step program 3 years ago, and the fog began to lift. I don't know how it worked, or why, but it worked for me. I found my shriveled piece of corn in a room with a bunch of people as crazy as me... and I've never been happier. So glad you found your corn, and you're back. I sure missed your posts. :)
You hit the nail right on the head. Parts of this made me laugh, but I could relate to all of it. All I can say is that things do (or can anyway) get better. I dealt with feelings very much like what you're describing for over 15 years and I feel great these days. Just keep putting one foot ahead of the other and it'll come together eventually.
While I have never felt suicidal (and can't even begin to imagine what that's like), I can relate to so much of your post. I have a mild but persistent form of depression that has been bothering me for maybe about a year, though it's only recently that I've begun to realize it. The description of boredom, nothingness, and pointlessness is perfect. I used to have so many hobbies and I'm not interested in any of them anymore. I'm trying to force myself to be more active to make myself feel better, but it certainly isn't easy. And overly-optimistic people, as well-intentioned as they are, seldom help (sorry guys :().
I hope things get better for you, Allie. You are a wonderful person and don't deserve this. My best advice would be to try what I'm doing: attempting to force myself to look at things in different ways. I'm trying to train my brain to see meaning in more things. To enjoy my hobbies, or have interest in finding new ones. To be happy. It all does seem pointless at times, but if you can make yourself happy, who cares? I'd rather enjoy the inane than be bored and lonely (which I am a lot of the time, despite the fact that I lead a relatively busy life).
It's good to hear from you again, Allie. Thank you so much for explaining this so well, and I wish you all the luck in the world. ♥
P.S. Depressed or not, inanimate objects are just funny sometimes.
Thank you for writing this. Thank you for helping me to voice my feelings. Thank you.
A friend actually embroidered me the image and "I Can Do Anything" from your first depression post because of what I was (am?) dealing with in my own life. Thank you for being bold enough to share with us.
This. Exactly this. Thank you for explaining it so clearly.
I remember, after being on lexapro for about a month, suddenly smiling for the first time in probably a year. ACTUALLY smiling. No big huge reason for it, no need to force it for the sake of anyone else in the room because I was by myself. I smiled and my face felt weird. It also felt good. :)
This should make me feel less alone, but it makes me feel more alone. It's ok. I have a doctor's appt in about 45 minutes
Like many commentators before me today, I can relate incredibly well to what you are going through. Hopefully you, boyfriend and dogs all come through this well. I personally never had the resources to seek professional help, but I found my wrinkled corn moment in SCUBA. It's been an obsession ever since and I live a pretty normal life these days. Whether or not you want to feel the love, the interwebz hearts you.
I'm just so glad you are alive. And you apparently give a crap enough about us giving a crap AT you (NOTE: NOT crapping ON you) that you wrote a post to prove it. And to try to explain what you've been through, which can't have been easy. Thank you for that. We will care about you even when you can't. Take care of you.
I am so happy you are back! I am sorry that you are going through all this depression stuff, I know how it feels too. It's like you are able to describe exactly how it all goes down inside. No one understands it if they have never felt it, or unfelt it! Lots of love to you and your life journey. Keep up the lovely stories and drawings, they are the BEST!!! Love you!!!
I missed all your thoughts and posts in all its glory. Welcome back. Smiles all around.
"I just want to become dead somehow"
This is exactly how I felt! People seemed so concerned, it mystified me; I thought I was wasting everybody's time. I still kind of feel that way, but I'm not properly better yet...
And oh god yes, the disdain the happy, optimistic people. Smug, condescending bastards.
I'm glad you're on the up now, and keep telling people how this shit feels, cos if I have to deal with one more bubbly idiot that thinks I'm just a bit sad, I may have to start decorating my walls with heads on spikes.
I'm in a lot of pain right now, laid out in bed because I can't move, but I just laughed hysterically at the piece of corn part of this and couldn't stop, even though it felt like I would die and my ribs rip open to expose all the agony inside my chest.
But I'm smiling now and I wasn't before. I think I get what you meant, a little. <3
Thanks... this is brilliant.
This is perfect. You did it just perfect. I obviously can't speak for everyone who has lived through catastrophic depression, but I really feel like you nailed that sucker. Hit it right on the head. On the nose. Whatever! YOU DID IT and I am so thankful. You boil down the millions of words that churn up when I consider all of this to the witty essence, and it is beautiful. Thank you.
I hope you are getting closer to full remission, and just want you to know that I'm glad you're in this world, regardless of your output or how widely you share it. It really is awesome stuff, though.
Been there. Done that. Depression sucks. I'm sorry you've had to go through it. I'm glad you're feeling well enough to draw. I've missed you and been concerned about you. Yeah, I'm a total stranger, but it's true.
You have explained "Void" with terrifying clarity and simple artistry. What resonates most with me it's that you looked for help because you didn't to see them crying for you. That was my case too. Congratulations.
That was the most coherent thing I've ever read about depression. I wish I could remember my corn moment, because it seems like it would be a good thing to keep in your pocket to bring out to show people. Instead, I just say, I don't know, it just felt different.
Welcome back—we missed you!!!!
I think this should be a handout to medical professionals, just like your revised pain scale.
Also, "finding the corn" will now be part of our household lexicon, since we all deal with clinical depression.
Hilarious and awesome and oh so true. I don't remember exactly what random thing I started laughing at, but I had a similar experience. Rock on little piece of corn, and welcome back Allie. :) We missed you.
This is the second post of yours that I have read...the first being the teaser. And, you made me laugh and cry all at the same time. And I hope that it continues to be corn on the floor for you!
That was an excellent post- you get your points across so well, and it's great to read more of your work. xxxx
Sweetie, I've been going through this off and on for twenty-three years.
It does get better. Medication helps (though it can take some trial
and error to find the right one). People help too, even if they can't
understand and you want to kill them with a fork.
If you feel like talking about it with someone who's been there,
let me know.
Wow, how eye-opening. Not about you, but depression in general. Thanks for sharing, I bet more people who have never suffered from depression might understand how it feels a little more. Or.. how it doesn't feel... I can't imagine how much it took for you to actually blog about your experiences in this and post it for everyone to read. You're brave!!
:) Glad to have you back.
I...I don't want to tell you something uplifty. I don't feel like that would appeal to you. I don't think it appeals to me either. And that's usually my thing. I'm really, really good at the whole "talk-to-me-about-your-feelings-and-I-will-make-you-cry-and-it'll-be-okay" thing. I'm so good at it, I've had entire relationships where all we did was deal with their shit. (You're welcome, assholes of my past, btw.)
But that doesn't work here, now does it? No, ma'am, it does not.
Instead, here's a kickass video of an oddly attractive Italian man from the 70's singing gibberish English sounding words. It's so amazing. It's my ringtone now. Maybe you've heard it. If not, you're welcome.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FcUi6UEQh00
(I'm watching it again now. GAH I wanna sex that man. It's hard to explain. But the sex...I would give it to him.)
Thank you. Thank you. Thank you.
Cloorn IS funny (the word!).
I've touched depression before, but I didn't fall completely into it. Also my depression was actually linked to something. So it was just deep, constant sadness where most other emotions were hard or painful to feel. So when I meet someone who is depressed in that they're sad, I know what it's like. But when I meet someone who is traveling a wasteland of nothingness, I don't get it as well. This is an excellent description of that and I really appreciate it.
It's most interesting to me because generally I'm against drugs to treat depression (I'm also a...eh, well I've graduated so I'm not a student of psychology anymore, but I'm not licensed either, what do you call that? so it isn't something I decided idly) but in large part that's because I identify depression in a DSM-feeling sad way, not in a nothingness way. And usually not in a, "I don't know why this is happening to me" way. Like, maybe you don't know why but there is a reason and counseling will bring that out? But I don't know if that is the case for you.
So, again, I appreciate this post in giving me something to consider.
Well, that pretty much broke my heart for the day week month....
Yes. This. Exactly.
So glad that you are back. Brilliant post.
Allie, I've been dealing with a friend who told me he wanted to kill himself. I haven't been able to understand why he won't listen to me and just feels so awful about himself all the time. But this time- THIS time, I finally get it. This comic may not be exactly how he feels, but it puts it in a perspective that i hadn't considered before. I was depressed, and didn't even realize this is how depression feels. But this post made me realize how I'm not helping by trying to force him to be happy, and that I should just be there as a friend, not bother him senselessly. Thank you.
I'd cry at how accurate this is if I had feelings. But thank you.
I just got home from my last college final and I had this waiting for me! It's like I'm being rewarded by the internetz! This was so great. I laughed, I cried. You are so good at what you do. I hope you feel better soon, Allie! If not... well, I'll come over and hide tiny morsels of shriveled vegetables under all of your appliances. :) <3
Something very similar happened to me about 4 years ago. And then I found your blog. It's no piece of corn under the fridge, but it got me to laugh again.
<3
You're an incredible genius of an artist. Keep creating, not for yourself but for the rest of society.
I appreciate that you are brave enough to post these blogs. I hope that you continue your journey towards less bullshit.
Thank you for making this, Allie. It's beautiful. Thank you for existing. :')
You have made a 31 year old male cry at work. It might be ok. I am still looking for that florn.
Thank you.
I know exactly how funny the piece of corn is. Thanks for sharing that we're not alone!
Thank you for your honesty. When going through my stuff, I blindly followed the positivity people and it made me more miserable because no matter what I did, I still felt nothing and it (I) was such a huge disappointment to them.
I have since learned to just have the feelings (or nonfeelings) and just let 'em happen. Doesn't matter if others approve. Doesn't matter if it alienates. What matters is that I (me, myself) process it for me.
So again, thanks for your honesty and putting it out there.
I LOVE YOU ALLIE
thank you for sharing your truth. having lived this, I know a little bit about what you have been going through. When people ask me about depression I suggest they read your last post and now this one too.
Floor Corn. Cloorn. I'm going to use that. Or Floorn, depending.
Next time I drop a piece of corn on the floor I'm going to tell the dog "come get this cloorn!"
Life is not meaningless when there is absurdity to enjoy.
*hugs*
Thank you for explaining so well, and for choosing to live. I've experienced depression but was extremely lucky to have a doctor who recognized it and got me on happy meds right away. I've lost friends to depression and could never fully comprehend why they chose death, but I get it now. Thank you. I wish you well, and I totally get your hilarious corn.
You are actually the best, dead fish and all. Everything might (or might not) be bullshit but the stuff you create is so much truth. Welcome back to the internets! We love you <3
Wanted to say that I loved the post. You did a great job explaining how it 'feels' to not really feel anything. After being diagnosed with epilepsy I spent a few years switching between meds for depression, anxiety and even bipolar disorder but nothing seemed to help. If anything I just felt more detached from everything.
Then one day I had a long hard think about man nipples. It was a cold day and mine were quite pointed, but at the same time completely pointless and I started laughing. Thought about Ed Geins and the belt he made out of nipples, which made me try and figure out what I could turn mine into. Buttons? Earrings? Maybe some strange eye patch?
Either way that was my piece of corn. Being able to find humor in something so random. It was a nice feeling.
I hope things continue to get better for you and you continue posting. Also if you're ever bored you can look up my FB and check out pictures of me walking around a production set showing off my nipples.
Cheers!
I needed this. Today.
Yes. I've been there. A lot. It is ugly. I am lucky(?) that I have lots of friends who have been there, too, and they (and I) know that it is an unsolvable mystery. Thankfully they are happy to just sit with me and say nothing when I am in a funk, and I do the same for them. Words suck when you are depressed, but knowing that someone will come sit with you anyway... now that is weirdly magical.
Hang in there, and welcome back.
Priceless, as always, Allie! Glad to learn that you are starting to escape the numbness of depression.
good news! You have totally discovered your million dollar idea: DEAD FISH FINGER PUPPETS!!! :D
Wow- I agree with others that this is one of the best explanations of depression I've ever read and I'm so glad you shared it. And I'm sorry things were sucky for so long. I hope your fish are better now.
Allie, you are brilliant! Thank you for this. I've been there, felt (or not) that, got the meds. Your cartoons are divine. I hope you will think about publishing a graphic novel about your battle with depression. I would buy it - hell, I would buy 20!
Thank you!
Cheers from Brandy at http://brandysbustlings.blogspot.ca/
I liked this.
Beautiful post. Just beautiful.
For the past couple years, I've been ping-ponging between the oppressively irritated anger face stage and the random crying-fit stage with just a smattering of joyless laughter punched through for pizzazz, or whatever. It's hard, soo so hard, but better (I guess? Maybe??) than just wanting to press the eject button on my life. I don't know. It's difficult to tell.
Also, I laughed and cried while reading about the corn. So thanks for the corn story because LAUGHTER. YAY. And now I'll just go back to not laughing and not being able to explain why I don't want to go to a music festival to be bored and disconnect for six hours, that I'd much rather lie in my bed with dirty clothes, clean clothes, school books and my laptop, staring into oblivion and not writing the paper that will save my semester average.
I had to stop reading about halfway through because I'm in the student lounge and I started crying. I'm in that stage of depression where I'm finally getting emotions again, but they're mostly nausea and chest pain and crying and I just related to what I read so much that I want to hug you and everyone else who has to go through this crap which is unfortunately a lot of people in this world. But with how many people experience it, so few actually talk about it and if we did maybe we wouldn't feel as alone...my point is, thank you for sharing your story and making me feel less alone. I'm sure others felt the same reading this.
Sounds like you still have a ways to go but seems like you are on the right path to doing whatever it is that's right for you to start feeling better. It was great to hear from you yesterday and today and hope you can keep moving forward. We've missed you! Don't ever stop looking for corn!
I am so, so happy you are back! My piece of corn was a developmentally challenged bird trying to peck a tree. I laughed forEVER and scared many people. This is as familiar to me as rain. It gets better, I promise. Going to the zoo helps.
I'm really sorry your fish died. My fish died, too, and no one noticed either. Not that it makes you feel any better. But I am sorry about your fish.
Personally, I've never been quite that far down the rabbit hole. I've stared over the edge into the abyss more than a few times but I always manage to hang on to a few things in my life to keep me from falling over.
I'm glad you saw the corn.
Good to know I am not alone. Glad you found some corn.
So how did the corn get there? If I put the corn there will it still work?
i'm sorry your fish are dead. Wow. Those fish are D-E-A-D. That sucks, man!
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Thank you. As others have stated, EXACTLY! Life even made it harder as both my wife and I were living with this, both hating, both hiding, both sitting on the couch full of dirty (and clean) laundry.
It's been a rough few years recovering/dealing/living, made even worse when we lost all three of our pets inside 9 months.
We're better now. We each found our kernel of corn, and each day we can get out of bed again without hiding under the covers.
This is the most poignantly accurate description of the experience of depression I have ever seen. Well done for being so brave. And thank you X
I wish I had been there when you spotted the corn.
The fish analogy is so brilliant. It's too bad that you had such a hard time finding the people who could relate to your "feeling nothing"-ness. It feels fairly common around me (well, that's kind of alarming, heh). You know, to me, the hopeful happy cheerleader type people are quite annoying and unrelatable even when I'm not depressed. They seem to always turn things around to be about them and not you or your struggle.
I'm so glad you made this post. I think it will make many people laugh and cry, just like it did to me.
This was horrible.
so well done
Hi Allie,
So good to see you. You were my piece of corn today!
I just went from sobbing to laughing and crying uncontrollably all at once. You are my piece of corn! I am so glad someone can explain these feelings - I can't! Will direct my boyf here!! xxx
I know things have sucked for you lately, but (not to be one of those people forcing hope down your throat) I know a lot of us have been genuinely concerned for you, and this post has 1,845 comments as I write this - and that's just within a few hours of posting it!
If that doesn't say we care about you, what does?
I'm sorry your fish are/were dead, and happy that they might be less dead soon.
Happy to hear from you. You're right. It felt wrong to laugh at some parts, but I did. Hope that's ok.
And one last thing, and just because this is how I would feel if I were in your situation. Don't get too stressed out by everyone saying "welcome back!". We're just happy to hear from you, but you don't owe anyone anything in terms of posting. You don't need to be "back" if you don't want to.
Obviously I don't need to tell you that you totally just nailed how depression feels. But you did. In so many better words and pictures than I possibly could've. And I have experienced the corn part and my husband just looks at me like I'm crazy. Which I probably am. But fuck it, at least I'm FEEEEEEELING again!!!
So happy you're back, for however long you are back for. And I'm sorry about your dead fish. :)
Awesome posts. I hope i get to see that piece of corn soon.
I'm going to actually peel myself off of my couch now. Brush my teeth, and try to find my piece of corn.
Thanks for saying the things I never could.
You have an amazing ability to describe the undescribable. I am totally familiar with the "corn phenomenon," though it wasn't corn for me. And gah! That whole thing about trying to explain depression to others... yeah, super frustrating. Thank you for this post, I hope it will help others explain things to their friends/family if they hit that place in their lives.
Good luck in not-sure-if-bullshit-land!
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You are the most perfect person. Soooooo glad that you are back and doing well. This comic is perfect beyond words. Nobody gets depression unless they have been through it and this is so dead on it actually hurts a little to read it. But in a good way. Thank you!
Already a sea of comments to sift through. So crazy. Shows that at the very least you have thousands of people you've never met that care about you.
I hope you're proud of what you've done here. I don't think anyone's so effectively and elegantly explained and raised awareness for depression. Your blog has been fantastic to read through and you've stuck to writing top quality posts.
Glad to hear you've experienced some form of happiness. Sort of. It's a start. Hopefully. You deserve it at any rate. Proper happiness that is, whether or not what you were on about wa-you get the idea.
I missed you alot
It's good to have you back! Just wanted to say that your art seems to have taken a level in badass. Also I really appreciate an emotion called "crying" instead of "sadness": my girlfriend does this all the time and it didn't make much sense to me, but this post helps. She's seeing a therapist, has been on the medication, and yeah...it's been about how you described.
And the corn thing makes sense to me, actually (might be an ADD thing). Sometimes when I'm driving a long way, I'll see a tree or something and get weirded out by thinking about how it's got a whole life just sitting on that random blob on the side of the highway...I almost feel guilty, like I should pay more attention to it or something.
So I feel like the piece of corn might have caught your attention because you were feeling like your life was empty but the corn is still chilling under the fridge no matter what, and it's kinda more real than bowling. I apologize for making that sound dramatic because that's not it at all. I can't even say "fridge corn don't give a fuck" because it doesn't even have anything to not give a fuck with. To me, anyway, that is somehow reassuring.
But I think my experience was totally different: my "depression" was entirely from guilt from undiagnosed ADD (which turned out to be legit), so a huge bad feeling rather than no feeling at all, and that's much easier to deal with.
And seriously, you outdid yourself with this post's art!
Yes, QFMT. Well, almost my truth... I'm still looking for my corn. :hug:
I don't know why, but it surprised me how familiar this sounded. I guess because I've never really heard anyone describe what depression feels like. I'd been a little depressed since I was in middle school, but it really hit me hard a couple years ago when I went to grad school. I never told my parents what was going on until I had to tell them that I was dropping out of school. I pretended that everything was normal when they came to visit. During the worst of it I slept about 14 hours a day and cried the rest of the time. Then, like you described, I just stopped caring. I stopped going to class and after a month, some of my fellow grad students came and dragged me out of my apartment. I think the part of this post that surprised me the most was your drawing where you're explaining that you don't want to kill yourself, you just want to be dead somehow. I definitely had thoughts like that. Wishing that a car would run me over as I crossed the street or that a tornado would destroy my apartment building and impale me with something. I developed quite the imagination for death during that time. I'm much better now and I hope that things continue to go up for you, too.
Thank you, so very much.
Now to see a doc about this ppd.
I agree - the dead fish metaphor is absolutely brilliant and dead on.
Thank you.
Also, "should" is always a bad word when referring to our behaviour...
you should do yoga
you should paint your house corn yellow
you should go find someone else to make feel guilty for not wanting to do all those stupid things that you are suggesting I do
Are you and Duncan still engaged?
This is what I desperately needed today (well, other than a shower, because even though I'm not dead yet I'm sort of starting to smell that way). I really, really want to buy the book.
May I steal that last graphic to use as my desktop wallpaper?
Well, a million people have just told you you wrote what they felt so I guess I'm writing this for me.
I remember sitting at coffee with friends and feeling like they were on the other side of a non-existent fish tank. I could see them, I could hear their words burbling by, but I couldn't feel anything.
Thanks for sharing how it felt for you.
I have an appointment with a therapist Monday and tempted to print out a few pictures as "visual aids" because I don't know how else to explain how isolating depression feels. Especially when everyone else is all about "Look PUPPIES! AREN'T PUPPIES NICE? WHY DON'T YOU SMILE?" Or the advice of "Just be in the moment and life will be full of meaning". So as I wander that bleak desolate landscape, I actually don't feel so alone. Thank you for posting this.
You are awesome and have such a way with words. I like to pretend that we've all been through this before, but i know there's only a "lucky" subset of us who get to not feel this way and you described it perfectly (even though my corn is normally a tuft of cat hair or that random thread hanging from an otherwise perfect towel).
Super glad you're back!!
Also, maybe everything isn't hopeless bullshit would make a great shirt and/or poster. Just say'n :)
It took a lot of guts to post that. As someone who has gone through the same thing, I really respect your ability to be open about it and explain your experience. I love your blog and hope that things continue to get better, even if they mean laughing at the most nonsensical things :)
Allie, you don't know me, and I only know you through blog posts and Twitter. But I love you. And I'll always laugh at the corn with you.
I have been checking your whereabouts for the past few months, just seeing if you were still out there.
You taught me a lot in this. I don't think I understood as much about depression from anything else as I have from this. Thank you.
And yes, I laughed. You on the couch frowning at yoga girl was awesome. I am sure I have been frowned at in that way, but *now* I know *why.* So again, thank you, and so glad to see you again!
I have to say that I cried about how perfectly you captured depression. The trying to fake emotions, the dead fish, the corn. Oh the corn. I've had my corn. Hugs and more hugs. I am here for you, we are here for you. And some of us do understand the dead fish (but still don't know how to fix them.)
I have a big bag of dry corn in my pantry that I bought for wild turkeys and squirrels, and maybe deer.
I haven't felt like putting it out for them though, so mice in my house are eating it. Well, I think I just
killed the last mouse, so now I live with a chewed-up bag of corn.
I like you.
I have a big bag of dry corn in my pantry that I bought for wild turkeys and squirrels, and maybe deer.
I haven't felt like putting it out for them though, so mice in my house are eating it. Well, I think I just
killed the last mouse, so now I live with a chewed-up bag of corn.
I like you.
I get the feels/nonfeels. I'm glad you found your corn.
Well, Ms. Allie... you nailed it.
At least from my perspective.
Now, whenever my words are liquid shit and my heart is the black crusty stuff you scrape off of the burner pans on your cookstove, and someone tries to sprinkle unicorn dandruff on me in an effort to make me do their happy-dance, I can direct them to your very brave depiction.
And if they make a funny face at me, at least I have liquid shit to spew.
Also, it's nice to know I'm not the only lump of flesh experiencing nothingness.
Thank you.
YOU'RE BACK! And I don't know if I've ever seen so many comments on a blog... haha! :)
The fish explained my depression better than anything I've ever read before. My meds have stopped being helpful so it's back to the drawing board for my doctors and me, which is always a good time.
A blank, boring wasteland is a honest description, hope I find my piece of corn soon too.
You created something beautiful and insightful and funny, and it was news on the Internet -- which is where we all live now -- that you were back. I hope that's something to you.
My experience hasn't been quite like yours, but some of this did resonate.
This is downright poetic. I've never seen a better description of what it's like to feel this way. This should be printed out in comic book form and made available at every high school and college campus -- so students can identify this state in themselves and each other. This could honestly save lives.
Thank you so, so much for posting this.
This all sounds horribly familiar. I was unable to do myself an injury because it took me too long to decide what knife to use, and I lost interest or something. Anyway, indecision was the correct decision in that case. As far as uncontrollable laughing goes, for me it was uncontrollably weeping when I heard Men Without Hats' "Safety Dance". Completely irrational, but the walls came down.
I'm not the only one (obviously) who is very glad to see you are back. We're here feeling it all along with you. Good luck.
Thank you. That is all. Thank you.
think I'm gonna stop being depressed now because the only thing more boring than life with depression is being another sad piece of shit who can't wait to tell everyone how much they relate to this blog entry
Thank you.
That was an amazingly insightful and enlightening description of what depression is and how it works from an amazing woman. I've seen many explanations of depression, both clinical and first-hand accounts, but never anything as clear as yours. Glad you're back and I wish you all the best.
It actually kind of scares me just how much I understand this. I'm glad that you're finding your way.
Allie you are amazing! I've been dealing with bad depression for a few years now. The first time I went through and read your blog I laughed more than I had since being a child. You are my piece of corn. And I love you for that :) glad that you are back writing again and I hope that you continue feeling better, because depression is a big asshole; and it is not fun being swallowed by an asshole!
I don't know you, Allie, but I'm glad you're back. You described depression exactly the way I felt it too. You have a wonderful way with words, and your illustrations really add to your writing.
I really hope that people who are not depressed but who interact with those who are will read this and get a little understanding of what it's really like. This is so true.
Thank you for writing it.
It's been years but that kind of brought it all back (not that it ever really left). Particularly the wanting to die but not wanting to kill myself. Never considered killing myself at all, but really thought it all be so much easier if I'd was hit by a train or something. My mother did not take that very well frantically tried to minimize to her (because why was she so upset, it really wasn't that big a deal). And oh the rediscovory of crying. Not mild tears of my former teen disappoint, but Claire Danes face melting crying jags that could go on until I'd cried myself to sleep like a preschooler. Since going off of medication in the mid 00s I've only had one of these breakdowns and it scared the ever living crap out of my roommate. Of course I'd been within spitting distance of having it in front of someone I'd met 4 hours before, so I'm okay with that.
Your writing and explanation of what severe depression is like is amazingly accurate - better than I could ever describe. I want to send people here and say "see - this is what it's like." I especially liked the fish example - so true
Hey Allie,
First of all, I'm super glad you're back, your posts have always brightened my days.
Second of all, I'm doubly glad your back with this post. This has been something I've been struggling with for a long time, in different degrees. At any rate, I hope that things stop seeming like bullshit for us both. Thanks for being awesome!
Though courage is probably just more hopeless/weird bullshit, it takes real courage to speak this openly about mental health issues. It may not matter to you in your current state, or even ever, but you clearly have struck a chord with many people and, whether it matters to you or not, have made them feel less alone. I hope you arrive at a point soon that will allow you to appreciate that and maybe even see it as, dare to dream, a good thing worthy of happiness!
It's weirdly comforting to not be the only one going through this.
Something similar happened for me... only it wasn't a shriveled piece of lonely corn, it was an overcooked wrinkly hot dog. I must have laughed at it for a good solid thirty minutes.
Allie,
I have never read such an accurate description of depression. I'm impressed that you've managed to drag yourself free of the stagnant cesspit of unbearable nothingness to produce these posts. As a fellow creative/ depressive, I know that it's such an exhausting process. Thanks.
Glad you aren't dead. So very, very glad. I hope that's not too much pressure for you.
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